In my opinion I believe that people who call kwon Ido an evil person are wrong. Ofcourse everything he has done is absolutely horrible but I don’t think he’s evil, instead I think he just did this because he felt utterly betrayed by Sejin. when we first meet him he did give off horrible vibes but we need to understand that in that corporate world he probably saw Sejin as some type of spy, as many corporate leaders learn to not trust anyone other than family. We can see this in the multiple times that sejin overhears something and Kwon asks him if he will betray him. Now until Kwon Ido learns of Sejin’s betrayal Kwon slowly warms up to him because he thinks he’s an honest and kind person and the end up falling in love with each other because they grow closer in the time they spent. Now the fall is when Kwon is betrayed, and personally I hateee when people are like this situation means nothing and that Kwon Ido shouldn’t have been mad, like bro if you got betrayed like that you would be mad. Now in the context Sejin knew that this is betrayal, he knew it was wrong, and I still believe that half of it was his fault because he still did it. But he was also pressured by family and that leaves it half not his fault because I don’t want to victim blame him but it is HIS FAULT, he had a play in that don’t be making characters you like saints and he is a saint but not in this situation. This is where Kwon Idos fear of betrayal really shines, as he completely isolates Sejin and gets his revenge in the things that happen. Now I think everything Kwon Ido does to this point is horrible and not warranted, but idk if it’s been confirmed but I don’t think Kwon wanted Sejin to be raped by his brother, I think he never even knew it happened until they eloped. Now the biggest evil Kwon Ido did was rape Sejin, I think before that (excluding the forced dick shoving) Kwons actions were somewhat fair, he isolated Sejin, didn’t talk to him, and ignored him which is horrible don’t get me wrong but I don’t believe this is evil, he is still a person and he felt utterly betrayed. Now think his “evilness” stems from his sexual abuse towards Sejin. Overall I just believe that before the rape and the sexual abuse towards Sejin, Kwon was understandable and not a “evil” person but a hurt person and I still believe that he was written REALLY REALLY well because he feels such immense guilt after what he did and him understanding Sejin. Idk if you disagree tell me why, just a reminder I am not excusing anything that Kwon did, I just believe we can’t choose sides here because both of these characters have done something wrong to each other.
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my dude you shouldn't expect media literacy from the mangago comment section. for most of the idiots on here characters are either perfectly good or unforgivably evil, no nuance whatsoever.
I think you captured it really well. It's very hard and I feel conflicted when I think about it, but both of them did their fair share of bad things. Sejin for betraying him and revealing secrets about his company and Ido for taking revenge (what he did was more horrible and disgusting that's for sure and nothing Sejin did justifys it) but how would you feel when you are utterly betrayed by the one you fell in love with?
But the most horrible person is Sejin's father, if it weren't for him, nothing like this would have happened.
All in all I think it's really well written. Ido's character is growing and changing - maybe to slow or not good enough. Is it to late for forgiveness or should he suffer more? In my opinion Sejin is too timid, but with a family like his no wonder.
It's a deep story where you feel a lot of different emotions.
Yea I agree with u except the rape part and forced bj which haunted Sejin even in his rebirth all of the other actions were somewhat consequences of Sejin's betrayal. And I think in Ido's rebirth he had come a long way. He did try his best for Sejin which was very unlike his true self tho I don't understand why he bonded when he was about to let Sejin go. Maybe for the plot but okayy
I could kiss you rn if a screen wasn't separating us
yess i know.. but I just had to get my thoughts out
I think it was to show that Kwons love had turned into possession, or at least into something toxic. Because I think he said when Sejin got out of jail that he "belonged to him" or something... YK the normal trope lolll
mwah
I wouldn't call him evil. More sociopathic, like all seme who think nothing is wrong with raping a person.
You forgot that he raped Sejin before he betrayed him. The first time his heat came, even though it was kinda dub-con due to the heat, Ido was unnecessary brutal with him for no reason and felt zero remorse.
He did have all rights to feel angry and betrayed when Sejin did betray him, but Ido was already treating him like garbage from the very beginning and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt.
We understand his viewpoint and it makes sense for him to feel disdain towards Sejin from the start, but he went overboard from the beginning. You don't treat a person like this, no matter how low your opinion of them is or how bad you think they are.
Again, not evil, just sociopathic imo
Oh no I meant in the current life when he planned everything out so that he can let sejin go
ohh.. I think that Kwon was planning to not do that but Sejin pushed him to do it and I think that Kwon agreed just to have atleast one connectiont to sejin
He was already bonded to Sejin I think?? Like his initial bond from the first timeline still held. The only difference was Sejin could for the first time feel the bond as well. (Either that or it was a one way bond in the 1st TL and become a dual bond).
“This manga is so sexist”, so what? Even as a woman I can understand different stories rooted in different problems… guys it’s not that hard to have a literature mindset when it comes to these topics. Not every story is going to be in the confines you want, it would make writing useless if anything. Personally I enjoy the topics being discussed and the edgy mindset if you don’t like that, then don’t read it no need to bash an author or story when ur literally reading on an illegal site lol.
someone's gonna say you have internalized misogyny for this comment
ATP I feel like ppl don’t even know what internalized misogyny looks like
yeah i agree. not every story needs to me completely morally correct in order for it to be enjoyable. and it’s also possible to watch something and criticize it fairly at the same time.
That's my mindset as well
Does anyone have the novel… in English and also like the chapter for this arc?
Does anyone have a free version of the novel in english
TambI want it too
if anyone wanted to know... the artist helped with Fullmetal Alchemist LMAOO
I didn't wanna know
But... wait WHAT? How did you know this?
Hehe click the artists name
“Hagane” is part of the Japanese title of FA, it doesn’t have anything to do w/ this artist :)
hehe, i Know I just wanted to lie
Did Se Hwan actually like Yoon?? Like I read the story, and I'm pretty sure he was faking "liking" him for his brother, but the torture scene confused me
god if this seme doesn't end up yearning im gonna DIE