PLEASE CAN WE JUST MAKE IT SO BE BECOMES THE REAL MALE LEAD. I'VE GROWN AN ATTACHMENT TO HIM. THE BOND IS STRONGER THAN MY FATHER AND MILK
They strip Yeonwoo naked in the bathroom, im not sure about what they did to him after but he had scratch/ scrape marks all over his body so he mightve been raped.
I was CSA'd by a high schooler but korean schools are seriously next level, we need to give these fuckers a good beating
I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT YOU I WONT EVEN GET SUPER ANGRY IF DAN ENDS UP WITH JAEKYUNG THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A 2ND ML I LOVEE YOUUU!! YOU WERE ALWAYS MY BIASS HOMEGIRLL
BRO THIS IS ME LMAOOOOO. FORGET EVERYTHING I SAID
HEESUNG LIKES DAN NOT JAEKYUNG F YOU DUMBASSES AND HEESUNG IS SO SWEET TO DAN I KNEWW ITTT YESSS LETS GOO I ALREADY LIKE HIS CHARACTER EVEN IF HE JUST LIKES DAN FOR LOOKS HE SEEMS SO NICE
IN HEESEUNG WE TRUST (Im literally praying he doesn’t become an unlikeable character)
I think the author let their intrusive thoughts out near the end, half-way rape and sibling incest play oh hell no
Istg author's let out their own weird fetishes on their work every single TIME
Someone said Dojin is a pro-lifer i cant remember a lot of the story only bits and pieces I'll reread it but boy aint no way boy
This is so funny to me cause outside of sex (Initiated by hyesung i am not refering to all those rapey scenes) Hyesung seems to really dislike Dojin. This goofball is so prideful too, hes my favourite character + Chowon's baby + Byul i like him a lot.
i am guessing you have a rape fetish in most of your comments even though there is no rape you talk about rape..
Except there is. It’s not explicit but when a person is not in their right mind to consent, that can be considered as r@pe. Hyesung even said so himself.
MY THOUGHTS TOO like why does hyesung just so upset and so prideful when it comes to him. It just doesn't get better aside from when they have sex. Literally no hesitation on rejecting dojin
Im not willing to go over every single scene here so i'll take one from the side stories.
1. https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-13/ "S-stop!" Hyesung is hesistant because he doesnt want to do it in public for fear of being caught.
2. https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-35/ "No!! Dont do it!!" Hyesung is expressing the fact that he does not want to have intercourse right now.
3.
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-50/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-51/ "Hurry...please" Dojin ignored what Hyesung said and didnt acknowledge his lack of consent. This is categorised as marital rape.
Another thing to note, according to the FRIES of consent. For something to be consensual it has Freely given, Reversable, Informed, Enthusiastic and Specific (to read more on it look at my bio and scroll a little. Well this scene doesnt even tick half the boxes:
1. Not freely given https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-11/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-15/ Both these scenes are coercive "It'll only take a second" = It will be fast just let me do it + "i wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for you anyway" = why are you complaining this is your fault. It makes Hyesung feel like he has to give Dojin what he wants despite his refusal.
2. The consent wasnt Reversable because well, it wasnt there.
3. Unenthusiastic https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-24/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-28/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/br_chapter-150385/pg-30/ Hyesung felt obligated to give Dojin some sort of sexual relief and at first dojin aknowleged it but then he uses the fact the Hyesung was 'soaking wet' to indicate that he was turned on. When, in fact, this manhwa has made it clear that it is an uncontrollable physiological reaction. Like a boner.
Thank you for reading this far, i hope your confusion on consent cleared up. I reccomend this video if you ever feel sorta confused again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLKWEUhOHss
we are talking about a fiction character that it happened to be an omega that need an alpha, they are married with a child .
Wow good reply man!
R@pes also happen in fiction???? What’s your point???
bruh so him being a tsundere and saying mean stuff to his husband that loves him and does everything for him means rape.
so from your point of view this is rape ?
alright sorry i wont take your comments seriously ever again ╮(￣▽￣)╭
but he obviously wanted it too. dunno he seems happy to me
obviously i can see that but if you compara this vanilla to harada's work this is like playing between married people.
dunno i might be interpretanting in a different way than you guys .
thats what i am tring to say even though he doesnt want it he want it
Did you even read my comment you dont want to listen so im not gonna convince you, seems like someone is delusional
Yeah man its too bad though Dojins actions arent good either, seems like love really is an illusion in this one
If a man said this about his wife he would be in jail i guess gay people dont have the human right to say no lol
Strawman
his husband did everything for him to be happy dojin is not in the wrong for wanting his wife thats how married couples i am being quiet realistic.
he seemed pretty fine to me
The issue here isnt his desire but the fact that it was unconsensual, you are severely misinterpreting everything i say and making up your own idespas without even realissing it. Im not going to be trying to convince you anymore. Read my first repky to you again if you want to and actually look through it. You dont have t though shitt
Goddamn, you went above and beyond to respond to a purposely insulting ignoramus. I applaud you.
1 . https://iweb16.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/love_is_an_illusion/150385/150385_27817108.jpg he didnt want it cause he was afraid of dojin being on the news not cause he didnt want it
2 https://iweb16.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/love_is_an_illusion/150385/150385_27817139.jpg he obviously wants it look at him melting
3 https://iweb17.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/love_is_an_illusion/157817/157817_28670891.jpg he treats dojin like trash even though he loves hyesung to the moon and back.
dont try to bring rape when there was none
1. That is what i said, he didnt want to do it because they could get caught
2. Its your personal perspective on his reactions, i am only using evidence from the specific words and thoughts that were displayed. If you were reffering to him being wet, again, psychological reaction that cannot be controlled. Rape can be presented in a sexualised and romaticsed way, your personal views arent fact.
3. This isnt an arguement, people in love can be raped, hyesung treating dojin like trash doesnt matter. Often the people who will rape you are your closest loved ones. You havent looked at the evidence i showed from a neutral perpective or you just didnt look at it all since you havent given any valid arguement here.
they look pretty lovey dovey to me dunno.
They just don't understand that r@p£ can happen between married couple. If they didn't consent you then it's sexual assault "but he seem okay at the end" its still r@p£ dont try to justifies things that's wrong bunch of sick bitch£s.
Thats subjective on the way theyre presented, trust me any relationship in any sort of material can look positive if you want to make it look that way .Thats why we need to think very clearly about the characters words, actions and thoughts. Not their facial reactions or what they seem to be. Its just not a solid way to interpret their relationship and what happens throughout it. You're unknowingly looking at it through rose-tinted glasses because the author romaticsed it. The outside perspective is the most important, if you're not sure just dont comment on it. Its ok to be confused lol.
are you sure were reading the same manhwa darling? because saying that there's no rape in this manhwa in bewildering and crazy how could you not tell what rape is
Yeah its kind of sad to see. Thats what reading material you're not emotionally mature enough to interpret correctly is dangerously impactful on someones understanding of consnet. Its the authors honestly, they present abuse in a horrible manner.
the only rape happened was when dojon was out of it and forced him with his pheromones can remember any other moment though also dont we all remember hyesung being just prideful and an airhead . i know rape in the marriage happens .
in here i just i cant accept after everything dojin has done for him he still acts like he doesnt love it when he obviously loves him .
dojin* cant*
Exactly that was one of the flaws in this manhwa everything was taken as a joke at the end but when hyesung get mad he's the bad guy .
guys i know we are reading the same manga i know that 2 Right dont make wrongs disappear, dont we all see that dojin is trying to make him happy but he has no character development .
???Dojin is not the subject of symapthy here Hyesung is. He deserves every rude and foul word because of his actions. We are not playing this game, LIAL sympathises with the rapist (Dojin) while demonising the victim (Hyesung). Textbook rape culture contribution. Read the paragraph about ficitonal pornography in my bio if you dont get what i mean, its ok to be wrong but its not okay to stay wrong. Be emotionally mature here man, admitting you weren't in the right isnt that deep but being in denial and being unable to properly identify consent is real concerning
i could be worried of you cause i am not the one going under every red flag manga talk about rape anyway guys. i am mature enough and not fragile that whould be affected by a omegaverse bl. i stated my opinion on the manga nothing else i might be right i might be wrong who cares we are just no one commented on porn manga. we agree to disagree peace now
i mean if i cant convince you just have a good day bye
It's not about how it affects us, it's about how you guys would literally defend rapists. It's concerning in itself and funny how you say ur mature enough
same
Tf are u talking about u clearly not mature enough to be on this website point out rapey scene and disliking it is a bad things?? What are u a r@p£ enabler??
do you know me or something ? XD if you want to victimize hyesung go ahead i was just speaking for the manga.
i have been here since 2015 xD tell me more about it.
you are out of context are you really talking about this specific manga or are you referring to reality .
About how u would defends a literal rapist?? being here long enough doesn't mean you're mature seeing how u keep changing ur words u def not mature enough to accept it when someone calls u out "it's just a fiction" and it's still a valid things to discussed. "If you're affected by fiction you're not mature" there's literally no problem to be affected by fiction bcs there's people out there who experienced the very same thing that happen in fiction
the op just defended themselves bcs someone said they have r@p£ fetish for no fucking reason?? And then u come with a whole ass list said that there's no r@p£ happen between dojin and hyesung and then u changed ur word said u can't stand hyesung bcs he have no character development when ORIGINALLY its not even the reason
-Why the argument is happened
i mean their username speaks a lot about themselves.
Should've take it as a hint
well they had a reason cause in every manga and also his bio he talks about rape so you assume stuff as you assuming about me being mature or not .i am not deffenting anyone also cause it is fiction and i am assuming we speak about the manga the specific manga that has male omegas geting pregnant. pf course i couldnt use logic in this manga . i just dont take it the same way you guys do cause as i said and you also mention its fiction and i dont care i came for the drama i dont like neither rape blaming nether victimizing its literally 2 fictional characters why whould i care to think too deep about it. you have your opinions i have mine opinions . also yea hyesung has no character development he just cant accept how much he loves dojin . （￣へ￣）
if you guys hate those kind of mangas why go out pf your way to read it and them complain about it.
that's adorable
it is
I point out rape in the manga i read cause its way too common. The issue is with mangakas making rape common place not me holding the characters and mangakas accountable for their actions (i felt like you were implying i talk about rape too much so if i was wrong dont mind me). I have nothing against you ma'am but i think you should just stop replying to this thread. Youre making a fool out of yourself because most of your claims are baseless and frankly delusional in the face of facts. I have no other way to say this in a more respectful manner. Do as you like, im just making a suggestion.
you might be right i just dont like being called delusional when all of us are reading the same manga or not and i am just stating my opinion only based on the manga thats about yaoi/ omegaverse that is over the board fiction, its a way to get out of the reality we live on. thats all thank you for listening at my ted talk. (●'◡'●)ﾉ
I didnt mean delusional in an insulting way at all, i want to make that clear, i just didnt have another way to express i feel you cone across. This kind of material is damaging to males primarily so im sure you as a woman wont see the issue with it being fiction (this is just how i think youre coming across sorry if im wrong). Theres gonna be a day where you understand what i mean and it doesnt have to be today. Im sure youre not the pos that some comments are thinking you are. You seem like a nice lady, have a good day.
wth bruh i understood everything i just dont care. we are on a pornsite thats full of categories you wanna read . unbelivable ...
Alright
Smartest Fujoshi
thank you that's what my mom tells me every day. you have a good perception. cheers
Im 100% sure he has a personality disorder, hes so apathetic with a lack of empathy and generally he seems like he doesn't truly understand his own feelings properly. Its hard to tell whether his obsession with Sooyoung is a love disorder or something way more sinister. If it is a love disorder the simple solution is to leave Sooyoung and get psychiatric support but he's never gonna do that is he? Wonder if this has a novel i can read.
No novel unfortunately. I wish though…