nishinoya November 6, 2023 4:39 pm

Does this still count as BL? Definitely homoerotic but do we really call this BL? Regardless, I honestly really still like this manhwa. I hate stories with toxic couples and r*pe but this is just different. Maybe it's the fact that the toxicity and the SA isn't really portrayed romantically. Do we even consider this as toxic? It's crime scene after crime scene with loads of mental illness. Whenever bum gets hopeful, we immediately know it's because he has his traumas and he is mentally ill. It's not because he's genuinely in love with Sangwoo. And for Sangwoo, he only became ""romantic"" near the end and whenever he does something ""nice"" for bum, there's this looming certainty that something terrible will be done after. The atmosphere of the scenes are definitely set up as some sort of dark psychological thing, unlike most toxic BL where the color palette is very light and basic. There's not a single panel in this manhwa that gives the slightest air of romance and for me, it makes it so great. The ending for Sangwoo is so hilariously poetic too. The guy who is so mentally messed up that he became a serial killer ended up dying because of a hospitalized old lady that got annoyed with him?? Top notch comedy, I tell you. For bum, on the other hand, although I hoped back then that he ended up recovering and living a good life, I think dying is the best option for him. I truly believe that no amount of therapy could ever make him recover, especially since he would've had to pretend that he wasn't an accomplice for some of the killings and that he did not have any feelings, albeit messed up one's, towards Sangwoo.

Despite any opinions that you may have on the nature of Sangwoo and bum's relationship, one thing we can all agree on is that this is a psychological thriller first before it is a "BL". And regardless of how controversial the themes of this story is, it had already made its mark as one of the best manhwas in the genre. Koogi comeback when

    nishinoya November 6, 2023 4:51 pm

    Let me just add: the scene where Sangwoo calls out his mom while he was having sex with Yoonbum? That will forever be etched on my mind. The gasp (and the laugh that followed) I let out was undeniably e loud. Sangwoo is such a well-written villain. His mom(!) is even a bigger villain, making multiple men suffer and multiple women die because of her messed up brain. If she got therapy (or got admitted to a psych ward) early on, many victims would not have been victims. Unfortunately for Yoonbum, his problems don't start with Sangwoo (or his mom), so he'd still have a tragic story.

    Cristy November 16, 2023 3:19 pm

    I don't think it counts as bl, the writer planned it to be a psychological horror and also said that Sang Woo is straight.

nishinoya November 4, 2023 9:14 am

These side chapters are making me forget how I hated the sunbae hahahaha and as usual, ho-in is still one of the greenest flags in BL

nishinoya November 4, 2023 6:53 am

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that no sexual assault was involved in the girl's punishment. Genres like this tend to treat women as sexual objects but it actually did not go that route.

    Rue November 5, 2023 7:53 am

    Genre like this tend to use everyone as sexual object if their sins is about sexual stuff tbh. Like for example (tw : gore) theres another revenge story where the target is a dude who sexually harrased their coworker i think? And his punishment is getting a big stick with many thorns forcefully shoves into his ass

    nishinoya November 5, 2023 8:11 am
    Genre like this tend to use everyone as sexual object if their sins is about sexual stuff tbh. Like for example (tw : gore) theres another revenge story where the target is a dude who sexually harrased their co... Rue

    What I'm pertaining to is mainly about how many manga like this only have women for fan service. I can't remember the title but a manga that I've read explicitly depicted a woman getting r*ped (she's a victim in this case) and another character (a male antagonist) also gets r*ped as a form of punishment but for his scene, iirc, the r*pe was not shown explicitly. Another manga is the one where he reincarnated and he basically turned the one he's getting revenge on as his sex slave. It's rare for revenge manga to treat women as actual characters tbh. For this manga, I was a bit nervous because even though the MC is a woman, some earlier scenes were raising some red flags (the scene where she gave the principal a BJ).

    Rue November 5, 2023 8:18 am
    What I'm pertaining to is mainly about how many manga like this only have women for fan service. I can't remember the title but a manga that I've read explicitly depicted a woman getting r*ped (she's a victim i... nishinoya

    Yeah i kinda agree with statement, unfortunely, that just the way it is for a revenge story where they want to make it more shock value rather than the good ol massacred. Also, do you remember any of the story of what you just mentioned? I tend to dig revenge story from time to time (⌒▽⌒)

    nishinoya November 5, 2023 1:08 pm
    Yeah i kinda agree with statement, unfortunely, that just the way it is for a revenge story where they want to make it more shock value rather than the good ol massacred. Also, do you remember any of the story ... Rue

    I can't remember the name of them unfortunately :( one of them is juujika rokunin, I think? Most of them have long-ass titles lmaoo another one which updates rarely is called Brutal–this one I highly recommend.

    Rue November 5, 2023 5:37 pm
    I can't remember the name of them unfortunately :( one of them is juujika rokunin, I think? Most of them have long-ass titles lmaoo another one which updates rarely is called Brutal–this one I highly recommen... nishinoya

    Thank you sm

    Randomfujoshi November 6, 2023 4:57 am
    Genre like this tend to use everyone as sexual object if their sins is about sexual stuff tbh. Like for example (tw : gore) theres another revenge story where the target is a dude who sexually harrased their co... Rue

    Yooo i think i read something similar, like this guy is a psycho, but he only kills bad people tho, but i forgot the title ┗( T﹏T )┛

    Randomfujoshi November 6, 2023 5:03 am
    Genre like this tend to use everyone as sexual object if their sins is about sexual stuff tbh. Like for example (tw : gore) theres another revenge story where the target is a dude who sexually harrased their co... Rue

    Nvm, i found, i remember saving it lol. It's called "brutal: satsujin kansatsukan no kokuhaku" very nice manga, kinda similar to Funouhan(impossibility defense) highly recommend those two (▰˘◡˘▰)

nishinoya October 30, 2023 5:57 am

I don't know how to feel. It's obvious that he's regretting what he did but with how things are being shown, it feels like the rape is just going to be portrayed as him "being insensitive and rough and forceful" instead of what it actually was: rape. Even on the side of the MC, I don't think he's ever going to acknowledge what was actually done to him. If I recall it properly, he even apologized to the rich guy during the end of s1. I guess that's just the problem with the BL genre. Rape is never called what it is unless the person doing the rape is not the ML. If it's the ML doing it, he's just "treating him roughly and terribly".

nishinoya October 30, 2023 5:29 am

Ngl I got jumpscared didn't expect my worlds to collide like that

nishinoya October 27, 2023 5:32 pm

Finally caught up to season 2 and I don't know how to feel.

nishinoya October 27, 2023 5:18 pm

Ngl I was happy with the ending of s1. It felt like an ending. And then we have a s2. Looks like the Endgame couple from s1 are going to break up because they grew apart. Alexa play you're losing me by Taylor Swift

nishinoya October 26, 2023 11:06 am

So they totally glossed over the rape??? Wasn't even addressed??? The guy didn't even express any regrets about raping the other guy??? If the point was to show him trying to push the guy away by being rude and cold, they could've done that without the rape. It just felt off after that chapter honestly I just kept reading to see what happens with the friend (spoiler: the thing with him was not really resolved)

    nishinoya October 26, 2023 11:11 am

    Also, side note : the seme was going on about how he didn't want to "taint" the uke's purity??? Boy you raped him. You basically desecrated his innocence are you fucking kidding me rn???

nishinoya October 24, 2023 3:41 pm

Why are the good ones always rarely updating I read this all in one go and I saw the upload dates... It's been 8 years apparently and one of the main characters only just recently realized his feelings. Here is to another 8 years for the other guy to fall in love and another 8 years for them to get together ig

nishinoya October 22, 2023 6:29 pm

Ok so I know dicks in smut BL are ridiculously large but when I saw one of the featured images showing a freaking uncensored dick that looks like it's about the size of a hydro flask??? I just had to skip ijbol

    blockheart October 24, 2023 1:00 am

    Girl read it, you're missing out

    nishinoya October 24, 2023 5:43 am
    Girl read it, you're missing out blockheart

    After I've gathered my strength I need to prepare my mind for uncensored dicks

    WhyRed October 27, 2023 10:23 pm
    Girl read it, you're missing out blockheart

    when the dick's big enough to hang out of the comic panel i dont think she's missin nothing

    blockheart October 28, 2023 11:02 am
    when the dick's big enough to hang out of the comic panel i dont think she's missin nothing WhyRed

    Personally, despite the smut taking half of the manhwa itself, I enjoy this because of the dynamics and Norman as a character lmaooo. So yeah op could just skip the smut bc it's not like you haven't seen the smut in other works b4

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