coughee's Topics (402)

Lol me too... Chika is cute but fuckboys
like ryo in reality they are disgusting.

He's not choosing her he just felt bad since Sarah has a weak heart

i knoww :(
its just our ian is feeling left out suddenlyyy and im pitying him too huhuhu

Agree

ngl u ate that

It's the HATERS that keeps this mahnwa running LOVEzrS are just bunch a few lol

no way, i would definitely gatekeep this manhwa if it wasn't this famous. (▰˘◡˘▰)

I hate it but I sure enjoy reading it because I find the soap opera level writing so bad it turns around to be funny.

The only thing I'm legit a bit mad about is that it is way more popular than BLs that are amazing but only get a fraction of popularity that Jinx has even though Jinx is hella standard when it comes to BLs

It's definitely because of mingwa's success from BJ Alex and her talent. Imagine making such a toxic cliche manhwa but still on the top? It's all the author's luck and hardwork for sure.

And yeah, this kind of story is indeed the standard. We can't do anything about that. People have been hating cliche stories all the time but somehow secretly likes it. lol

I mean hey good for Mingwa go get that bag, I may criticize her on her story writing but you are right. Just wish some other creators got the same limelight tho

And eh with cliches ot depends on what they are and how they are done and I don't think they are done great in Jinx personally

No. It is the haters that runs the comments here. But if you look it is 73.2% for 5 stars. The haters are just louder here. If you go to other siter.. *cough* Legal sites* there are more that loves this manhwa. There are more lovers than haters.

Her success from BJ Alex would not last 43 chapters. Yes, you are right but it is wrong too. Many would have dropped if it was just the success of BJ Alex.
Now her talent and hard work would last over 43 chapters.
It has been standard. Hopefully, she will change that. I wished there were a few things clearer to people. She is revealing things in chapter 21 or something when she should had put it in the first chapter.

To honestly answer your question I didn’t hate it when I started reading it. I’m pretty sure I binged it tbh. The stale plot and character development especially Jaekyung being so fucking terrible is what made me start hating it but I feel like I’m too far in to drop it. Lmao

its fine for me though? and if u read comments of koreans in the raws, i think they're kind of supportive abt mingwa's pacing with her stories. also, it'll be too predictable if she reveals things in the first chapter. she knows what she's doing. its just some readers are very eager for the development so they are hating on every chapter. mingwa said that this is going to be a slow burn story so it's literally for patient readers ╮(￣▽￣)╭

honey, there are many more toxic seme in the bl world. Jaekyung is not that bad compared to other toxic seme's i know. plus we don't know his POV yet so lets wait if we're gonna continue hating him lol

Oh! You took a different perspective than I meant. In the way you understood it - you are correct. What I said was not referring to the pacing or anything like that.
What I meant there is a few things she needed to explain before they had sex the first time. If that was mentioned many people would not consider this rape. But they want to dismiss the information to keep their false accusations.
With or without these details it is clear it is not rape. They would just understood better, if they care to understand. They would understand it is not Stockholm Syndrome either.


I have not read any Korean comments but my friends have but you don’t have to read comments in Korean to find those comments. You can go to other places that seems supportive than here.
Some haters are due to eagerness

I don’t know why many people makes him the worst toxic seme when (as my friend says it), he is on the shallow end.
We do have some of his pov but not enough. However, people are still going to hate him.

Sweetie I’ve been reading this style of work for a while. I’m quite aware of the seems that exist in the genre. You asked a question and I answered if. Don’t know what else you want.

*semes

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i wasn't tryna argue with u girl but ok. thanks for answering ig? (●'◡'●)ﾉ

oh yeah i agree. dan and jaekyung had a deal and ppl still take it as r@pe. but we cant blame them coz dan is unhappy with the seggs so it'll look like that. i kinda dont like it too but the plot is interesting to me along with jk's mysterious character. but im fine with how mingwa revealed anything tho, i like mystery and angst

I mean, Dan on multiple ocassions said no or stop with the addition of being in pain/discomfort, like that pretty much is an example rape no matter how you twist it, even if it is a deal in a more realistic circumstance a person should care more abt their partner's well-being and consent...

I'm not saying you shouldn't read it and/or you are a bad person cuz of it (hell read whatever you want idc) but saying it's not rape is very much wrong
And for the love of the gods, I am not the moral police like some of the wining people in the comments, just stating what is on paper, read whatever you want geniunly

dan knew about their deal and WHO is he about to deal with. he knew what kind of a bad person he is. if i fuck sum1 or let them fuck me for the money that i need so bad, do u think i like it too? duh. ofc id say no or stop but im in need so I'll ignore all the consequences. im aware how he's unhappy abt it like saying no multiple times or whatever, i even said that i dont like it too? im actually pitying dan and i also understand him but what can i do? it's his decision.

dan gave jk consent. it's a deal for fck's sake. forced or not, it was already his decision in the first place. dan is an adult, he decided to be put in that situation. ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ

dan gave jk consent. it's a deal for fck's sake. forced or not, it was already his decision in the first place. dan is an adult, he decided to be put in that situation. ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ

No actually this thing is different they agreed for sex . But there's this basic decency a person needs to have when their partner is telling them to stop they should stop. Yes if this is a repetitive thing Jaekyung could have told Dan not to do that or simply asked him to use that front door .
But to keep going even when you're told not to is too much.

This is cherry-picking and exaggerating. Dan did say no and stop but read the next line or the whole scene.
This is not an example of rape no matter how you twist it. Please learn what rape is.

"I'm not saying you shouldn't read it and/or you are a bad person cuz of it (hell read whatever you want idc) but saying it's not rape is very much wrong" This is forcing your false narrative. Saying it is not rape = understanding rape and the story.
There is no rape in Jinx.
You are adding rape.



With that being said... Sexual assault and Sexual coercion are not rape. Rape is sexual assault but not all of the sexual assault is rape. https://florinroebig.com/sexual-assault-guide/. 




Rape is a form of sexual assault. However, not all forms of sexual assault will be considered


Jinx is non-consensual at times but it is not rape.

It is sexual assault.
It is sexual coercion, which is not rape but sexual assault. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion#examples

Jaekyung is a sexual abuser he is not a rapist.


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https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/nonconsensual
https://academicaffairs.syracuse.edu/faculty-affairs/policies-and-procedures/faculty-manual/4-2-sexual-activity-non-consensual/

". The University will not tolerate rape, sexual assault, or other forms of sexual violence or nonconsensual sexual activity."


A university separating rape and nonconsensual


Any actual or attempted nonconsensual sexual activity including, but not limited to: sexual intercourse, or sexual touching, committed without physical force, coercion, threat, or intimidation; exhibitionism or sexual language of a threatening nature by a person(s) known or unknown to the victim."
Sexual touching is non con.

https://legalvoice.org/nonconsensual-pornography/
“Nonconsensual pornography” is when a sexually graphic image of you is shared without your consent.

https://www.youthpower.org/youthpower-issues/topics/non-consensual-sex
Non-consensual sex takes many forms, including forced sex, transactional sex, cross-generational sex, unwanted touch, and molestation.


Jinx is non-con (transactional sex) but it is not rape.

If you are meaning non-con for only rape then Jinx is not non-con. If you consider Jaekyung a rapist then with those terms everyone in real life would be in trouble and paranoid. Jaekyung is not a mind-reader.


While this is true " even if it is a deal in a more realistic circumstance a person should care more abt their partner's well-being and consent..." You are dismissing the story, Jaekyung's actions, and both of their characters.

Bro that still doesn't erase that it's sexual assault/abuse and putting most blame on Dan sure is a choice...
Yeah it's a deal but not only is it out of desperation but the other person doesn't have any respect for you, like you'd still feel violated by that

I'm not even sure why you are so big on trying to defend that point of the story just take it as it is, seperate the real world from fiction and move on reading it instead of deluding yourself into believing that it's not rape

Your typa thought process is actually really dangerous in a real world context, learn to seperate irl from fiction my goodness

I had a message to this but my browser crashed and i have to write it over again.
It is more than just the deal.
people still take it as rape but after 43 they shouldn't after understanding Dan better. I can understand getting that on the first read or first impression but rape is not in jinx.
Dan is not really unhappy with the sex. I will explain. I just have to write it in word or something so I don't lose it again.
Just letting you know you are not alone. Many people know this is not rape and love the mystery and angst. They do love the slow burn.

Not all stops mean stop.
Not all no means no.

in their first time, you do realize Jaekyung did stop, right? Jaekyung told him to leave twice too. Maybe, Jaekyung understands Dan more than you do.
Learn more about sex and how messy it is.

There is a study, but I can't find it at the moment. I have posted it on this page. I think it said 33%? of women reported they said stop during sex when they still wanted to continue.

33% right? There's still 67% you're forgetting lol
Jaekyung understand shit . I have eyeballs thank you.
Sex should be mutual , even BDSM has safeword , that's the basis crux.

"33% right? There's still 67% you're forgetting lol"
Not an irreverent point. lol. You missed the point and it was broken down in more groups. Focus on that 33%

I think you should replace Jaekyung with your name. You have eyeballs but can you understand what you read?

https://www.lascivity.co.uk/do-i-need-a-safeword-guide-to-safewords-in-bdsm/

Well… no. You don’t always need to agree a safeword in advance with your partner, even when doing serious kinky stuff. Why? Well, primarily because in most cases there are dozens of pre-made safewords that should stop a scene if uttered. These might include:


Please grow up. Can you have a civil conversation?

if you have "eyeballs" You would realize sex was more mutual than how you are presenting it.

Jaekyung understand shit.
Money made it 'mutual' . Thankyou. #i'm civil lol

No money did not make it “mutual”. If you were civil you would not had wrote that.

It is not about their deal or the money.


This survey found that 39.3 percent of the female undergraduates surveyed sometimes said no, although they "had every intention to and were willing to engage in sexual intercourse."



https://scholarship.law.vanderbilt.edu/vlr/vol58/iss4/5/#:~:text=This%20survey%20found%20that%2039.3,cite%20them%20as%20evidence%20that


No to sex means no.
Some noes are they feel good or other reasons.

The story of Jinx shows Jaekyung does understand a lot and more about Dan than you are giving him credit for.

Dan gave consent to JK mean times and the deal was not forced. Jk never really forced Dan into having sex with him but he does use sexual coercion (sexual assault). Yeah, he forces Dan's head into the pillow. Bad but that is not equal to rape.
He gives Dan choices and Dan makes those choices and gives him the green light many times, even after saying stop or no.
Dan goes back too to make another deal.

Boxy, why " that still doesn't erase that it's sexual assault/about?" Jinx is sexual assault and abuse but not rape. By saying the truth it is not rape that does not erase anything. Why make a ridiculous argument?
I don't think there was blaming place on Dan. It was about responsibility. Dan had a choice and he is an adult.
Where did you get that?
Dan had choices and are you sure it was only out of desperation? It wasn't.
Jaekyung doesn't have any respect for Dan? He has bad behavior, like chapter 34 and soda but no respect?
Does Dan feel violated?

Is Coughee defending this? That is good advice take the story as it is... it is not rape. Separate rape and sexual coercion. Stop forcing your false narrative " deluding yourself into believing that it's not rape" You are the one adding rape to a non-rape story.

Standing with the truth is not really dangerous. You are doing ad hominins to be right in your pov.
Ad hominem: in other words, a personal attack, attacking the person instead of attacking the issue. an example of Ad hominem would be, "poisoning the well" is the direct attack on the trustworthiness of the person making a statement instead of addressing the statement.

Ad hominem refers to attacking the person making the argument rather than addressing the argument itself."

They must not have a very good argument with the imposing and ad hominems.

You think it's mutual than it's mutual. I think it's not than it's not.
Don't bother to post those links , I'm not clicking them.
If I want enlightenment , I'll Google myself.

"You think it's mutual than it's mutual."

FALSE. It has nothing to do with what I think. It is what the story is saying. I will enlighten you on that soon. I am not the story.

"I think it's not than it's not."

You false opinions and stubbornness to change from false ideas.

"Don't bother to post those links , I'm not clicking them."
I will post links. They are posted to you but they are for anyone that wants to learn and enlighten themselves. You can't control me or silence the truth because it is against your opinion. It is up to you to change and learn the truth or be willfully ignorant.


"If I want enlightenment, I'll Google myself" Google? oh, bother. Are you sure that is the best method?

I doubt you will look for the truth or try to even understand this story. It seems you just want to wallow in hate and lies. Get over yourself.

K .

arent we funny HAHAHAHAAHHA yall r hilarious as fuck. lets just read and think however we want. i never said anything wrong and i know myself i wouldn't tolerate rape and other shitty acts. its fiction, stfu and read. if u think differently, then okay good for u. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

i dont think im the one who can't learn to sepArate fiction and irl. its so obvious who's who lol