I fear we need to acknowledge that Taeha has been lying to Haesoo the entire time.
I feel like damn if you're not gonna tell her you're rich can you at least let the girl get some blessings??
Someone anonymously tips Haesoo a bunch of money and she cant give it back. Oh you get a random check for 5k cause of a lottery. Some kind stranger has paid your rent for the next 5 months!! Oops we mistakenly sent you this package full of good clothing or other supplies no need to send it back. Get her a job at a good store with great pay and benefits???
FR!
But then we also gotta admit that Taeha is possessive and I'm not sure he would want to "free" her. Giving her money, is giving her freedom. And so he wouldn't be able to control her as much.
Honestly, I hated when she was sobbing on the floor after witnessing Mincheol cheating and everything and Taeha says, “Stop crying. You need to go to work tomorrow.” And then she passes out. Like, I hated him in that moment. How dare you. Maybe say the “I’ll do anything you ask,” part out loud, instead of, “Stop crying, there’s work.” Blergh!
I wanted to say this too but I was afraid of being jumped lol
Understandable haha
These chapters are in Mincheols POV but they are very centered around Na Haesoo. We learn about her father, what other people thought of her back in school, how Mincheol used to treat her, why they most likely got in debt,... I could go on.
We get a lot of insight on Mincheol's personality but not much else. I mean, we don't know about his family life at all or what he wants to go to college for even though its brought up a lot. Everything we've seen thus far has some connection to Haesoo.
Haesoo has lived more of her life with Mincheol than without, so it makes sense that we have to know him to know her.
shoot me or whatever but i think this is a more interesting plot than her and Taeha having sex and Taeha being another illegitimate child chaebol with a strained family relationship. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
yup agree! also, the point is to understand why haesoo tolerated all that BS for years. Some of these comments calling it a waste of a chapter is funny to me idk lol
Thank you!
its giving the manhwa more substance than sex , maybe ppl just aren't used to that
Nah, I think it's just that most of the audience here is below 15)) and also the Western world view is much more black and white, good vs evil than Asian - it can be a good thing and a bad thing (▰˘◡˘▰)
Just had another thought - that's it's actually very curious how the Asian worldview is more nuanced and cliche at the same time - like on one hand - everyone has to fit a particular box - but on the other - it's much more acceptable in storytelling that "bad people" can sometimes do "good thing", and the other way around, and good characters can turn bad and so on...
Well when much of the western world has been ruled by christian authoritarianism you dont get much nuance
Yeah - it's a totally different way of thinking ^^
Ppl complaining about seeing backstory or focusing on other characters like Mincheol isn't a main character. The endgame couple doesn't have to be the only main characters. I think it's good that Mincheol has a real personality. It's different from other stories where the ex is just a piece of shit just because. (also both men are heavily flawed)
You can feel bad for a person but also not tolerate the way they behave. It seems like in the past Kang Mincheol was a little hot headed, arrogant, kinda reminds me a little of Korra from LoK. But he definitely loved Hae-soo a lot. It seems like the financial situation they're in might be because of something that happened to her and he was willing to sacrifice so much for her. But of course finances are the #1 reason why people get divorced.
I cant completely hate Mincheol, he still has that young boy who is kind, selfless and loyal inside of him; but we all have to lay in the beds we make and he sucks for cheating and tearing down Hae-soo's self esteem.
The author wants to tell a complete story so let her do that. The pace is fine, its just that the format and the episodic releases makes it seem longer than it actually is. If this was a novel it would definitely seem shorter.
Finally someone gets it!!
Child Psychologists have noted that children will be mean/aggressive with their primary caretakers, or the people they trust the most. This is all subconscious.
For instance, my kid had a hitting phase, but it was only targeted towards me. It's because she views me as someone who will never leave her, so she feels free to be in her most vulnerable state. She acts way better/more formal/more respect with other family members. It's somewhat bittersweet cause ow pls stop hitting me but I'm glad you feel safe with me.
I think this is the case with Kiseong. He doesn't admit it but he absolutely feels like he is the safest with Kijeong and will act out because he knows deep down she will not abandon or hurt him. He carries that one time she slapped him because it's the one time his beliefs were proven wrong and the start of his trauma. The cousin took advantage of this situation by pacifying him (giving candy,toys etc..).
Kiseong is projecting his hurt onto Kijeong, because the grooming began when Kijeong was planning to leave. So he must've felt abandoned. Even though he had the choice to go with her he's still a child who just got his feelings hurt so he's going to be petty.
Both siblings are traumatized but express it in different ways. Kiseong is very explosive and outfacing while Kijeong bottles it up and punishes herself.
The brother is very conflicting. I get that his resentment towards her is because she is easier to confront than the real danger (his cousin) but damn he isn't very understanding at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Kijeong was also abused by the cousin but 'aged out' of his preferences. She was willing to give up her own room to ensure that he never got near the brother. Very common protection method. But the brother will never know because he refuses to talk to her.
He’s still 14. Despite his unfair assessment of his sister, he was so young and abused that I can’t blame him for feeling angry at everyone
Yeah. I just hate to see it cause we know he's gonna probably die so at least I hope we can see him have a little character development before then
Clarifying some things!!
In all 3 of the timelines Kloff never loved Rapiel, and its implied that was the same for Rapiel.
The point that the author is making is that Aeroc and Kloff were fated to be together, but in the first timeline there were many obstacles that led to the tragedy. Both of them are more alike than they think and their haughty/hard headed attitudes led them to their downfalls.
Kloff does get punished in the timelines. In the first he has a ruined relationship with his children, nearly killed one, and is haunted by the cabin. Second timeline he gets nightmares from the first constantly, and his reputation does suffer. Third timeline he remembers everything but Aeroc doesnt.
The biggest punishment of all is that Kloff will never get to see the Aeroc he loved the most (1st) and cannot apologize to him, make up for it, or tell him he loves him.
As for Aeroc, you have to understand that he is very much in love with Kloff. I mean he was willing to at the least harm Rapiel because of his jealousy. He cant 'get over' Kloff. Also they're imprinted and it carries over in all timelines so no matter what he would fall in love with Kloff. Consider this 2nd timeline as a win for Aeroc even though its fucked up. He gets to have a do-over. He still believes he's at fault for everything so this timeline he is willing to accept Kloffs affection because he believes he's mostly atoned for his sins.
I like to say that there are 6 main characters in this story. Every timeline version of Aeroc and Kloff. Once you see it that way the story will be more enjoyable I guess.
I meant to like! Also just wanted to say thank you this really helped clear things up for me! (=・ω・=)
Thank you for this worderful explanation. I think i now get the story line way better and and i can really understsnd the characters on a better note
I don’t think he believes he’s atoned for his sins. Remember in the novel, when he asks Kloff if he’s allowed to love him now, even after they got together? He feels he doesn’t deserve to love Kloff because of what he’s done. What I think is that he’ll carry the guilt forever, but he’s able to live with it.
Also, we know it was Aeroc, not Rapiel, that Kloff had always wanted. But why is it that in the cabin (first TL), Kloff looked at Aeroc and thought of Rapiel, smiling at him so affectionately?
I already know all the spoilers but damn, Kloff is such a hard to love character. I love your take that there are 6 characters here. Thinking about it in that perspective comforts me a bit.
Yeah rather than atone, acceptance is a better word. But I felt that he did get a lot of weight off his shoulders since his main shames of killing rapiel and destroying the teiwind legacy did not occur.
for your question, Kloff has a warped identity crisis for Aeroc and Rapiel. Basically he sees Rapiel in Aeroc because he sees Aeroc in Rapiel. While Rapiel is his own person, Kloff didn't see him that way. Since AlphaxAlpha relationships were heavily frowned upon he replaced Aeroc with a Omega version of him. Its a common trope in bl or gl that a character will date a genderbent version of their unrequited love because there's less social stigma and its (in their minds) the closest they can get to being with their love.
I mean, the method of revenge Kloff used was in no way just for Rapiel. He could've had Aeroc raped and killed as an alpha like Rapiel. He could've stopped at him 'replacing' one child. Kloff is a very rigid and close minded
ok to continue my bad, Kloff is rigid and close minded. The only reason why he has any attraction to Aeroc that he actually acts on on the 2nd timeline is due to the imprinting, the dreams he has of the 1st timeline, and the fact that Aeroc is still an Omega. Kloff would rather do all this than love Aeroc as an Alpha because of his strict morals. His notions of how to get the success he wants is to marry an omega and there is no space for nuance.
“ The biggest punishment of all is that Kloff will never get to see the Aeroc he loved the most (1st) and cannot apologize to him, make up for it, or tell him he loves him.”
You didn’t have to add that line btw that made me burst into tears… the fact that the aeroc in the first timeline will never feel like he’s truly atoned for his sins and be free from his guilt is so heart wrenching… he’ll never know that klopp from the first timeline doesn’t blame him for what has happened anymore… man I need a break from this this is so heartbreaking （/TДT)/
Folks theres no incest it's just a rumor Albert's dad and friend made up so that others (especially Albert because he's next) wouldn't fall in love with Asha.
This is just a theory but I think the male leads are incapable of killing each other. Or their obsession with Crochetta is so intense that they don't care about anyone else.
if you think about it, Ethian has the means and time to kill Roger and Arnold but he hasnt done so, same goes vice versa. Roger was just within killing point of Ethian and did nothing. There's always *something* that stops them.
Some ppl might bring up Ethian causing the fire, but in Chapter 51 they make it clear that the plan was only to separate Roger and Crochetta. (Also they hired basic mercs for a legendary swordsman lol yeah the intent was never to kill)
This is an interesting theory
so that proves that Guwon isn't playing Jinwoo as far as "can you teach me sex" goes.
I want to see how the author writes Inseop struggling with the fact that the trophy he seeks is a human. I dont even think Oh Inseop knows what his end goal with Kijeong is.
Unlike material objects, humans do not lose their value or need. With his other victims, the items he wanted were inconsequential and only held importance to one person. But there will always be someone who finds Kijeong as important to care about. The detective, the other teacher who just defended her, her students etc.. and there are people who care about them too. Oh Inseop cant kill them all