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I was just about to comment this same thing. What jaekyung has going for himself is that he plays fair and with his effort alone. Although he’s a huge jerk, he doesn’t deserve this foul play

Having rough sex before a match for his jinx is kind of dirty

Rape by coercion is even dirtier

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impersonating

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HAHAHA frrrr, it felt groomy and the uke didn't know they weren't blood

It's not grooming because Sooha is an adult. He was 20 when he went to Haewon's, and they're not related by blood so what does it matter? They have a decade age gap (which is too much for me personally, but works for some), and don't know how to communicate with one another, but Sooha approached Haewon first and Haewon didn't even really try to show affection or interest in him in the beginning apart from pity because he was Haeyoung's son and she was abandoning him for the 2nd time. He even tried to keep his other relationship with that woman going for quite some time. But Sooha did the seducing, not Haewon. And they're both consenting adults with not a drop of blood between them, so being related by marriage doesn't really mean anything. At least not when thought about rationally and objectively. Just my opinion, though.╮(￣▽￣)╭

just wanted to say that adults can absolutely be groomed. age gap grooming is definitely the most common but grooming itself does not have anything to do with age. it’s long term manipulation towards a person to turn them into a specific kind of person, like a romantic or sexual partner. even people the same age can groom each other. but i agree it’s not grooming here, but not bc of his age. :)

Under the eyes of the law, grooming is only applied to minors. Just as "molestation" is. You can manipulate and take advantage of a gullible person, but it's not considered "grooming". I agree wholly that adults can be taken advantage of. I've met quite a few, but it's not the same thing as grooming a child. I was just pointing that out. People have a tendency to overuse, misuse and abuse words nowadays. (Words like "toxic", "sociopath", "gaslighting", etc.) It just irks me. I don't mean any malice by it.
But, yeah. I really don't think this is manipulative or anything here. They made choices as adults. There is lying (even lying by omission), distrust and some emotional abuse (on the part of are uke, because he used suicide as a way to get back on the seme [even though I know he was suicidal prior]). Just a whole mess, but grooming. Just no damn communication. Lol

not everything is judged by the specificity of a law. adults can absolutely be groomed. manipulation and grooming are not the same thing but i’m not talking about just manipulation. i used the word correctly.

The term "grooming" in the way you're using it was coined specifically for law purposes to describe instances where children/minors are manipulated and taught to perceive or accept things in a certain manner that may be potentially harmful to them physically or mentally, classifying abuse. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, or start an argument, but that's the literal definition in application to the circumstances it's being used in here. In turn, it's being used incorrectly.

Except that's the actual literal definition of grooming. Grooming refers to an adult manipulating a child. Stop misusing the word just to stand on your moral high ground when it doesn't even apply to the scenario.

moral high ground? lol

yes i understand how the word grooming is used in context to the law specifying abuse towards minors. that doesn’t automatically make what i described previously an incorrect way to use it. grooming is literally manipulating or training a person to be a specific kind of person or to fit a specific role. i don’t see how that doesn’t apply. and i don’t think you sound rude or argumentative at all so no worries!