Yes this is really messed up but has no one read Giwons character, bro probably doesn’t understand why this is so morally wrong, hell he had to be taught most everything. He’s leader because he could literally beat everyone’s ass but his brain isn’t all there.
My theory is the guy in pink or someone else is manipulating Giwon from behind the scenes to thinking this is the only way. Giwon hasn’t been all there since the beginning and I don’t mean insane I mean literally in his brain, clearly something else is going on. But I agree this is highly fucked up but at least wait before yall bring out your pitchforks (that’s what the townsfolk did and they are all just as bad because they voted for it and he clearly blamed himself and hurt himself because of it)
The tips were horrendous “A dom should never make a sub use his safe word, only in early relationship.” No? That’s for the entire relationship, I also didn’t like how he wasn’t ready for sex but the son didn’t clarify what they were doing before hand when they met ON A LITERAL DATING SITE.
The fact the sub felt guilty for using a safe word but wasn’t reassured he should use it whenever he feels uncomfy or pushed past boundaries irked me, all the dom said was in short terms “you are so interesting I wanna be your partner.”
Idk at least the dom wasn’t completely terrible and obeyed his safe word and noticed he was going to far with his “punishment” and stopped.
I was just abt to comment this, like some people do plays where no doesn't mean stop so a safe word is discussed to signal a stop, it's not that deep and the ML being like "omg I fucked up I'm a horrible person" and feeling bad cuz "safe words signal a bad dom" is sooooooo fucking dumb of the author to do. A safe word can also just mean wait, after it's used the person can clarify what they are comfortable with and in the sex scene the MC used the safe word because the ML was moving at a faster pace than what he was comfortable with. I don't get why the ML was reacting like he said "I hate you" or sum like mans just wanted you to slow down it's not a personal hit. Why is it the MC's job to console him or apologize for using a safe word they already discussed?? It's also just a rlly unhealthy idea for the author to not even address it later with some clarification that it's okay to use safe words and encouraged if you want to, like I can just see the author's own opinions abt safe words coming through and it's not cute
(this, uh, got a little long... ^^;)
while i do agree that the explanation for safe words is absolutely misguided, speaking only on the ML's reaction - and clearly there's already that societal idea of safe word=bad beyond early relationship (which we can honestly argue they're still in) - i personally interpreted his reaction to be related to his past and the idea that his Dom instincts hurt someone again, and most particularly that they hurt someone he cared for. which, considering his past experiences, he'd never had before. not to mention his parents' handling of the situation was abysmal and only reinforced to him that his Dom instincts were dangerous and something to be feared; plus he didn't seem to get much satisfaction out of plays either since all he had to do was glare to get a Sub into subspace. finding someone he could really interact with, have a real play with, who didn't just interest him but also made him feel he could have a meaningful connection at last - one he did indeed develop - to me, i can see how that would come as a huge blow to him.
i also agree it shouldn't be the MC's responsibility to console him (or really that any consoling should be needed, because as you said, a safe word has a discussed purpose) but since that's evidently just not how the universe in this manga sees it, a strong reaction even without the ML's past isn't strange contextually. so basing this only on the way this world apparently works, the MC should have just said something rather than letting the ML think otherwise. and clearly it upset the ML that the MC WASN'T doing so later on when the ML knew he was genuinely pushing it - perhaps as a way to punish himself (ML) for his previous behavior and current reaction?
speaking now to the safe word, honestly the explanation leads to it being potentially abused by unhealthy/toxic Subs to keep their Doms 'in line' (like partners who constantly threaten to break up/leave/cheat/etc.) or unhealthy/toxic Doms knowing their Subs would never want to hurt them and thus trapping them into whatever the Dom wants to do to them. i can understand the mangaka wanting an in-universe way to instill some manner of realization for the MC without him yet rectifying the misunderstanding and thus create a plot path for the later interactions, but it sets a very poor precedent in a world where apparently a Sub's ONLY defense is a safe word (which in itself is NOT really a safety since it will ONLY matter/work for a partner a Sub would most likely already feel more trust toward than a Dom stranger with bad intentions).
sometimes aspects of some Dom/Sub Verse(s) irk me and feel much too heavily weighted toward Subs having basically no control, while then Doms are ignored as also being capable of drops, needing to be satisfied with a play, and wanting/needing aftercare. i generally enjoy universes like this or Omegaverse, and in the end it's obviously still a romanticized fictional fantasy for entertainment, but i vastly prefer when there's more actual balance. i feel it gives greater depth to the universes the plots and characters are set in. besides, what kind of supposed biology is nearly all pros or all cons? even predator/prey have some balance or else every ecosystem would be thrown into chaos.
While I was reading it recently I would’ve never guessed that the stuff in the beginning happened, almost like it was fake until the recent chapter.
I know everyone’s excited for the bdsm stuff to come back but honestly I’m not. It’s clear his need for that stems from the hatred he feels for his family, he wants to take it out on someone else so they feel what he felt. I just don’t think it’s good for either of them and Yu clearly ain’t into that. Idk I feel like things were actually healing and the bdsm stuff coming back will just destroy them. I want them to work through the issues, i don’t believe he will rape him again but if he does I’m dropping cause like all that progress for what?
I remember quite a few chapters back Yu was literally questioning why he wasn’t being more intense like how he was before (obvi he didn’t want the non-consensual stuff)
I saw in the comments that he didn’t actually leave but the fact he’s going to do more to him and not even give him water or a proper break with talking or anything and just using him like a sex doll? And I’m going to take a wild guess that they are going to treat this like this is okay like it was romantic annd sexy and Yesing won’t ever get to lay into him for everything.
Nah, this couple ruined the whole manga for me, I don’t think I’m going to come back until it’s finished or even at all.
It’s a shame because the art style is gorgeous.
If anyone can tell me if there’s groveling or at least Yesing laying into this MF for everything let me know cause I may stay.
it may or mat not change your mind but my latest comment is spoiler for the next few chapters
exactly what I said! I find it so disgusting when semes keep going until they're satisfied, when their partner is clearly exhausted, and maybe even hurt, and keeps asking to stop... He's not the one on the receiving end, this type of selfish and inconsiderate behavior really irks me!
Everyone talking about his attractiveness but can we talk about how he actually cares and checks on her while staying sexy and actually spends time with her and gets her stuff without being a condescending dick about it.
SO HARD TO FIND IN HENTAI! Finally a guy who’s attractive and not a complete asshole!!
Am I the only one who just can’t stand Shahid? He acts like an entitled manchild when it comes to Yesing.
Like good god, both Yesing deserves way better. At least Kindred is a bit better and actually treats Alvin with respect.
Kindred’s never been in this situation before dealing with an abuse victim so understandably he’s making mistakes but at least he’s doing his best not to hurt or force him. I just want to watch Alvin grow into his own person and kindred to help him through it.
Shahid belongs in cuffs everytime he interacts with Yesing.
Agreed about Shahid because he does not understand consent at all and he's just jarring. But Kinard is very wrong as well I think, just seeing the way he interacts with everything and remembering that dr Caleb said his mind is still as it was ten years ago makes their relationship quite weird
I agree with that and I’m sure that’s going to be a problem later but I’m more on kindreds side because he never forced anything on Mc and always stopped when he thought he was hurting unlike Shadid and he was encouraged by Shadid to do it. He really is nothing but a sex puppy in the story who doesn’t know the word No and that’s what’s annoying me.
Fr, Shahid just does not quit and then acts a fool and says yesing is just a child like make it make sense
At least we see good caring potential in the spider when he interacts with his little brother and saw Yan with his brother.
I’ve seen no kind or considerate or parental bone in the ML’s entire body. He really just pyschologicaly tortured our MC because he was a bit angry? He thought he would understand he wasn’t actually killing their child? Huh??? That makes zero sense.
Even if they do have their kid he’s going to be the most dogshit father. Imagine what he would do to his own child when he’s upset. He’s just a bad fucking person all around.
Yeah spider didn’t do good things either but damn at least Yan was actually happy for a good few moments of his miserable life.i know they are end game but this really is the one of the most awful written couple I’ve ever seen. He’s just purely abusive without cause.
From where I’m standing spider would actually be the way better option here, at least he’s a good brother which gives him sense of compassion. Because the ML holy fuck, garbage.
This Man raped and shot the man he loved because he thought he betrayed him. Even the doctor said to stop and he didn’t, even kept doing it WHILE HE WAS TREATED. Laughed at his trauma.
They didn’t even talk about the misunderstanding!
And the apology was so fake and immature. It felt like a kidergarten apology.
“Now say sorry but be sincere!”
“Okay sorry
Thank you for posting this. I’ll sit this one out
Which chapter did that happen , I'm still Abit behind
you obv havnt read the whole manga lol, read chapter 63, lee won shot him in the leg and practically “rap ed” him too if that’s ur definition of ra pe .
Did you not read chapter 42?
He shot him in the shoulder and raped him.
Thats my definition of rape.
I hate that Dan has to go through this, but I really didn’t see any other way for him to be free of that musclehead.
It felt like her death was definitely needed for the plot. I’m ready for Dan’s dark arc, I can’t wait.
(P.S: Idgaf what’s happening in the comments, just go back to talking about the manwha and ignore them, they get more attention if you spam responses.)
you’re so right though!! it’s a hard pill to swallow but the author was clearly using the grandmas death as a catalyst for dans change. he’s stubborn in the love he has for jae, but the loss of his biggest support will be the biggest element to his character development
It’s like smut but more wholesome, like these beast men aren’t just brain dead horny sex beast for the MC to enjoy. They have feelings and reasons and personalities and depth, there’s actual plot and it makes sense and it’s good. Like Little A is doing what he’s doing to them because it genuinely helps them not just lust and fetish content. I feel like the Uncle and the researcher aren’t evil but just don’t take the beast men’s feelings into account. They have a “Well don’t you want to be human again” which they probably would but right now they need help with who they are, not the possibility of going back to human. Little A understands this and the researcher just doesn’t understand it and neither does the uncle.
I’m actually excited for the rest.
You explained it perfectly. I think that’s why I enjoy it so much. For little A, it isn’t for some sexual gratification and isn’t getting anything sexual from it, I mean besides being really flustered about it but try to be “professional” about it even if it’s sorta a “unorthodox” way to do it but hey at least he genuinely wants to help these guys and isn’t perceiving them as sexual objects 24/7 as would any other BL ML might do in every yaoi in a situation like this.