Art was great, story was nice though I wish the seme suffered a little more haha.
@ the readers whining about the rape
If you can't handle reading fiction without it affecting your moral values, you shouldn't be allowed to consume fiction let alone be old enough to read BL. It's common sense to know what's right and wrong, but it seems some readers just lack that ability.
Sound like you enjoy it to me like oh it's fine to like rape fiction as long as it's not in real life like not liking how it's normalised in bl an seeing it and how much it shows up is fucking NORMAL please seek help you messed up mf also where do you get off telling people they are and aren't old enough to be reading bl it seems your the one who need to grow up so not liking rape makes you immature be fucking forreal it's giving fetishiser
Not to mention it's not about messing up your moral values it's about not wanting to see or read something so horrible and like a normal person being upset or disturbed from seeing something like that but unfortunately every manga you go to nowadays has it because it's beeing sooo normalised and yes it's their choice to read it but that doesn't mean they can't be upset especially when they aren't expecting rape literally in every chapter plus a shitty end
And last thing it's normal to complain or express dislike or as you said "whine" about there being rape because guess what it's not something you should think is okay or normal or enjoy liiiike regardless of if it's in fiction which you clearly do since people disliking rape bothers you so much which is weird as hellll anyways have a great day xxx
Wow, you need 3 replies to make your point?
Tldr
Westerners who can't separate reality and fiction and reads for free: *whines about rape for the millionth time instead of moving on to read stories they actually enjoy*
Japanese readers that buy the book to support the author: Praises how nice the art is. Some finds the characters cute and some finds valid and polite critism with "not my taste but I gave it a try"
nah you don’t slap the “can’t separate fiction from reality” argument on the table when people rightfully voice their dislike for the blatant overuse of the rape-to-relationship trope in yaoi because that’s literally not the point we’re trying to make.
I actually can because of you're not old enough that you can't separate reality from fiction, then you're not old enough to read it in the first place.
Yeah fr. I'm getting tired of these westerners. I mean I can agree that plot like this is trash, but I won't complain. It's the authors decision to create what they want. Who are we to demand them? Also we are even reading this illegally lol
I gotta agree with you in that one , people should differential between fiction and reality if you can't don't even read yaoi at all since yaoi don't represent real gay relationship it made by women for women for enjoyment....
Ikr.. Thats what i've been saying.. It was all a fiction... No need to get worked up about it.
EXACTLY. I had so many haters coming at me cuz they're moralists. And I'm like, we're on a yaoi site and (it's also il**gal) so like just take a step back y'all. It ain't represent of real life.
y’all just don’t want to be judged for enjoying disgusting shit, that’s so cute. like, be for fucking real
They wanna cherish their last drop of morality by being all righteous on this site lol it makes me laugh so fuckin hard sometimes
Daanm.. Burn them so hard lol..
Do you even realize that yaoi without rape is still disgusting? Yaoi fetishizes gay ppl so you're not better by enjoying the ones without rape lmao
that might just be the most mental take i’ve seen in a long time. get well soon
Excuse me. When did I ever say I "enjoy" it?!? I'm talking about ppl like u moralizing the SHIT out of things. Get out of my face.
Burn them w/ til the last fucking drop. Since like let's say ten, fifteen ppl come at your for YOUR OWN comment. When they could just make their OWN comment. 10 against one ain't fair. So the fight gotta be STRONGER. Plus, they're attacking your morals because APPARENTLY THEY THINK REAL LIFE MORALS CARRIES OVER INTO FICTION. Gets All-sel-righteous and some how THEY THEMSELVES don't see that this is fiction and our values irl does not carry over into fiction and vice versa. So yes, the argument that this is fiction still stands. What dumb asses.
Excuse me but WHO ARE YOU to be judging other ppl on what they LIKE or DON'T like. Wtf are you DOING ON THIS SITE AND READING THE VERY SAME THING YOU'RE HYPOCRITICALLY WAXING AHOUT?!? AND NO. IT DOES NOT "FETISHIZES gay ppl". Since WHEN did yaoi fetishes gay ppl?!? HOW did you EVER COME to THAT conclusion?!? If you're gay and you read straight romance fiction does that make you a "fetishizer of straight ppl"?!? Are you DELUSIONAL or WHAT?!?
@Tenmanyashiki - I am Asian but live in the West. I respectfully disagree about the Westerner/Easterner bias. And no, not everyone, including myself, does NOT support the authors. A few things here. First of all, authors write for themselves. It's a work of art. And secondly, though-by-no-means ANY LESS, as a means of living, whether as a primary or secondary source of income. If the former, then the audience is whomever likes such things and won't complain about them. <<<--- so creativity for self. The latter are the ones that likes them and will buy them to support the author. <<<--- creativity for others (for the purpose of supporting oneself) OR as a byproduct of creativity for self that is ALSO enjoyable for others that they will support the work whether by reading for free or actively contributing to the creators credit. Or for me, I don't like it, but I read if I can stomach it. It also depends on how well it's done and how much of the r**e aspect is carried out. By that I mean if it's done in a way that is too distastefull or too cruel to stomach, then I will stop reading or supporting the author. So there are ppl who are ok with it (to some degree) who don't say anything. Then there are those who enjoy and support the work or cries for more. I don't like it but I won't get all upset about it - ofc within reason as stated above. And then there are those STRANGE creatures who CRIES about it and denounces it as if ppl who DO enjoy them are amoralists. That just BLOWS my MIND.
And for those who responded to me. You know who you are. The self-righteous criers and denouncers, who camp here week after week thinking they do good deeds by railing against the works as if it's their GREAT LIFE purpose. . Get a life. Rape is distasteful, but why do ppl's tastes affect you so much?!? It's not your cup-of-tea so why are you READING IT?!? You're secretly enjoying this aren't you?!? Why ELSE would you be reading it?!? Blows my mind. I mean if you don't like yaoi don't read it?!? If you don't like rape, don't read it?!? And as many ppl have pointed out, there's plenty of r**e in straight romances too. How are you not bringing THAT up?!? Morally self-righteous assholes should get off this site. Seriously.
Yall actually believe that yaoi is "just romance" Are you also gonna say that porn is just romance? Lol
I agree that shonen ai bl is just romance, but yaoi is not. It's clearly has sex scenes in it which isn't necessary for romance.
Porn can or cannot be romance depending on what was written into it. Porn w/ plot (as some ppl have said). Or porn without plot. Romance can have a lot of explicit scenes. Adult content. Or it can be Shounen Ai, or adult content with censored aspects of porn or sex scenes. If you believe yaoi is just purely porn, then that's all on you. Yaoi is more explicit and involves sex scenes. Some story dwells on it and others focus more on the story.
How is sex scenes not necessary for romance?!? You mean to say ppl don't have sex?!? Like just all fluff and no physical contact?!? What is this?!? The Victorian era?!?
I correct myself. Romance isn't all about fluff. It can be psychological manipulations too. If there is no physical coercion there can be blackmail or putting ppl down. A different kind of manipulation. Of the mind rather than the body. But yes, romance can include sex scenes. Idk what you're reading. But the lines between love making and rape is a fine line. And how much sex is a focus of the story.
Psychological manipulations, threats, kidnapping, torture, verbal/physical abuse, lock-ups. Stuff of mature content. It doesn't HAVE to be yaoi. That kind of dark romance.
Anyways, this conversation is going off topic. We were just discussing if ra** is an issue for some ppl and I don't know why we're discuss wether yaoi is porn or not. I'm done with this discussion.
Bruh if this is a straight story romance with the same set up nobody would complain.. only complain when its the gay stuff..
As long as nobody is hurt, why bother complaining and ruin other people enjoyment?
If you dissatisfied with the content, why dont you just... Idk, leave and move on?
Is it just me who ships Yawhi and Cain's little brother?
Cain is the youngest brother
Typo but I mean the one that gave the medical supplies to Cain.
Yeah he looks too cute to be older
That was soooo hot. Makes me wonder if the uke is a virgin both ways.
Laughs @ the readers who whine about "muh consent" go read the fucking Bible or some shit.
Her and the kids dad have chemistry. Could be a crush but
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/79329883
Ooooo
I really hope Caj leaves so Jooin will now how good he had it compared to the times he had with Yawhi.
I ahte how the author is like "development between Cains and Jooin for season 2" but all we had was shit development I don't care for of Yawhi and Joooin.
Seriously hope the reason we are getting thus back and forth Yawhi and Jooin development that is literally leading to nothing once again is resolved first BECAUSE we are getting Cain and Jooin development right after.
Cain has loved Jooin for DECADES and wants Jooin to be happy. Even though he has loved Jooin for far longer than Yawhi, he puts Jooin's happiness above his own. Even though he has been waiting for years and years to be with Jooin, he never forces Jooin to accept his affection.
The uploaders have every right to do whatever they want cause they actually buy the fucking chapters. Who cares what if they try to claim what they want to upload? Don't act like you're better than them when you leech off of them
Loool this author and her fetish with guys with vaginas. Art is nice and story is fine but I had enough of that trope in their other story "Boy meets Girl" so I'm prob gonna skip this one.