Miko's Topics (642)

how ??? if that’s what sunwon asked for??

He’ll always be rapist even if sunwon consented to the sex this time

Thats called being groomed and manipulated by trauma hunty, thats called dub con love pls dont embarrass yourself

if we talk about grooming, Mc literally groomed everyone under the pretense of worship-

Agreed

So youre completely forgetting the fact that mc got shipped off to a different dimension and he HAD to do that cuz either that or die. But yeah idont care what you think, you have your pov. I wasnt talking about mc or his manipulative ways, but sure, way to go with that red herring fallacy shit in my topic about vercion.
Tl;dr nobody asked, go f yourself

You know, it's not like I disagree that Vercion is shit lmao

I just want to straighten some facts.

I think you're forgetting that Mc doesn't really need to instigate sexual schemes in order to survive?

Are you forgetting that he groomed them because he was sexually frustrated? not because it was a must that he had to do in order to survive. It was explicitly shown that mc wants to fuck.

Also, I don't think you should be using thr word "Grooming" without having a full grasp of what it really meant and randomly throwing the word around. You aren't a child who picked up new word and uses it every opportunity you see.


Vercion didn't "GROOM" mc, it was vercion and the rest who are groomed because mc coerced them to do sexual acts under the pretense of worship. Mc didn't need to make the worship about sex, but he had to, why? he wants to

Grooming is when you build trust and attachment in order to manipulate a child or an adult to perform sexual deeds. That's what mc did.

Did Vercion do that? he didn't, All he did was do what his "god" wanted and became addicted in the process

So yes, Vercion is a rapist. Mc is a groomer and a rapist too

where did the manipulation regarding sex started? With MC. I agree that manipulation is something that mc needed to do, but does mc need to coerce them with sex? No he doesn't need to, he can pretend to be their god without making them believe that worship is sex.

Tbh I'm just irked seeing you use a word without using it properly and be a bitch to someone haha.

cuz ya look like you wanna be savage so much, but you do you-- go off with your high sense of superiority complex and keep on shitting others because that's what you're good at

Also i can't believe you used the word fallacy Where tf is the fallacy?? that mc is manipulative and a groomer? but that's def not a fallacy. Go read back the story

MF, as the person above stated , mc ALSO did horrible things, one thing doesn't change the other. I swear, people have completely unlearned the power of a point of view AND of critical consumption.
Vercion is a rapist, no doubt, but the fact that Mc got "shipped off to a different dimension" doesn't excuse the fact that he deliberately created an environment I'm which sex (which, may I remind you, he wanted for himself at the very beginning) was encouraged by who the people of this foreign land (that was DESPERATE for a miracle) think is their god, how is that not a fucked up thing to do?
We don't pay much mind to it because A- In the end this is just a comic, things don't need to follow a normal moral compass and B- We are reading this though MC's pov, of fucking course it isn't framed as depraved because MC doesn't see it as depraved.
"Nobody asked" YOU asked by opening the discussion to others to reply, and if no one asked then let it be us who do.

I aint reading all that certified yapper you win go take your fuck off trophy from my ass

Womp womp

Aww, honey, your response makes it clear you aren't old and/or mature to even read this comic in the first place, maybe stick with kids shows next time? ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

i mean… i assure you consensual sex with adults who were taught its worship is different than harsh sexual violence and rape. no one is denying otherwise… op can criticize both characters but the focus is the priest. religious manipulation after a forced isekai is not just as horrible than extremely violent rape (within this context)

calling suwon a rapist is such a reach though… oh god because now you’re misusing that term when it’s sex that’s been coerced or forced

Sorry, you're right-- I used the wrong word, it shouldn't be coercion since there's no violence and threats but simply grooming--

You know its still grooming right? it happens in religious places too— Priests who grooms believers regardless of age? and then calling it a part of religious practices? it used to happen around our village

so like, Sunwon is a rapist- He did groom them. These are believers who would follow their god based on blind trust, Sunwon did took advantage of that and for a clear reason

victims of grooming have blind trust after getting attached and manipulated


and i get the focus is the priest at first, but Op did defend sunwon afterwards, so it's no longrr about the priest-

And i still do think vercion is a rapist himself

no yea i didn’t disagree with him being a groomer. but wanted to educate that he’s not a rapist + imo his actions aren’t as terrible as a consistently violent rapist. he should still be criticized just not compared to how awful vercion

but… no it’s not rape that’s plain grooming. i get that it exists in a vacuum but rape is fully about consent vs him misleading them about worship where they had room to decline. if we still disagree then we can leave this argument as is but the point still stands that rape = coercion or use of force

Ohh, I see
Then i agree, thanks for clarifying that

Why tf are you being such a bitch, and how tf would he die from not having sex like what???

Genshin fans when they lose 50/50 so they have to make everyone miserable

i think op was talking about how vercion forced mc and was threatening his life if he declined. not how he needs sex as a necessity

Pls dont tell them they really need to bring how mc is as equally worse here just to justify vercions rape. I cant believe i would see rape apologists here in this forum but oh well nothing surprises me.
Me : "vercion rapist"
Wild dogs: "no mc is groomer"
Me: "uhh okay that wasnt the point here tho"
Wild dogs : "mc bad, youre a bitch"
Me: "you completely derailed from my comment but okay"

Honey you wouldnt believe how ive never lost 50-50 bcz im gods favourite child. Go project your own losses with someone whos as equally a loser as you.

No really also go back to elementary school bcz you clearly lack reading comprehension. At the starting mc literally had no way of getting out of being persecuted by arboria if he didnt con people into having sex with him. I havent once said what he did was correct but you apes keep jumping at me with your lack of reading skills and your own projection of real world morality and you know what, i dont feel like you all are worth my time anymore. So im muting this. If calling me slurs can make your pitiful bleak lives feel a little relieved, by all means do so. I'll happily oblige. Calling me names wont get you the happiness you so desperately long for. Byee

You definitely ain’t god’s fav child if you on this website and you play Genshin impact but okayyy

He wasn’t going to be persecuted are you fucking stupid. I was agreeing with you until you started projecting your own insecurities onto everyone because someone question what you said lmfao. “Everyone is calling me slurs” shut your bitch ass tf up

Are you sure you're old enough to be here? Childish much

i agree with this, the topic focused on vercion and deserved attention for it alone. but then it turned into a heated debate over something that’s pure personal opinion and some misinformation. tbh i don’t blame you for being aggressive because it felt a bit victim blamey for why suwon was raped

it wasn’t that serious until it became a weird “more righteous than thou” battle

THANK YOU

the people here are clearly devoid of a sense of morality and they have no idea about how abuse-abuser dynamics work. sunwon clearly has rape trauma and he has turned into a nymphomaniac bcz he cant separate familiarity from abuse. well, i dont think its that deep but i say this bcz the author clearly showed that sunwon familiarized vercions aggressions with his ex's abuse and he thinks he's deserving of every bad things
Sunwon isnt a saint (no fr tho) . his ways of conning the nation into having sex with him is another discussion. i didnt expect people to jump at me calling vercion a rapist for who actually is. yeah it was actually a light banter but i really lost it when they think sunwons antics have anything to do with him being raped. its like irl where people keep finding faults with the victims when they should be focused on the abuser. ive had enough of rape apologists in my lifetime i cant be bothered by them in a piracy forum

Tell me when did I ever say mc was equally as bad as Vercion??

Same. The wound is there ╥﹏╥

Its fine. Its hard to draw everything with a deadline. I say its a given as most do the same to finish quickly and fast for us readers who are waiting.

Normally the fl would give into the mls persistence EVENTUALLY. All the fls rejecting usually don’t give in, in one day lmao. Most of the time they do after a certain amount of time

no because why am i getting emotional for you i should not be feeling this way over some person in mangago comments

I'm sad to find out that researchers don't make enough to be on legal sites but I'm still rooting for the both of y'all in all your medical research

I'm sad to find out that researchers don't make enough to be on legal sites

Oh man dont be. We all grew up with ken and kirara lmao. Those two angsty teens cant ever seem to make up