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You're too into yaoi world lol not everybody's first kiss is their forever partner or quite literally in this case the ML

I know and thats not my point thx

What was that abrupt response lmao

Uh were you expecting a long ass reply then? Should I then say, "sorry, you're too into the comment section and barking at the wrong tree?" My response is as clear as my main comment's point thank you.

I am sorry ,maybe i just didn't know anything and acted immature,i am really sorry for acting like a know it all

CALEB BOOMBAYAH ME PLESZEDHUUDEEHERSSHG

Honestly I am really glad to hear this

Lmao this screams "Are we traumatized? YES"

Link to raws?

https://newtoki468.com/webtoon/42864882?toon=BL%2FGL

It's crazy how BLs fucked our mind into thinking colossal titan cocks on men are normal. I went to check the raws and thought "oh this is normal sized, wow", then realised shit, even in real life dicks that size is actually pretty big

LMAO IKR like if i were to take on any of the colossal dicks lingering around here, id be booking my first trip to death and hell cuz aint no way thats built for any hole whatsoever

Thanks:33

RIGHT. I love every single details about the healthcare system in this one. It's so well done and thoughtful.

If the advice bothers you so much, go touch grass cuz this is a free comment section. Just because everyone is entitled to an opinion, doesnt mean that one should straight up label the other person a liar and a hypocrite just because they cant control their emotions☠

Some people acted all high and mighty because they can handle the most toxic story ever known to man, cringey fucktards just say you have no morals and you want people to acknowledge your 'toughest soldier act'. Disgusting.

Before any other bitches like Meruemshu coming here to cry like them, the more you read toxic stories, the more toxic you become. Why? Because your experiences shape you. Take it to reflect or leave it to continue living pathetically. I am entitled but so are you, do what you see fit but dont fucking come at people and start flaming them for your own re-validation.

I can't agree more, I can't believe i read all of you two's argumenti was hyping up your take so bad and they were not making any sense too literallyXD

Helpp you did? Thank you i was so frustrated in disbelief to see someone being actually pressed over harmless advice. This website continues to surpass my expectations everyday. Have a good day though stranger

I'm so confused. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Hhh its someone problematic from my previous comment not far down here

I don't think a sane person would become toxic just bc they read toxic stories.. like I like watching horror movies even tho im scared of darkness and I watched American psycho and thought it was amusing but didn't see the appeal.

Broo i have no idea why that person reacted like that what you were just informing us about the fucked up things you read in the raws. How did they take offense to that

Yeahh keyword is 'sane' which unfortunately what the person didnt have. They clearly stated how they enjoy toxic stories and telling people off to cry about it. That in itself screams extremely problematic to me, its just like the saying, you are what you consume which can also be applied here and you're good as long as one is aware

Cuz they thought i was bitching about it apparently and took it personally people are weird i cant even say im suprised, id be more than surprised to see level headed people nowadays instead. Its giving "I can read fucked up stories, you weakass whiny bitches cant so fuck off" attitude but blocked me instantly, talk about handling toxicity well ironic and moronic at best

I've actually argued with user Meruemshu before but i don't quite remember when and what exactly the context was. Probably something similar to your argument with them lol I had them blocked for a while.

Oh its a personality issue alright thx for letting us know, tough luck out there

We definitely can't say anything abt the toxic tropes. They'll say "don't read" "find fluff somewhere else" "this is just fiction"" etc. I can actually understand but if we never read it, how can we know if it's disposable trash or recyclable trash? And after reading trash I will definitely go look for fluff but that's a needle-in-a-haystack situation since I have been reading bl for more than a decade. It may be fiction but it doesn't mean it can't be criticized right? Even a good/bad movie gets disected and commented upon.

I don't wanna block.

I just wanna have a fight (▰˘◡˘▰)

Cant say it anymore truer good sir/maam/beautiful being. I've seen some of their comments, they openly hate on people whos against their views and absolutely shit on so called 'woke people'. Pathetically so, atp its a disappointment of a human being despite whatevs their age is

plss link to the raws (also if it’s alright with you can you summarize what happens?)

Now you've teased me lol

https://newtoki468.com/webtoon/34367497?stx=%EA%B0%80%EC%9E%A5+%EC%99%84%EB%B2%BD%ED%95%9C+%EB%8F%84%ED%98%95&title=%EA%B0%80%EC%9E%A5-%EC%99%84%EB%B2%BD%ED%95%9C-%EB%8F%84%ED%98%95

I've just checked the raws and you're lying there's nothing crazy about it.

Spoiler

https://newtoki468.com/webtoon/34367497?stx=%EA%B0%80%EC%9E%A5+%EC%99%84%EB%B2%BD%ED%95%9C+%EB%8F%84%ED%98%95&toon=BL%2FGL

I can read the language but the words i understand r so miniscule so i can only conclude from some scenes,,,but imo when its finally translated, itd be very heavy as shown by the translated chapters we alrd have at the moment so just a heads up.


Both of them obviously liked the uke but when Ido saw them tgt, something raced through his mind and we're gonna be brought back to a recap of their pasts for several chapters. Later Ido asked for a breakup but they solved it right then and there, Ido cried and he said he was just lying, that he doesn't really want to break up. He's essentially afraid of losing the uke because from the recap, the uke stayed with him despite how fucked he was and all the time he thought hes gonna get abandoned but nope. Ido and Jin on the other hand, i would say they do love each other as well. Im not too sure but it seemed like Jin was really obsessed with the brilliance of Ido and geonwoo that he wanted to be apart of it so he made himself known to Ido, gyeonwoo became sort of like their shared interest and fast forward, here we are.

End of season 1, they ended amicably but season 2 was a whole lot to take in to the point that the story almost became a pentagon poly instead of a triangle i was so dumbfounded at this part. Basically, season 1 is about Ido's issues, in season 2 they're working the relationship tgt but external issues;

1. gyeonwoo's friend who seems to hold gyeonwoo as a love interest,
2. Jin's ex. I skimmed over this part because by the end, the next issue is focused on Jin. Things didnt end well with the ex basically.

Gyeonwoo was still getting used to Jin and sometimes he cant help but be hesitant around him because Jin refuses to communicate or share anything about himself (Jin's ex for eg). One time, he flinches when Jin raised his arms, Jin didnt understand why and he was sorta offended by it cuz he compared how Gyeonwoo was with Ido, the complete opposite. Jin then forced Geonwoo aka raped him despite the extreme fear shown by Gyeonwoo, later on Ido came home and greeted them. They were lying on the bed, Jin snuggling Geonwoo from the back and Geonwoo immediately ran to hug Ido, trembling in fear (this was meNTAL)Ido noticed but he didnt point it out yet.

Next day, theyre trying to have sex again but Gyeonwoo is still scared, Jin shouted at him, Gyeonwoo, in tears, told him how Jin is the one avoiding him. From the commotion, Ido entered the room and punched some sense into Jin. Gyeonwoo passed out and they reconciled soon after. Season 2 ends. Expect s3 when they're taking the relationship to the next step i assume.

Aha before i forget, the early chapters of of season 2 was the one that got me absolutely dumbfounded and speechless, the uke was taken by force by a stranger, he was raped and Gyeonwoo was desperately shouting for him to stop and for help. Ido and Jin raced in his mind but they're at home. Then boom plot twist, the stranger was Ido and i dont fucking understand their motives, but no matter what it is, its hella fucked and wrong. Jin is there too. They comforted Gyeonwoo and note that they did this at the fire escape stairs.

...how entitled must one be to call the other person a liar even when they expressed their truth/views of the story? Hm well i dont care if you found the story normal but for me, the story was fucked up. Theres so much that is wrong about it but calling me a liar was incredibly out of the blue and offensive. Kindly, reflect on yourself thank you

Like tell me how getting raped and suddenly everything is all good because the rapist was actually your lover to begin with, IS OKAY? Ive said it before im gonna say it again, even if we're all fucked in the head, this (story) shouldn't be the catalyst that would ruin our value even more. If the story is not crazy then maybe its just you and your mentally distorted ideal of a crazy story. Just because this is 'less bad' according to your dictionary, doesnt magically made it 'nothing crazy' and justified. Im flabbergasted but then again, i shouldnt be surprised anymore

You are one hell of a hypocrite lmao. Talking about entitled? Then tell me, since it's your truth, so where tf do you get the nerve and audacity to say "will get anyone with a moral compass either frustrated or get their compass even more fucked than ever" and "Approach it with caution though, because, seriously even if we're all fucked in the head, this shouldn't be the catalyst that would ruin our value even more."???

In which way does your personal opinion about anything would be the catalyst to ruin someone's value?

Just because it doesn't align with YOUR values doesn't mean she for anyone else so how about before giving lessons to people you learn to apply your own damn advice? You didn't just express your views you said that it would ruin people's moral compass and our value.

You're a hypocrite.

Again, if you're gonna talk about entitlement as a flaw you should learn to apply your own words and not be an entitled mf who allows themselves to act like their evaluation of what's crazy is more accurate than others'.

Be coherent, you can't whine and play the victim because "how dare you challenge my view of the world womp womp" and then go "Just because this is 'less bad' according to your dictionary, doesnt magically made it 'nothing crazy' and justified."

Like, isn't it entitled to consider that YOUR vision is the absolute vision? You talked about it like it was MDP*PE or something, meanwhile it's just your personal judgment.

Most people around here absolutely can handle 10 times what's in this story, it's you who can't handle it and have your moral compass changed by such weak shit.

At this point you're just full of shit. Just say you hate it and that you find it immoral period. Tf are you inventing about ruining people's value? Get the hell out of here clown.

And stop reading toxic stories just to cry about them fucktard.

Aint no way someone is pressed for reading an advice they can clearly ignore. Do they not have freewill suddenly?☠

Oh and they also blocked me LMAO talk about being an avid reader of toxic stories but cant even handle getting called out for your own toxicity ☠

"There's literally plenty of fluff out there. You just choose to read the toxic ones." Words of Meruemshu.

I for one was in a poly relation online and my boyfriend was the one who was acquainted with the other guy(they had some light physical relationship). I was excited even though it was an ldr and they were respectful of me even though I was 7 yrs younger than both of them. They'd both meet up and I couldn't bc of my circumstances but it was all mutual and I wasn't jealous of their relation. I was jealous bc I couldn't be there with them. I was planning to stay in the relation for as long as we van but eventually we broke up bc of my idiotic bf.



But this here is just bullshit and both of them are rapist. I don't want my partner to be a gentleman or anything but the right thing to do is not force a person to have sex when they are not of sane mind. And they are manipulative to boost AND the uke even thought of blackwater the seme to sleep with him. Even if the seme is a promiscuous ass, that thought is extreme.

I'm curious to know what your age is Ms/Mr Meruemshu

PS. I can enjoy a shitty story and still criticize it.

I already knew this manhwa had issues not dam that’s a whole nother point. I thought it was already bad but it gets worse my poor baby gyeonwoooo he’s legit suffering in the hands of these two bastards at this point he needs to be saved

He signed up for this unfortunately but the rape scenes left such a bitter aftertaste, it was graphically and mentally disturbing, only to be surprised with tada its just us your lovers so the rape should be fine,,, HELL NAH?;")#!£)@!

Literally

I didn't even wait to get to that part.. It was hate at first sight with this one.

I think Leewon twiddling Caesar's conscience is the best way to punish him.

Caesar is a man of power, Leewon can't win against him in a trial
Leave the country? he will be dead. His father and the group is not capable nor willing enough to protect him to that extent.

Let's say Leewon miraculously win and Caesar goes to jail, with the way he was raised, his prison time is basically just a vacation.

Death penalty? the mf is a suicidal from the very beginning. He doesn't care.

Torture? That's like Tuesday to him

The list could go on and on, but currently, he doesn't have any morals so almost anything is useless.
So again, the best thing to do is to introduce guilty conscience to him.

this is why explanation for behaviour is important in court, it's not about making excuses, it's about understanding the circumstances of the crime and determining the appropriate punishment.
Love is the only way (fucking cringe i slapped my face after I typed that)

It was always hinted that Caesar is a teachable character and Leewon is not a defenseless crybaby.
Leewon being a stubborn mf and a lawyer is the main reason why he can keep up with Caesar's bullshits. He will always find a reason to stay and will not let go of him because he find him exhilarating, just like the cases that he takes.
Leewon is not manipulated to do things, Caesar's bullshits are aphrodisiac to him like literally.

I think the story is about two people designed to be with eo, in a plot were they are not supposed to be together.

Love your thoughts, thank you for this!

Mm i think this is a good perspective to take and understand too. It lowkey did justice to his lawyer background,,, though its also because there's no other way it can be portrayed realistically except this.

But not to forget the amount of work they needed and absolutely horrendous methods displayed were the main frustration source, it serves as a fictional purpose afterall at the end of it.

From my pov now after reading yours, theres still the plausible act of manipulation involved and leewon might've seen this and like u said, if caesar's bullshits are like aphrodisiac to him, then he's that willing to ignore yet buy the words spouted by the guy in front of him. In a way, it may seem like hes not manipulated aka hes girlbitchbossing this hunk of a troublemaker but then its just upto his resolve to willingly fall into his wide open jaw.

Caesar's actions are still akin to a well thought out and calculative manipulations to me though. And tbf, manipulation is in our everyday lives, its just, some are blurry, some can be distinctively detected.

Overall, a good discussion. Being a level headed person on this website is a rare trait nowadays, thank you for sharing!

Try to differentiate the main story and the side stories.
Main story was about them loving each other and figuring out why. Leewon singing 'My life would suck without you' is the conclusion that I got. He even taught Caesar of the concept of compromise. (there's a scene where Leewon asked Tsar to give him weeks to finish his works and then after that they can fuck like rabbits)
So the foundation of their love and relationship is already there, if it's just the two of them.
That's the whole vibe of the main story, It's just the two of them.

Now with the side stories, the external factors (the father, mafia world, homophobia, etc.) came crashing down, making Caesar triggered and Leewon tensed with all the stress.
The world is suddenly on to them, judging and meddling in their affairs.
The things that the readers claimed as "manipulation" was actually Caesar's statements. The way he slit his neck is not a 'dont you dare leave me' but a 'Oh, you're leaving me? okay noted' kind of fatal wound.
This two doesn't need to manipulate each other anymore, that's off the table after the main story ended.
Now is about facing the external factors with their relationship intact.

You might ask why is this separated from the main story, it's simple, the external factors are not relevant in the couple's relationship. Leewon doesn't give a shit about his father.
They were already on the right path to fix their problems when the main story ends. The chaos in the side stories are just short cuts for the couple's development and of course, for the flare.

I get this perspective, thank you for explaining. But ive long decided that the story isnt really for me, far before the side stories started, specifically during caesar's outbursts and shot leewon. I guess you can say im not willing to turn a blind eye to this, therefore, we can agree to disagree in terms of liking the story. Not to say that im not willing to understand, its more like im not willing to compromise my sake of peace and by right, i have my own tolerable standards and this did not fit.

that's fair. I for one approached genres like this logically and with emotional detachment.
I like deconstructing the plot and settings because that's where the hints for plot twists usually sets in.
I got too excited and misapprehended that this discussion is a preference free space, cause in that case then same, i don't like getting raped and Caesar's bullshits too.

Its all good! You're very passionate in your explanations and i learnt something new as well, though doesn't mean im going to be willing to favour the story