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lmfao

Heavy light saber. xD

Hahahaha

A Holy light saber (⌒▽⌒)

Yup... A blessed one

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Sorry, I don't quite understand what your friend said. Were they saying that both the ugly and handsome dude were given consent but it's considered rape when it comes to the ugly guy? Or both were without consent and only one was considered rape?

Both rape but only got sued... The ugly one

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The justice in that is in the fact that this statement is wrong

Ahh I see. Haha thank you for clarifying

No problemo, I hope that op doesn't believe it that statement

Ummm.... It actually doesn't have any connection to this whole shinanegans... I just remember it from when I type "handsome man" on the other comment Sorna. Share ko lang naman eh. Galit agad. hahaha LOL

and what’s wrong with her “spreading her legs” for a stranger? if it’s her choice to have *** willingly with a stranger then let her be and stop judging women like that dumbass

Oh... So, having s** with a stranger is good?

We're READERS, always expect being criticize. And I clearly pointed out in 1 & 3 of WH Questions and your only stuck in no. 2? Seriously? I am just pointing out. I simply just comment down that the story is lame, that is just an out right insult. The reason why I comment this was to SHARE and be INFORMED, how the story would continue with how limited the information on the story.

You're just pointing out the no. 2, pertaining about her sleeping with a stranger.

it’s not a matter of being good/bad. what matters is it’s a person’s own CHOICE whether she wants to do it with a stranger. really, it’s not that big of a deal to have *** with a stranger. at the end of the day, it’s just ***. you don’t need to attach specific meanings to it.

yeah, ure expected to criticize as a reader, but don’t judge a woman simply for doing it willingly with a stranger which is what you did in your second point. it’s her life let her do what she wants. AND YEAH, i am only pointing that out bc it’s the only thing i have a problem with lmao.

It's not a matter with willingly having sex with a stranger but she literally knows nothing about these ppl and just randomly had sex with him? What? Shouldn't your top priority be finding out where you are first and who all these ppl are? For all uk they could have aids and pass it on to her

im sick and tired of arguing w ppl like you so just read my reply above.

and even if they had aids and passed it on to her, then it won’t be her fault still bc it’s not like she’s the one who initiated the act. in this case, she’s the victim here since you’re all prolly forgetting she’s the one who got summoned from another world unwillingly. so dont blame her for anything or call her names/insults.

I think that this is meant to be mindless smut, basically porn with some plot but for some reason they didn't focus enough on the porn so I seems kinda like it's meant to be a story?


I use this trick when I read badly translated story but basically imagine this whole thing being a bunch of aliens disguised as humans who are trying to imitate human culture after seeing a few movies. It makes it make more sense when trying to make the plot make sense gives me a headache. Also, yes I'm that desperate for stories.

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Maybe I'm one of the aliens?

But didn't u say she can sleep with anyone she wanted? Yes she didn't initiated the act but in a way she consented to it. Maybe if she was raped what u said would make more sense

The story is just set in a bad way but when it comes to consent and STD,s the person with a std has to tell you otherwise your consent is not informed/it's based on an invalid premise. If he had an STD and didn't tell her then she would be the victim.

It's also not a case of "maybe it would make more sense" because that maybe implies doubt and if this was a clear rape case then there would be no room for doubt.

Hxhism isn't defending the story, I spoke with them on their topic on this and I made criticisms refering to how she is in an unknown world without questioning things like a sane human being. Hxhism is defending the female lead because people are attacking her for sleeping with that guy despite just meeting him. Overall in a sense she was willing but at the same time she was in a position where she was given little if any choice. I think that the main issue is that the author didn't create a narrative and we legit have no idea about what is going on in the MCs head. She seems to be floating through life without consider anything and I think that this is what we should be focusing on.

(Hxhism correct me if I'm wrong)

How did it end up in STD again? I thought we where figuring out whether s** with a stranger was appropriate or not in her current situation... But, oh well, lets have fun reading

Cuz cyangilmmer brought that up as an argument not to have sex with a stranger

Okay. Let us all end it here.

I post that not to offend anyone. I was really confuse (and a bit curious. The art was great ). I was hoping that someone would actually comment down and explain the whole thing. Like how she got there? Or why her? Because most of the isekaid charas are somehow familiar with the setting or interacted with it back on earth. So, when I saw her comment, I read it. But I was... shock? (I think). She just called me "dumbass". And then, I felt embarass. I thought, maybe, I read or understand the story wrong. So, I went back to the story and re-read it for THIRD time ('cuz I already read it twice. Told you I got confuse ). But after reading it, it's still the same to me and then I saw her post about some commentetors as misogynist. I was offended, really offended. That's just low blow. That's a personal attack.

The tone she use replying in my comment is already offending but I let it slide. Thinking I was on the wrong (excuse my grammar. English isn't my first language). We have a different perspective of the story, I get that. And if you think I'm wrong or said something to offend you, I'm sorry. And for the record, I didn't call her names. I was just questioning why she has to have s** to an unknown man in an unknown world.

Let's just see how the story goes... Si?

Hahaha I just read it too. Though, I think STD wasn't her point

*have...? Why did I pit that there...? Goshh. I'm really sleepy (Time Check 00:00)

Std wasn't my main point, I'm just saying the mc should've been careful and questioned what was going on instead of sleepy with a random stranger

attempting to make the story make sense will just give us all headaches

ya but you used an STD as the main reasoning behind her not having sex with him

Like that lady doesn't think so i wouldn't respect any logic or anything atm

It wasn't a main reason to not having sex with him it was an example. I'm just pointing out that things could've gone much worse for her because she didn't think things through

I don't think that there is much choice here for her. Although I would like for her to use her brain as well

Yeahhh... I mean. Your in a totally foreign land and instead of wondering where you are, she just went with the flow and let an unknown man make a way on you....?

are u even reading what i’m saying? i said in THE case YOU mentioned abt the std, she would still be the victim since she’s the one who got dragged into all of this shit anw. so there’s still no need to blame her/get angry at her for doing the deed even if she did end up catching that disease.

and you’re forgetting that in this world, she’s the one who was summoned forcibly by these ppl into another world so the way u judge her and hold her accountable for the things that are happening to her is just wrong. it’s not like she had much of a choice with all the events that are happening since she never initiated it to begin with.

like i said in another reply, if you’re gonna blame or get angry at someone then blame the male leads. they’re the ones at fault here.

Look what I found in Mr. Google...

❝Can STD be cured?

Bacterial STDs can be cured with antibiotics if treatment begins early enough. Viral STDs cannot be cured, but you can manage symptoms with medications. There is a vaccine against hepatitis B, but it will not help if you already have the disease. ❞

I wonder if there's any update on AIDS...? Gimme a minute... I'll surf down the net...

I was actually checking on NovelUpdate Forum to see any spoilers... To maybe help but I didn't see much there.

what about the male leads? have u ever criticized their tradition of forcibly summoning girls into their world and doing the deed w them during the first night? have u ever questioned why this tradition is so wrong in so many ways? EVEN if its necessary for the reproduction or whatnot in this world, u can’t deny that all the females they summoned are the victims here. can you even imagine how scary that is from a girl’s perspective? imagine living your life happily and just suddenly having all of that taken away from you and u end up in a foreign land suddenly and u are now required to do the deed with the males in that world.

why are u so deadset on criticizing the female lead for ending up in a situation she didnt have much of a choice to be in to begin with?

like... y’all are clearly looking at this situation in the wrong perspective. criticize the ones who forced these girls into this situation. don’t criticize the female lead bc it’s not like they have the power/control in this situation.

So, now your asking my opinion? I thought I'm a "DUMBass" (remember?) and a MISOGYNIST (according to you...) so, yeah...

You are focus in criticizing my own criticism to her while criticizing me. As you said, we have diff. perspective in this story. Don't push your own point of view in mine, 'cuz I'm not you. And not because we see her in the same light as you, you'll call us MISOGYNIST. We are arguing about the character but your so deadset insulting us just because we have diff. stand in this story. You said, it's not the matter of good or bad, then you should know that there is a grey area.

Ohhh... Almost forgot. About the MLs. They summoned girls from another world because there's no female in Elysian. And about the tradition, more like a ritual actually. They needed the females for their converting skill of mana inside their bodies.

We are not condemning her. We are questioning her and her action. You said, there is no choice. Will, hon, there is always a choice even if it seems none.

We are all curious on why would she let the ML have his way on her? You said, she didn't "willingly" agreed. Then, will take it into consideration. But why did she not fight back or just simply ask. She could just ask the ML or the male servants, on why does she have to sleep with him? Why does she have to choose from either the two males? What was happening? Why was she there? But she did not. On Chapter 2, we saw her waking up and a servant came to the room. Okay, we can say she was flustered with all the events from last night, with sudden summoning and sleeping with the ML. And yet, again she DID NOT question what was happening? She act like it was a normal day in her life. She got summoned to another world and her attitude was so passive.

And your right. We are judging her. Criticizing her action and the result maybe positive, negative or impartial. BUT WE ARE NOT CONDEMNING HER. You just made it seem like I'm calling her names, when I didn't. I was commenting about THE STORY while you're fixated on pushing your opinion about her s** life on us.

And, again, we are ARGUING ABOUT THE CHARACTER not me. Yet, you've been attacking me on personal level. Did I call you "DUMBASS"? Do I deserve to be called as a MISOGYNIST?

By the way... I wasn't judging a woman or women, in general. I was judging Yo In-ah, the character. Did I ever pointed fingers in another woman here? As far I know, we are talking about the character, Yo In-ah. Your only pointing that out because that's all you understand from the story so far. Right now, that's the only clear info we have in the story. But even so, you could have atleast(yet again) question the situation she is in.

You want us to understand your point. Okay, we get it. She got summoned from another world that has a dire need for females.

Yes, she is a victim but hey, she's a victim that doesn't seems like a victim. She just went with the flow. No rejection, no wondering why's there or where she is.

She's not in the position to control the situation? Yes, she doesn't but does that mean, she should just be cool with it with what was happening to her?

We are not Criticizing her in "HER SITUATION" but how "SHE HANDLES HER SITUATION". Would it kill her to ask what was happening to her?

We empathise with her. And we understand that she maybe in confusion (although it wasn't shown in the webtoon) with all the sudden events, that is why we are reacting like this. Would you do the same as her? Because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. Okay, let's say the s** part is inevitable, but I would have question it. I would wonder how I get there, why I would have to do that and keep asking until they answer no more. Or maybe, do it AFTER the s**. BUT SHE DOES NEITHER of it. After s**, she just went her way like she was never summon and its a completely normal thing to do.

and what even is your point for saying this? does this even justify their reasoning for forcing these girls like the female lead into that situation?

Will, you asked, didn't you?

FORCING? The other girls may have (but the webtoon didn't show it) but the FL? Does she look force to you? Seems like we are reading a diff. story entirely...

huh?? are you even listening to yourself? wdym there is always a choice even when there’s none??? care to explain on that?

and you’re completely interpreting all my words into smth else. I SAID she doesnt have much of a choice to refer to her situation wherein she got forcibly summoned into another world. AND when did i say she didnt “willingly” agree to the deed??? ive been saying all the time that if she wants to do the deed then let her do it but dont judge her for it or insult her.

and see, you’re still putting even more pressure on the female lead which means you still don’t get my point. you don’t have the right to judge how she reacts to doing the deed/after doing the deed bc IF we take into the account the fact that she was summoned into this world, then she’s the VICTIM here. so anything she does shouldnt be criticized BC SHE DOESNT HAVE MUCH POWER/CONTROL/CHOICE OVER THIS WHOLE SHIT TO BEGIN WITH.

the fact that ure even questioning WHY shes not questioning the events happening to her just means that ure still judging her.

i dont get why ure even bringing that up since im only using that as an example to bring up the female lead’s situation alongside other females who got summoned and ended up in that situation suddenly lmao

I didn't question that because the information is already present. And, don't get me wrong I am not defending the ML's action. I never did and never will. Because sure enough, you'll gonna picked that out and used it against me

Their actions is described on the webtoon already. Did you even read it?

Your mad because I was questioning the FL, so now your cornering for not bringing up the ML's behavior.

The FL's settting is limited almost like a side chara (a chara could even be awesome) and the way she handles her situation is even more intriguing. But, if you look back at the ML's setting, their behavioural pattern could be seen. The way they argue for her is because of necessity. Because, remember? Elysia doesn't have females. They needed her for converging there "estra" to "intra".

Basically, they wanted her as a tool. Although she did capture their attentions.

And yet again, she did not question those action. Why didn't she? Why did just choose without wondering WHY SHE HAS TO CHOOSE?

Will, you did started it by making it sound that I was judging a women in general... When I was solely talking about the chara.

“a victim that doesnt seem like a victim”??? do you know how messed up that even sounds lmao. there’s a term called “victim blaming” look that up. the fact that you even brought that up just means you’re still against the fl for doing the deed.

and like i said in my other reply since u keep repeating your words:
“you don’t have the right to judge how she reacts to doing the deed/after doing the deed or how she handles things bc IF we take into the account the fact that she was summoned into this world, then she’s the VICTIM here. so anything she does shouldnt be criticized BC SHE DOESNT HAVE MUCH POWER/CONTROL/CHOICE OVER THIS WHOLE SHIT TO BEGIN WITH.”

she can react/handle things in whichever way she wants. if she wants to do the deed w/o protesting then let her do it. if she doesn’t want to think abt it afterwards then let her do it as well. it’s a messed up situation and the only one who lost anything in this case is the fl. the least you can do is not criticize her for the way she handles/reacts to things.

and i guess i was too harsh w my insult abt you since idek you to begin with but i was too riled up that day seeing comments criticizing the fl for doing the deed. so sorry for calling you a dumbass, but my point still stands abt this whole argument.

Of course we are judging her. It's her story. It a story and she's the main chara.

VICTIM? of course a WILLING VICTIM is still a victim. My bad, we happen to have a diff. meaning for the word victim here. And by the way, is it mandatory to understand your point? 'Cuz I just said, we have diff. point of view, so stop pushing yours to me. And don't tell me to stop judging them because that's part of the reading experience Whether I will love the chara or not and please, your making it sound that judging is a crime. Have you not judge a chara negatively before that other people adored?

when i said “FORCING into the situation” i meant the general aspect which is them being summoned into that world lol do u think she even wanted to be summoned into that world in the first place? nope.

Same here.

As I said we have diff. judgment of the her situation. We both have own perception of her action. We took it positively and negatively. It just happened that your a PRO and I'm a CON.

I was offended by your words but I didn't hate the argument Seriously. It was actually fun.

idk im just trying to make others see that the female lead is not really at fault here since women, even irl, are always judged for doing the deed in diff cases. like other ppl judging victims and saying why they didnt fight back or why didnt they tell others abt what they’re experiencing. in that case, it essentially reflects whats going in this story since the female lead is getting scrutinized for not questioning whats happening to her or whatnot. yet, the male leads who initiated the act and start this whole mess to begin with end up getting away scotfree and are not even getting scrutinized first and foremost.

and ofc i have judged other characters in the past but im not about to judge a female lead who ended up in an unfamiliar situation and whose only action so far is doing the deed with a stranger.

I know....

Look, I judge her as a character alone. As a person on the book not an actual person. I did that judgment basing from my own perception of things. Because as me, I value my opinion on things. I don't just go shut up and easily agree with things. If the situation is foreign to me or new to the eye, the first thing I would do is to question it. Because I hate regretting my decision, if I decided to do it, I'll own it with responsibility. I like assuring things before doing it. I don't just blindly agree or muting my opinion. With her decision, it made me question is things. Why'd she go with it? Would she got pregnant? Is she sure with this? What about going home? Is she safe? And stuff like that. So, it kinda doesn't sit right with me. Look, I really do understand your point but when I read your reply and comment was really offended. Not because we have diff. perception, you are right or I'm wrong. If you want to debate my opinion, like I said in one of my comments, I was confused with the flow of the story. So, you, sharing your opinions to me is fine, really. I DO UNDERSTAND AND AGREE with you. It's just that you came to strong that you sounded that our opinions were wrong and the worst part is you became to personal.

But seriously it's fine It's informative argument. I was smiling and giddy waiting for the comments. I just didn't comment right away from yesterday 'cuz I really got hurt

yes the short and sweet and not complicated smut

Yahhh