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idk if it's rape but it looks like he is getting revenge by leaving marks everywhere love bites to be specific

It it’s not rape then it’s sexual assault. He was clearly intoxicated

We will find the answer after mumu wakes up and, on how he reacts to the situation. He may or may not complain and these rape and assult is to be decided by mumu. (〜￣△￣)〜

Facts

That’s not how it works you can’t consent after it was done

I am not talking about taking consent afterward.... ok If I imagine i was in the place of mumu, I was angry with my husband, and ignoring his warning of some weird dude, i got drunk with him and my husband came to rescue me and in the morning I was covered with some kiss marks .... would i mind it?.... I think no.... These assults and all really depends upon the situation and how people react upon them, if mumu was done something by other dude than i would consider it assult cause there is no way mumu would ever agree to do anything with him, but here its a little punishment for ignoring his husbands warning. if mumu was really angry in the verge of breaking relationship, or their relationship was really not in the situation of repair, or if mumu was sick and the husband just wanted to satisfy himself without caring for mumu and the guy had done something then I would consider it assult.

Please don't waste your breath after reading all these reply I'm certain no matter what you try they won't understand and pretty sure these are kids or unaware of reality or not being used to have healthy relationships. Smh. Your point is right fyl

Hi, I am same age as yours.. (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Not with that mentality. Clearly your metal age is lower ლ(´ڡ`ლ) I also added something in the last in my previous statement.the last thing probably suits you. Get well soon (▰˘◡˘▰)

No literally I didn’t even reply because the point flew right over their head

what would you say if I say I have never been in a relationship in my life.. (▰˘◡˘▰).

So my point was proved. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

ha ha ha ha (≧∀≦)..... Its nothing but my perspective on this scene based on how close they are and how they love each other. Seme would not hurt uke and uke will just blush upon some kiss marks upon his body...(≧∀≦)

No babe it’s not perspective rape is rape.

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that

ok ok no matter what you say everything depends upon the characters. Thanks. And again its not real life.

I understand this statement, but we don't know if they had sex. In this webcomics even when their shirt is off and one of them is licking the other's chest it is censored.
I am sure u didn't see him having sex with him. Of course the seme is not dumb enough to do that and stop jumping to conclusions. And remember it is fiction.

Then it’s sexual assault? I said in my other comments if it’s not rape it’s sexual assault

that not dumb enough..... exactly my point...

you’re 100% correct!! don’t mind the people disliking your comment... they just don’t have common sense...

Ummmm... I did agree but reading their response to other's opinions is not sitting well with me
Plz read before u make a response

Ok understand

*understandable

dude chill every manhwa/manhua/webtoon got its own toxic parts.

^^^

I don't think that's rape. You can only call it rape if it's against the victims will or if he or she was forced to it. After he woke up he didn't even got angry to his husband. Sex while intoxicated happens between spouses and I don't fully believe that when you're intoxicated you don't know what you're doing I mean come on dude we are not kids here, we know better that when you're wasted you still know what you're doing, you can still recognize the person you are having sex with that's why I don't believe in the words of those cheating men out there who says that they only manage to have sex with other women because they were drunk.

Are you okay? He was out of it he was intoxicated he was barely awake how is that not rape??? You’re trying to defend it by saying it happens between spouses that doesn’t mean it’s still not rape??

Well may I ask you did Mumu got angry nor felt violated? Cause if not that won't be considered as rape. We didn't know if during that time that they were doing it if he's aware or not with what he's doing with his husband like I said when you're wasted you still know what you are doing. If Mumu's character didn't even complained nor got angry nor felt offended and violated in any other ways in the first place because of what happened what right do you have to say that what happened is what you say as it is. Remember no person shall be deprived of liberty nor property without due process of law. You people are already subjecting the person guilty without even checking if the other party felt violated or not. How can you get angry on Mumu's behalf if he himself didn't even think that his husband violated him. If your OWN husband did that to you and you FELT violated then go and file the case and have your OWN husband be labelled as rapist but leave other spouses problem to their own, if Mumu doesn't have any MALICE towards what happened then don't paint black color over the white canvas or you'll just ruin it.

If I got married and I got drunk and my husband make love to me while I'm still drunk do you think I would go to the police station the next morning saying that my husband rape me? Will I ruin my marriage and sent my husband to jail because of that? Of course no! I can talk to him about it the next morning to set things right but I won't label him as rapist just because of that one thing. (Well if just in case my husband did that to me of course, but you people are free to do whatever you think is right to do they are your husbands not mine.)

If you think that's not right then you can just go talk with it to your husband properly and tell him that you don't like it but you won't go around telling him you own husband that he raped you! How do you think will he feel? There are a lot of ways to sit and talk what happened in a peaceful way without calling the other person a rapist just because of that one incident, marriage is not as simple as what you people think.

Like I said after reading what comes after that chapter Mumu didn't feel violated in any other way so how can you even say that he was when he himself didn't. His only problem is the woman who his husband is always with got it?

Well I think it differs in each countries and how they view Marriage, I live in a country where we value marriage if the problem can be discuss properly then we will discuss it peacefully before we assume what the other person did is right or wrong.

I'm sorry if you're not agreeing with me but this is my opinion for that matter. I do respect your opinion so if your husband did that to you, you are free to go to the police station the next morning and file a complain and case against your husband if that's what you think is right no one is stopping you from doing so cause that's your life and your marriage.

Yup it's rape since other person is not aware of what's happening and also he forced him self

I literally just spoke to two of my friends in law school and they said. Even if they don’t feel violated it doesn’t change the fact that it’s marital rape.

Well like I said it is up to the wife/spouse if he or she wanted to file that as a case of rape but may I mind you once they do then it means that their marriage is ruined. That's one of the things a married person needs to consider if it happens only once then both of them can just sit and talk it over made it clear to the other party that he or she didn't like it and if that happens again then go and file the case. It's their married life, also you can't label the person a rapist or the case as a rape unless other wise the court and jury said so or tells that the suspect is guilty without reasonable doubt of the charges filed against him or her or else, he or she remains as a suspect until he or she is proven guilty of charge.

That's why in court both the accuser and being accused are both given the rights to hire their own lawyers to protect them and prove their innocence.

I may not be in law school but in our county we were thought to never finalize anything unless the jury gave its verdict or else the suspect remains just a suspect.

Thats what I am trying to say...... Like if role is reversed, wouldn't I be allowed to kiss my husband in his sleep ? will that be sexual assult aswell.... ???? we love each other so, whats the problem....??? I don't understand these peoples mindset sometimes at all. （/TДT)/

Rape in general by the person where there cannot be any sexual relationship with victim is simple to understand it doesn't depend upon how rapist or victim feel, it is a rape no matter what.

But in marriage there is a thin line on how sexual activity could turn to marital rape , it depends upon how sexually adventurous couple is.... for me I wouldn't mind if my husband wants me any time.. because I am horny all the time and will happily accept the offer. But if i am seriously ill and the man came only to satisfy himself ignoring my health and my willingness, or if we are in verge of separation and we cant stand each other any more, i am disgusted by him and he forces me to have sex and use his physical power or drugs me then it will be marital rape for me.

So it depends upon the feeling.

Yes exactly marriage is ruined after that... how can two love and live together after bringing out the topic of rape and assult.

Dude, you are 100% wrong. Clear consent CANNOT be obtained when someone is under the influence of alcohol or drugs. It does not matter if they are married or not. If someone is clearly drunk to the point of barely reacting to such events shown in said chapter, they can’t and did not give consent legally giving them the right to start a criminal investigation. PLEASE learn this before you make this mistake and possibly destroy your life.

Ok I will repeat again and again since married life if a very complicated thing if a person think his spouse had wronged him sexually then again he can file the case next morning, he can file rape against his husband that's his right and he can do that but here comes the big but if you don't see the bigger picture here once he do that then their marriage will surely be ruined that's one of the consequences of that action. We are not talking about some simple relationship here, if they could talk peacefully about it and bring things to light then one can forgive that person and start a new again but if he or she thinks it's too much then that person can file a case next morning that's his right. Also have you seen the whole scene yourself? People tend to sober up as time passes by and we don't know for sure that if in the middle of it if he comes to his senses and let his husband made love to him with CONSENT or NOT! That's the point you people have been missing all this time. Once you file this a case the court and jury will scrutinized it in every possible way to make sure that the allegations are right. Thus unless otherwise the court give its verdict that the Suspect who allegedly raped his husband then the suspect remains just a suspect and not be branded as a rapist till then. That's why everyone is given the EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAW to protect themselves. Until proven innocent or guilty I repeat the suspect remains as a suspect.


Again if you think you're husband or wife wronged you sexually then you are free to file rape case against that person that's your right but also remember that come with that is the destruction of your married life.

I don't know of all the things that I have said the only thing you people read is the drunk part. I'm done with this thread, I'm sorry there's no sense in presenting other possibilities to you people you are just so close minded. I do get your point about being drunk what I'm saying is the bigger picture that comes afterwards cause it doesn't seem to me that Mumu is so willing to take this incident to the court and accuse his husband of raping. You think being married is as simple as that? You must take everything to consideration before making the decision cause it will mean ending the relationship for good.

I REPEAT IF YOU THINK YOUR SPOUSE WRONGED YOU SEXUALLY THEN GO FILE A CASE NEXT MORNING NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM DOING SO NOT ME OR ANYONE IN THIS WORLD FOR THAT MATTER.

MY GOSH I'M SO DONE WITH THIS THREAD THIS IS GOING NOWHERE. The character didn't even file a case, he didn't even confronted his husband and most of all he didn't even accused him of raping him that night, I just don't see why you people are feeling so agitated about it, they seem like a happily married couple who are having problem because of some woman. Can't you just be happy for them if both of them are happy? Do you guys really wanted to see their relationship get ruin that much? Are you that happy to see some broken marriages for things that can be talked about peacefully if it only happens the first time and that Mumu didn't even thought he was violated?

I respect all of you guys opinions like I said previously, I'm just sharing my thoughts in the perspective of an adult and I hope you guys will be able to respect it too. If you can't accept it then that's fine and if you will be able to understand what I'm trying to say then it's ok. Just take it to consideration that all accusations will all just be allegations unless otherwise a verdict is given by the court that indeed the suspect is guilty or not.

You’re literally typing all this for what. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s marital rape. Just because someone doesn’t feel violated doesn’t mean they weren’t raped.

Ok then he can file the rape case against his husband the next day. That's his right and his life. It is as simple as that.

I’m genuinely concerned for your love life

No need to personally get concerned for my life I can handle it just fine, I don't drink, smoke or doesn't have any vices and I know my rights all l too well, thank you for the concern though.

Ahh I think there are some people who understands it thank god

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE GET IT!

It is RAPE but I honestly dont care as long as mumu doesn't feel violated,hurt or have a mental damage by his husband's action. As long as his fine with it then it's fine with me too.
(That's just my perspective)
Imma kill his husband if Mumu gonna cry coz of what he did :3

Yeah ik, RAPE WILL NEVER BE RIGHT.
But as long as mumu consider its fine, then its fine for me too. That's his decision :)

I think everyone that is speaking about rape and sexual assault is missing the big point... IT IS FICTION!
We don't know what happened after they woke up so you shouldn't label it.
Clearly, some of you don't understand that people have their opinions and you can't argue with them.
Another thing, even though it would label as rape or sexuality assault it is up to the person to take action. Whether to talk it out or seek justice.
In the manga we don't see that. So how is it that many of you in this comment section are labelling something you might not know that happen.
Many of you assume things too much instead of thinking it through and come up with other theories.
MY THEORIES/OPINIONS is that the seme gave the uke kisses on his neck then stop. Put on clean clothes and tucked him to bed. When the uke wakes up and see them he would talk about it to him. OR, in many mangas I read that contains something I call "drunk consent", when a person begs another person for sex and they may or may not remember it the next day. The uke might have gave the seme a " drunk consent" after the kisses the seme left on his neck. And the next day he remembers it but acts like nothing happened, but still want and explanation between him and the woman.
Please remember this is my theories and opinions. And also remember it is fiction.

I understand what you’re saying but please don’t do this in real life. Drunk consent is not a thing

Oh I am not. I am not that dumb, but some ppl are. I am just saying to remember this is fiction and just be careful in real life and make the right decisions, that's all.

idk their names but basically they both want yu (the mute guy) and his looking for his mother, the guy with the blue on told his men to kill everyone in that prison not knowing that yu mother was in there and the guy with the brown on knew that his mother was in there but didn’t know she wasn’t going to get killed

So both guys are fighting for YU because he has something they want from him but in order for YU to tell them that secret they use him (so they create a plan for him to spill the beans) but YU only want to runaway with his mother and live a peaceful life

Yes! Its such a headache. Yahwi didn't even realize that it all started because he denied Jooin in front of their classmates and he's acting like this!? We need a third guy Hmmph!!!

I haven’t please spoil it for me

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Its a gift from nian mother..and thats the only thing that bastard have when nian nian save him

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And the ring that he was talking about was actually fake since shen took the real one without him knowing

Ugh I just saw it on this new chapter I hateee that asshole seme. Thank youuu