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Yeah but y did Kengo slit Kou's throat I'm kinda lost and they all look alike so is it twins r triplets I'm lost and confused

I forgot to put that in my OP, I'm going to add it since idk what that was about either! It all made no sense. Even if Kei hated Kou and they WERE triplets, why would Kengo hate Kou enough to slit his throat? What, did Kei conspire with Kengo and tell him about how Kou let him get raped? What, was Kengo's natural reaction to that to be willing to slit his throat? Too much missing info.

I interpred it as Kei and Kou being twins and Kengo being the doppleganger, ie someone who looks like them, so in the end he came and made sure the both of them died so he could replace them. As some last second really bad plottwist.

yeah that’s how I interpreted it too. But someone in the comments below brought up an interesting idea that Kou knew nothing about the rape since the beginning. And maybe it was actually kengo the doppelgänger who ignored the rape. So maybe the younger bro misunderstood all along. And if this was the case, it’d be even more twisted and messed up!

That’s literally what I was thinking the entire time lmao

Except chapter 5 put an end to that (unless I'm wrong as I don't exactly know what happens after ch.1 in Goblin Slayer).

I mean, if it changed then it changed. That's it. Doesn't change what i was saying.

Yes, I'm not denying what you said. While reading I'm actually reminded of GS, too, you know.

Yes ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Copied from someone's else comment, and no "rape" occurred even in the wn/ln.

They don't get raped. They actually get devoured until only the bones are left (which is a mystery that gets solved later on too, since goblins usually rape the women to breed them, instead of eating them)

No it's not copied, people can have similar thoughts... anyways, I'm not willing to argue with you that they were raped, you're wrong. Clear implication.

Read more of these isekai and you'll see it's a very common trend to have the goblins imprison and rape the females. Like, VERY common.

But not in this one. Like I've said, I've read the novel so I know what I am writing.
I do know that rape was/is commonly used in novels, but not this one, and it's one of the reasons I keep reading, aside from the fact that the story is entertaining. I rather have them dying in awful ways than being violated.

I stopped reading plenty of novels (isekais and other genres) in my long 20 years of being an otaku. So I am aware of the trend. Thanks

Like the comment I've shared, there is a reason rape did not occur. At least not in this situation.

And no need to argue. I won't deny the similarities with GS (a story that I dislike and feels flat anyway, my opinion, not a fact), but the differences are what make me enjoy the story the most.

Huh, you seem pretty reasonable. Sorry i was bitchy, i was tired and bitchy when i responded. As far as what you said, are you saying that it is explicitly stated in the ln that they don't rape female captives? I think, given the genre, that the implication in this, the manga, was clearly that they were going to rape them. It was pretty explicitly implied when the goblins stared tearing at their clothes. Maybe they rape and THEN eat them? Eating humans is hardly a new concept either.

You're also using the ln as evidence, which in itself isn't a great idea since the manga adaptation tends to differ. But ╮(￣▽￣)╭

In the novel, they explicitly explained what happened to those fellows, and they were just eaten alive. And about raping female captives, they never deny it or confirm it, so we can say that people are assuming based on past stories that follow a certain pattern. I cannot say if its right.

For instance, in Tensei no Shittara no Slime Dattara Ken (the day I reincarnated as a Slime) novel, goblins there do not rape, they even have females in their own species. I think goblins are used mostly as a starting point in isekais stories/animes. But not all use the trend "we are evil, we rape women and kill men" kind of narrative.

But they were just eaten, simple like that and that will be explained in future chapters. And eating humans is not a new concept, I do agree, but expecting rape in every encounter with goblins is actually strange.

And I am indeed using the ln as evidence, but so far, the manga has been following everything. Like many other isekai mangas, is being loyal to the source material so far. If anything was/is different we'll know.

Thanks for answering patiently.

PS: English is not my first language if anything was misunderstood in my writing, I apologize in advance.

Okay, and i understood you fine. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Yes betas can get pregnant! ヾ(☆▽☆)

They can get pregnant but I think its a low chance of pregnency?? From other omegaverse mangas that I've read thats what usually happen. So I dont know if its gonna be the same in this one

They can get pregnant but I think its a low chance of pregnency?? From other omegaverse mangas that I've read thats what usually happen. So I dont know if its gonna be the same in this one ╮(￣▽￣)╭

what? no. male betas can't get pregnant. they're normal guys and have no womb.


https://aminoapps.com/c/homeoflove/page/blog/omegaverse-explained/8B85_Laphmu86ma78mEbY0wEExGGvmq8gBl

-A comparison of Betas to Alphas or Omegas is to say they are your basic human beings. Males are males, no knot, no obscene sizes no pheromones they can't conceive (Though not likely) no pheromones. Betas are not affected very much by pheromones, and are considered in society to be the normal humans They’re popular with employers because they’re submissive mostly and not territorial.-

but maybe this one is different..
I would like it if Heesoo could get pregnant though :)

Usually it depends on the author. There are stories where betas can get pregnant. But I remember reading that the author for Love is an Illusion decided that male betas can't get pregnant. And that betas are normal people

I'm pretty sure the author said that male betas can't get pregnant sadly

It depends on the author. In this one http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kashikomarimashita_destiny/mi/f934afad5dcaafc116852fb7793fd141_chapter-12.6/34/
Yeah they can. This is a page to show it.

I really wish its the same here I really wanna see mini heesoo running around and so then byul can have a playmate mwauhahah(〜￣△￣)〜(≧∀≦)

If you haven't read that one you should. It's great and beautifully done.

I already read that before and I love it much that I everytime I read it there are tears rolling down my face. I really wanted to beat the bejesus out of Jirou when whe kept on push Aoi away (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Then when everything was settled Hijiri come along and trys to ruin everything for Miyauchi!!! (╬￣皿￣)

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I thought that by "normal human beings" it meant as in they don't emit pheromones or have the knot that an alpha has? Or the duck that a female alpha has. Like, their biologies are different. Usually the idea behind omegaverse is that everybody can get pregnant.

Dick*

And they're not affected by the Pheromones of omegas in heat I guess.

The Betas I mean

Yeah, it seems in this universe betas aren't effected by pheromones at all really, males also don't seem to get pregnant. ╥﹏╥

But I really wish they can get pregnant hahahah so that heesoo can have a child too (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Me too, fingers crossed that he's actually a REALLY recessive omega that they thought was a beta. (▰˘◡˘▰)

i couldn’t agree more. say it louder for the people at the back.

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let's say he was conflicted about his feelings before he gone to the military, does not change the fact that 80% of the story was abusive to the MC. and only after the MC left him, he all of sudden remember he wants him.
even now he trying to kiss him while the MC dating someone else for TWO YEARS!! sorry he is still sulfish dick, dosn't matter if he love the MC (sorry I forgot his name XD) or not love him before it.
to me he didn't change even a little. what is saying something about him, and not a good thing.

Seriously this, why the Hell are people trying to paint Hyunwoo as if he got a redemption arc or is a victim.

Seeing him suffer is

You really don't think he changed since the beginning? I'd definitely argue that, objectively, he did. He'd started to look at all that psychological shit head-on, but before he got the chance Hyung asked Subin out. The denial was entirely more tangible in the beginning, now he's admitting he has feelings. It's not some flippant decision he made, it wasn't easy for him, there're YEARS of emotional backstory to this.

Because he IS a victim too? There can be more than one victim in a story. Yes, he did some really bad shit to Subin, but he was dealing with a LOT of psychological issues of his own. Hyunwoo is truly, genuinely just fucked up. It looked at the beginning like he's just an asshole, but he's actually just got a lot of baggage that makes him act like one sometimes. It was only because of Subin's YEARS of effort that Hyunwoo even started to feel like he should own up to all this. He simply wasn't ready for a relationship all those years and when he finally was he lost his chance to be with the only person that he views as outside all the shit in his head. He just said that he's actually scared of committment, he has a phobia, he's scared it won't ever work out because of all the experiences he's had. On top of this he's straight, but fell for a guy. He was super awkward about this to the point of intense denial and even ran away to the military over it. It's not like he likes guys in general now, so this thing he feels towards this guy friend of his is crazy to him.

and? what did he do with all "adimitting his feelings" shit? and he said himself that he still deny them everyday! how is that growing or changing? from what? he deny his feelings before and he still doing it now, only now he just won't try to move on at all saying he don't want serious thing and just have sex to run away, he run away from his feelings before and he still doing it now. and no, trying to kiss someone that have a boyfriend is not "adimiting his feelings" it just been selifsh and a prick, wait wasn't he a selfish prick from the start? here your go XD

I know right? XD I tired of Hyunwoo character soo much. he is soo boring to me XD

Didn't he literally confess? Right around when Subin and Hyung started dating? Subin chose Hyung and now he has to repress his feelings again because it's over. That's what he was saying. He did so for years and now he's leaving, he is moving on.

he should have done it a mounth after he was rejected, but he choose to stay and keep his feelings to himself all those years and now when he is "leaving", "moving on" he try to kiss the MC. uh ah this is not count has moving on, sorry. his action's dosn't show he is moving on at all. like all the story, his action's always go aganist his shitty bullshit words.

You seem to just hate him. Understandably. But you're ignoring character development and twisting things on your head. But i still love you Maychan (づ￣ ³￣)づ

and you seem to keep ignoring what I"m asking you: what development? is running away in a different way can be even count has "development"? then sorry it dosn't look like a "development" to me.
a different kind of running away only to come back and try to kiss the MC is not really a development, at least not to me.
a development is actually change things you do, change how you act, change how you feel, NOT RUNNING AWAY.

Its not that i was ignoring you, i just didnt think the development needed pointed out and didn't realize you were asking me a question. It sounded like you were making a statement. You know, "what development?" followed by you giving what you view as a lack of development. He's actually changed pretty obviously. So, development isn't subjective, it's objective. The character either changed or is the same. Can you tell me Hyunwoo would've kissed Subin while completely sober at the beginning of this manga? There was literally a whole thing where hw freaked out abiut his feelings for Subin to noona. At the start of the story Hyunwoo was entirely in denial, he wouldn't even entertain Subin's advances. He literally punched him at one point. He is actually acknowledging his feelings, he went to ask Subin to be with him and now he's repressing them again for Subin. He has been for 2 years now since Subin chose Hyung. Regardless of him repressing his feelings, he still loves Subin and since he's going to leave he kissed him. Is it inappropriate? Given their past, I'm not sure, i don't feel like outsiders would be able to make that decision. Subin could still choose Hyunwoo, he won't, but he could. That kiss was probably his last effort to get Subin to consider him and his goodbye to his feelings for Subin.

Also, he's not "running away", he's leaving because he's been rejected already. How is kissing Subin "running away" from his feelings? No, he was running away in the beginning when he was pretending his feelings don't exist. Now he's told Subin, Subin just chose Hyung instead. Him kissing him was basically the same as a 2nd confession, he literally told Subin he's tired of things the way they are and that he's leaving.

Development is very simple: the change in characterization of a dynamic character, who changes over the course of a narrative. (you can google it)
Yeas Hyunwoo will do whatever he wants with the MC, having sex with him, kiss him, dump him, curse him, abuse him. it all come down to what he wants and how selfish he is in that moment.
read it again. it's not that he didn't acknowle or know about his feelings, he know about them a long time, he just RUN away, but since he is selfish he agree to live with him in his own tearms.
and now in the new chapter it is the same. he is running away cause he STILL love him and doing things in his own tearms - kissing him cause he feel like doing it.
2 years of been the same has before - LOVING THE MC and rufuse to even admit he love him. only after one "dream" he finally admit "Oh yeas I love him".
"Is it inappropriate?" are you really asking this?! to kiss someone that have a fucking boyfriend?!!! YEAS IT IS!!! very inappropriate and very selfish! and yeas just cause the poor asshole Hyunwoo love the MC, it does not mean the MC need to agree to a kiss from him out of no where or to agree to get his ass back!
his effort is selfish, and a dick move knowing he have a boyfriend - but again Hyunwoo was always selfish and a dick. so I"m not really surpise, I hoped he change from been a selfish brat, but nope he still the same asshole.

his leave is not cause he was rejected, if it was cause of that, then he would have left in the same day he was rejected. he is leaving cause he want to run away, has always.

I disagree, and this is what i was talking about when i said you're twisting things in your head. The intended understanding here is clearly that he's leaving because it hurts to be around Subin when he can't have him. I'm not really willing to argue that Maychan. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

lol it the same thing XDDD running away from your pain is still running away.

The context is what's different. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

The vibe that ive got from the seme is that he is a fucking asshole player. He did it for fun, even threatening uke w blackmail. Can't say that he's in love, but curious to uke is kinda fitting for what happens to him rn

I didn't understand the last part, would you explain? :^(

The seme is curious to uke, maybe bc he's a gay or something

Oh, okay. Thanks. (⌒▽⌒)