*hikhik*'s Topics (801)

yeah, but im only into it if both parties consent. it would tons better if the uke liked him too.

well come on. the uke consented

link? sorry, i probably missed it.

he did???

link?

https://newtoki95.com/webtoon/12498858?toon=BL%2FGL hope that's the right one

it looked like it. I could be wrong

sorry. I thought this was Legs that won't walk. LOL Okay on this story.... Yes, the uke said no no, but they are in a relationship. He said no but he went with the seme to the private conference room, laid down, let the seme take care of him, remove his pants, was turned on. None of that says rape to me. It says, hey, we're at work, you cad. lol Don't get me hot at work. You're so bold.
stop being embarrassing, you horny bastard. etc.
Plus the character is a grouchy kind of guy. that's his personality. ............ "but my body opens up to his touch." THAT's NOT RAPe. imo. lol

it’s literally blackmail!! how is blackmail consent? im pretty sure it was something like; “oh you have a girls part down there, if you don’t let me papapa you ill tell everyone” idk but that’s just not consent to me, and the facial emotions too

THAT'S BULLSHIT!! THERE WAS NO BLACKMAIL! NOthing even close to blackmail happened! The uke said "we've been doing this sort of thing." for god's sake they're dating. The seme asks him, "is this okay?" the uke's personality is to grouse and be contrary. the author specifically showed that from the start to indicate that it's his personality. the uke goes along with the sex. THAT'S NOT RAPE! GOD! I'm so sick of you people

delusionally doggedly seeing blackmail when there's not one word of blackmail for one reason: you want to make everything into rape

give me the link, you gave me the wrong link already i can’t see what you’re talking about

ah wait, i got it

here’s the links; https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kalimeris_porno/mf/c001/11/ , https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kalimeris_porno/mf/c001/13/ , https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kalimeris_porno/mf/c001/14/ now show me where they consented. he never said yes, wether the blonde dude likes it or not, it doesn’t change the fact that what the seme did was rape. he said “is this okay?” but whenever the blonde tells him to stop he doesn’t listen, looking at these pages, HOW are you going to tell me this is consensual. literally, shut up i was trying to be nice but you are just not it.

“ Yes, the uke said no no, but they are in a relationship. He said no but he went with the seme to the private conference room, laid down, let the seme take care of him, remove his pants, was turned on. ” just because you’re in a relationship doesn’t mean they get to take advantage of you, he is going along with him because he was BLACKMAILED. he’s not grouchy.. have you seen grouchy characters? think about how he reacted towards the lady that forgot her pads. that isn’t grouchy. idgaf if the uke likesss it. this here, is rape.

“ well come on. the uke consented” WHEN? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. you never showed us where he consented and instead wrote a paragraph about WHY HE DID consent. i wasn’t even making a big deal about this! i simply said; “ yeah, but im only into it if both parties consent. it would tons better if the uke liked him too.” basically saying, i respect your opinion BUT non-consent isn’t really my cup of tea. this isn’t consent, if it was anything close to consent it would probably be in “dubious consent” which i don’t see. i was being respectful of your thoughts but you never showed ACTUAL consent. “oH itS JUst His PeRSonaLitY” goodbye, how?!

it’s not my fault your “delusionally doggedly” self cannot see that and is seeing consent when there’s not one word of consent for one reason; you want to pass off rape as the seme’s personality. it’s okay to like this, JUST STOP TRYING TO PASS IT OFF AS CONSENT. this is why our community’s hated.

then you show the proof of blackmail. you can't. there wasn't any

if I take your hand and say, "come with me" and you go with me, that's consent. these are adults. the uke is the boss. you think he was just having a break with reality when he went to the conference room? when he stayed because the seme said the door is locked, asked uke "is this oka?" stop being so pigheaded and hostile. You don't even see yourself as rude. you are

here's a clue: consent does not have to be verbal

what's so fkin annoying is how you fail to even look at the author's work and see it as something unique. all you do is focus in on something I don't think the author wanted you to focus on. That means you think you can write this story yourself instead of going along with the story the author is telling.

the author shows the couple in conflict. she is not showing rape. that's not the story.

are you daft? you don't need a link to dial back a few pages and glance at that part of the story again. stop yelling link link at me

the story is twenty pages including intro and closing. you can't find the foreplay? it's like two pages long

AND it's a love story. the seme declares his love at the end. did you even notice?

you continue to surprise me. im just going to point out what bothered me. “ if I take your hand and say, "come with me" and you go with me, that's consent.” it wasn’t
ike that though, it was like “if i take your hand and say, “come with me, because ive been keeping your dark secret, a secret for so long.” and you come with me, that’s consent? “ then you show the proof of blackmail. you can't. there wasn't any“ i literally put a link of three pages, you pigheaded brute. “yOu DonT eVEn SEe YOUrseLF as RuDE” you literally called me “ delusionally doggedly” seeing blackmail. and, you were very clearly being passive aggressive in the other comments. i started being rude because you were, im not rude to people unless they are. you were being so hostile too.. omg :(( im still waiting though, send me the links to were he didn’t verbally consent because, “ here's a clue: consent does not have to be verbal” if he nodded his head, that would be consent without speaking. but he literally said no,no,no MULTIPLE times. that’s not just his personality. he said NO explicitly till the very end. you just don’t want to admit it’s rape. if you show me where he DID consent then i’ll apologize for being a pighead, hostile, and delusional. oh, and i’ll try to look for some bls with actual characters that have the personality you’re describing. if i don’t, link them i just don’t want to.

also, it literally says “psychological” in the tags.

that literally screams obsession.

it is something unique, with rape. i literally wasn’t fucking focusing on the rape, can you get that through your head? “ That means you think you can write this story yourself instead of going along with the story the author is telling.” ..are you serious? when did i EVER say that. im not saying it’s a bad story, im just saying it’s rape.

idc if they’re a couple, that’s rape.

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kalimeris_porno/mf/c001/20/
oh, i noticed alright. it’s psychological, which usually has RAPE idk why you just can’t admit it.

i just said, going to summarize: “it’s rape, not my cup of tea.” like?? how was i just focusing on the rape? it was one comment.

you just got defensive and rude real quick, this was supposed to be a civil conversation. https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kalimeris_porno/mf/c001/8/ and this is the one you keep talking about; https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kalimeris_porno/mf/c001/9/ yeah.. he was real concerned, it just melts my heart :( (obvious sarcasm btw)

im telling you, the facial expressions speak a lot.

The seme says, "After [you have been] hiding your secret for so long, let me relieve you a little."
If he said, "After [I have been] hiding your secret for so long, let me relieve you a little," it wouldn't make sense. The first phrase would not support the second.
If the seme said, "I've been hiding your secret for a long time, so let me relieve myself a little," Then the first and second phrase would support each other and you'd have a case for non-consent. but that's not what he said.

when they say consent doesn't have to be verbal, it doesn't mean the person still has to nod their head. It means that if you the two people are in empathy with each other, both making out, kissing removing each others clothes, that's consensual sex.

What made me so mad was that you ignored the entire story in favor of disapproving of it, not even considering any kind of nuance, not even thinking about the author's inspiration, intent, idea, only summing it up and dismissing it with one word: rape, and I'm sick of that stuff. Devaluing the entire story by writing it off as rape makes it out like you're only reading the story with a witch hunt mentality.

i give up, yes you’re right.

because as a tag, "psychological" means absolutely nothing to me. Psychology? Everything can be said to be psychological. Every story has characters who have their own psychological outlook. All of them have a mental state. Whatever it means, that tag tells me nothing about a story.

What's interesting about the story is the sex, is the surprising aspect of the uke have a vagina. Why does everyone always have to make every fucking story about whether or not it's rape. I don't care if there's rape. I care about going on the journey the author is taking me on, feeling the feelings the author wants to evoke. I have no interest in scrutinizing these stories for consent, rape, none of that morality shit is the least bit interesting. what's interesting is the author's storytelling, its unfolding sequence of events. I'm sick to death of people ignoring all that and instead making it all about who consented, got raped, who is the villain, is the seme a rapist. you know what? I couldn't care less if the seme is good or bad. I care whether or not he's interesting, I care how the author handles all the elements she has to juggle to make the story.

Anyone who has ever been in a sexual relationship knows that "stop" can mean many things during sex. That sex educators would teach people that stop always means to
stop dead still and assume it's the end of our sex for the evening is so stupid I can't even believe they have enough brains to live.

okay i get it, i don’t really care. i really do not want to keep replying to you, i hope you can understand that im telling you to stop.

well, I don't really take orders from you

i agree with you here. i read the story and only afterwards said rape. it wasnt something i focused on. but it was rape. them saying it wasnt bc the uke liked it is bullshit. "the uke was turned on it wasnt rape" would mean that rapists saying the girl was wet means she liked it. its a physical reaction. not consent. again i agree with you the other person clearly tries to pass off rape ass consent without real proof

consent doesnt have to be verbal but tell me the uke didnt look uncomfy at the end the seme look crazed and obsessed

omg i totally got blackmail vibes by the way they were talking to each other. as if the uke was forced to have sex in exchange for the seme's silence about his secret. that seme lw scares me. the expression of the uke when the seme says "can i fuck your pussy" or something is so telling.

ikr!

thank youu, you explained it perfectly.

that you're projecting your hangups, both of you, onto a story is pretty obvious

bro i think ur missing some of the cues

I think you missed the entire story by focusing on rape. is rape all you think about?

If the author wanted to make it rape, why was the sex so explicit? It's obviously a sexual fantasy, not a story about the horrors of rape. Stories like this one have their own little genre called male futanari, cunt boy, cb. They are fantasy stories and the reason they show the couple having sex is because it is a sexual fantasy.
You're the ones projecting rape onto the story. obviously

The raws are over 100.
If you dont like that, then dont start it.
But its real good, no part where you are bored.
(Idk who's the person you are talkin about tho..?)
The genre shifts depending on Lok Heun's episode of life. Bc of that, you dont get bored of the romance or supernatural things. They have just the right frequency to keep you entertained and eager for more.
The sex does not have explicit scenes; the artist keeps it really modest and romantic.
And i love how the author handles the gender-bend! I dont feel the same identity-struggle that you can see in most of the gender-bender comics. The main character has it ballanced, and she lives up for both of her roles which i really like about her.

Hope these helped you decide

You might want to drop it. Later down the line there will be romance.

What? Ha... Yes I will drop it if the romance will start.