Kawaiineko❤namjoon's Topics (1855)

Right!!! I want someone to put him in his place!!

I'm waiting for the Prince to come and happily do that

He is literally the WORST! He keeps badgering her and talking bad about her but then comes to get her help like he doesn’t constantly disrespect her?! He needs to get demoted and beaten up. I can’t believe Dou likes him when he’s supposed to love his sister.

This! Her dad is a way worse murderer. He orders it and does it for power and control despite having a nice luxurious life. Her dad is scum and she’s pathetic for not pushing back against him out of some patriarchal filial bs.

Because is her DAD bruh, an all her life until now she was her only ally, she only survived and had one goal in life because of him far before Shinpei even appeared. No Wonder she has complicated feelings. Her perfect world was having her Dad AND Shinpei by her side, bow she has basically none, and she has to sacrifice one for the other (whoe is not sane either)

*He was her only allá

*He was her only ally.

I get it like maybe she has stokholm syndrome but I'm still sad this is happening its ridiculous that her other friend is not advising against it.

He wasn’t on her side. Google the term benevolent sexism. She is his property and he has always intended to use her to enrich himself through connections to other families. That’s literally what daughters were. Property to be sold from fathers to husbands. A lot of people have a hard time swallowing this pill but marriage historically was literal slavery where some fathers maybe cared a little about their property more than the slavery some Americans may be used to reading about. Slavery has existed in many forms throughout many cultures and with “love” often mixed in. It’s MY opinion that daughters who won’t recognize this and stay loyal to men that would let her be potentially raped and brutalized on a literal crime island to manipulate them are brainwashed and lame. I’m willing to see where the author takes it but a lot of Japanese women are still very brainwashed as their country is extremely conservative with women in their 20s still having immense pressure to marry and have kids asap.

You are right butyou are thinking this from an spectator point of view only , obviously Satoko was suffering from abuse her whole life, even if the dad wasn't that awful, he still let the subtle abuse of the stepmother and stepsister happen (thats why I knew he wasn't as nice as Satoko painted him) but is clear that Satoko loved him very much and was the only "positive" thing she had in her life to the point she dedicated her few years to him and his "innocent dream of seeing his daughter marry and be happy" not knowing it was all a plot to use her as a tool, and that he always saw her as one to achieve money using her beauty and short life.
Satoko's (and other victims) act like that because they don't know better, and all the people around them are an active part of the problem too, even her childhood friend, couldn't see beyond that, ironically, the only people who made Satoko realize her worth were people who were also abandoned by society, an assassin who was heavily used and abuse, a bunch of prostitutes and mercenaries, thats why her actions and conflicted feelings make sense.
The author also is portraying all this, Idk if she is going to close this with Satoko "forgiving" her father, considering Japanese culture and how you have to respect your elders and family even if they are trash I wouldn't be surprised, I've read a lot of works like that, but the oppossite can happen too and she may not forgive him and simply part ways with him forever.

Or, GOD FORBID, give the father "a reason" to be acting that way because he had "good intentions" that went wrong along the way ( I doubt this since author showed how rotten to the core he is in contrast to other characters who still have humanity left to empathize with) we will see in this last chapters tho.

My point was aimed at the author and readers, not the other characters so I see the confusion. My worry is about whether or not the author is going to acknowledge the father as abusive in the narrative and have Satoko open her eyes to the patriarchy and for the plot to have Satoko question and reject her filial piety or if it’s just going to have her be doe eyed for her dad and forgive him and let him get off with some half assed redemption based on a half assed apology. I wonder if the narrative and Satoko will be as critical of her father and these other men as she’s being of Shinpei.

Despite his flaws he is an underdog who grew up with no formal education or parents/guardians and in poverty so for readers he is more sympathetic because it’s easier to believe he is a sympathetic product of his environment using the skills and coping mechanisms that served him up until this point even when they’re no longer serving him like they did. It makes sense he’s only just now having to reconcile with this and has never been around people with strong moral convictions about what is right and wrong from a legal, moral, or religious view point. However, Satoko hasn’t either but she thinks she has because she’s bot allowed to participate in the system. Her step mother is more aware of how the world works as well as the prostitutes on the island. Satoko is very naive and turning a blind eye to the systemic abuse and corruption her family and these upper class men participate in because she doesn’t see them murdering people. However they’re violent, participate in bloodshed, trafficking, war, and sexual abuse all the same. They’re the ringleaders whereas Shinpei has been a pawn in a rigged game, one rigged by wealthy men. It’s coming off very distasteful to non Japanese readers because of the conversations and values people are waking up to in different parts of the world right now. The story seems like it’s not going to acknowledge any of this in a meaningful way through Satoko and that will leave a bad taste in some readers mouths. If she’s going to be more harsh on Shinpei than men participating in the same system but that are more advantages than him. Whilst STILL not standing up to her own dad or showing up for Shinpei by advocating for him or trying to help with his psychotic break. Right now it just feels like she’s saying yeah damn actually he is crazy and I got in over my head. Now I need to be prepared to take responsibility and have him killed if he keeps killing people. I don’t find Satoko likable in this part of the narrative and if she continues with this. She’s not noble or naive or brave here. She just feels ignorant and wishy washy. We’ll see.

You are right and I hope too the abuse from his father is aknowledge not only by her but even by her Childhood friend who aligned hhimselfat the father side and views too by never trying to do more for Satoko and just be a pawn.

But I don't see Satoko abandoning Shinpei, idk why people is saying that, Satoko is shown to be a good person with strong morals, thats just how she is and she would be regardless of her father, since he wasn't shown teaching her anything, and playing the role of a "protector" of his ill girl rather than be an actual father figure. She absolutely hates being a burden, thats why she acts like that, she doesn't want blood of innocent people be spilled for her , she is being careful because not even her or Shinpei know what he is capable of in the state of mind he is now, he is not above killing everyone and kidnap her far away, something that Satoko would never be happy about, even if this happens and she spends the rest of their time alone together , hypothetically, she'll feel guilty the rest of her short life, and thats what Shinpei fears too.

We saw she has always been proactive, since she can die at any moment she has nothing to lose, and we saw her talking with her childhood friend, she is obviously doing what she can. But you can do as much when you are a woman with no real allies (just like 2 and the other is her lil sister) who is also chronically ill and only 16 years old against two rich men with armies that want to control her future, and STILL she is doing something :v , thats why I've faith in her decisions.

I can't imagine Satoko killing him to take responsability tho , if anything lovers suicide seems more viable, we don't even know if they can really be free and for Shinpei to be what he was now that reality hit them so, both of them dying, with Satoko willingly going out with him too feels more in character, considering she has being shown to be very loyal to her loved ones.

i wish QwQ