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He could've dated a fellow actor, but JH's the bestest actor. （￣へ￣）

idk if you use your phone or computer but

i use my laptop and when you open the mangago website just scroll down till you reach the end then you'll see on the bottom left a place to write a question

if you're on your phone idk tbh but maybe try the same thing?

Omgggg!!!! I found it. Why is it there doe hahahaha

Thank u so so much ( ；ᵕ； )

lol no problem i had the same problem as you before i found it

Yeah I ship them because this ain't bothering me that much. I get sad and angry at certain chapters and happy and get butterflies at the rest. It really is that simple. I've read worse than this actually. Also the amount of times media sexualize and romantizice killers, cannibals, criminals, rapists and more pretty much numbed me from stories like this. So if it bothers some readers so much I suggest that they drop this story. I understand its not everybodys cup of tea. Also for those who really wants to continue these but gets uncomfortable at certain graphic warnings then it's better to skip that chapter or remind yourself that it's fiction.

You might think death is better for him, and trust me he wants that, but he also wants to live and have someone to be with him and treat him nicely. Taeju doesn't deserve him ofc, but he tryna fix things for the both of them and I'll keep supporting them until then.

Hon if ur so hooked up on morals for a BL fictional story then this isn’t the place for u. Read with discretion. There are so much more stories that are worse. I mean good for you that u stand up for what’s right but it doesn’t automatically mean that other readers normalize or accept the things that happen in it. It’s a product of one’s imagination or creativity. You don’t have to agree to it or if you can’t handle the contents then stop reading. It’s just a read, that simple.

Honestly with the amount of shit male lead has done I think this manhwa should be under the psychological tag rather than the romance tag

You don’t like this? Then go read some vanilla work. Why are you even here??

I don't think so, from all psychological bl i've read, taeju definitely isn't the worst that this story could be put under psychological genre for sure. This isn't that bad to deserve that tag, this is even tamer than others, though mc could come in stockholm syndrome category

i second this, he's not the worst ml out there. and idk but you're right about not putting psychological genre in the story, it's not that crazy i swear they are even funny sometimes lol

i do qNOT ship them, im not a weirdo like that. I read cause i want to

this actually used to have a psychological tag, i wonder when it got taken off

the bar is in hell and melted

Yeah you got a point there but the fact that there is a romance tag in this manhwa is CONCERNING.

Naaah lmao

Honestly there should be tag in between romance and psychological... like SOMETHING, ANYTHING just not the romance tag its an insult

It's fiction

Yes i ship. Stop pooping on other peoples stories.

??? Huh. I ship too

It’s so insane to me that people defend the concept of using rape, abuse and violence for content just because it’s fiction. It’s fine if this is your cup of tea, or if it isn’t. But don’t go around defending it or denying how wrong it is. Frankly nobody cares if you’re numbed to this or if there’s much worse out there. It doesn’t justify anything that fetishizes whatever this is. This is not a romance genre. You can like and support, but don’t be so delusional to go as far as to hate on people who knows this is the cause of BL stigma and it shouldn’t be enabled. The only reason these people get offended is because they know how fucked up their entertainment is. Accept it, ignore, keep reading or drop it. That goes for everyone. Touch some grass y’all.

No one's defending it though? Everyone knows the content in this is wrong but nobody cares either, no one hates on people that states that it's wrong too, just that people are saying that if they're uncomfortable then go, don't read this. People know what's different from fiction to reality, and if this ever happened irl people would surely be mad, no one's defending taeju's action, it's just that nobody honestly cares of how he acts because we know this is far from reality, and we enjoy the banter the two has because they're being drawn as comedic and they're romantically progressing.

Honestly everyone should have their own worlds, sections to be separated, of course people would come as a shield and find some reasons to defend a story they like if people comes to hate, this happens on all kinds of stories, and no one should be arguing cause if this isn't your cup of tea, just ignore, don't see don't care. All people here agree that taeju sets the bar low aside from being handsome, like others says don't yuck someone's yum. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Besides everyone is here for different reasons, some are here to fap, others are here for emotional rollercoaster, while im here because this is a hype and got annoyed by the ml throughout the story, but tbh even if i hate it i can't stop reading because the interaction both mc and ml has got me hooked, i love the angst and the way this made me bawling (⌒▽⌒)

Are you okay? No one's defending his action. No one is denying how shitty he is. No one is denying how bad his actions were. No one is defending the concept of abuse and violence. Can you point out the part im defending him? Cause you're so loud and so wrong at the same time. Also my house is surrounded with grass thanks hehe

i kinda agree with you! to think euihyuns life so fucked up and then he got pregnant unplanned by raped its just so sad. a lot of people excited to see him pregnant and i was like “uhm… what…” i really speechless bcs we know when tj impregnant euihyun is disturbing content. but i keep reading it bcs i like development, i like “karma is a bitch” plot. i hope there would be redemption era for taejoo. and i hope i would be goes very hard for him ur opinion is not wrong

I Thought when you create account in this site you're already far gone to be talking about rape abuse or some illegal things? I mean just look at the homepage..

Everyone already know about the contents though.. the hell you talking shit about. Duh... Can't take it? Get lost... Don't be sore loser

Right?? Homepage itself screams unhinged and im not mentally stable lmao

You're reading in an illegal sote, your opinion on the story doesn't matter

I absolutely do not ship this. The mental health aspect of it is what kept me reading this. I actually despise the ML. I’m more interested in the dynamics of the relationship with the MC and his brother. Like how do you explain to me person you love most in this world you almost ended their life? There’s a really good story here but we won’t get it because everyone is too focused on toxic dick and a bullshit pregnancy trope…

I know I am not in the topic of discussion and entering as some sort of invasive specie but I just wanna say that there are people who actually defend such people even if its just fiction... so while there are sensible people with actual common sense there are also stupid as fuck people (not saying the defenders of such people are in this thread itself but yeah)

This is a very nice comment! You r expressing your opinion without any rude or sarcastic elements.

I also can understand your perspective. You are also right w the media and how they always romantizice the "bad" people. (with bad I mean: killers, criminals, rapists, cannibals, child predators and more). Actually I find that sad that the media does it, I find the bridge of reality and fiction sometimes too close. I met some people who also started to normalise thoughts like: "he is so hot even tho he killed that one child", "he raped his victims but he is so sexy". It hurts because they just don't care about the people who suffered but only for looks. What would they do if someone gets raped next to them, would they just stare and not act because the rapist is hot?
That's what concerns me.
Don't get me wrong, it is fiction and you can enjoy whatever you wish, but knowing what is right or wrong is vital. Some comment stuff that is concerning, makes me wonder how they act in real life when someone is getting assaulted. That's what I mean with "y'all ship this?" I want to know thoughts of those who ship it, thus far I got always the same replies. F embarrassing.

Your comment doe is refreshing and normal, you genuinely state your opinion without being judgmental or jumping to conclusions. So I want to thank you for this comment, special thanks for the "suggest" part in your comment!


Now let me explain why I read it:
I read this because that is something I want to do. I don't support it and I also find joy in judging art. I do art myself so I want to read for research and my own personal needs. It annoys me how some are "then don't read it" SHUT IT! I do what I want and piss off with your demands, honestly some people think they can act like some higher being.
I also write fics so this is a good lesson for me to see what to avoid when writing a "bad" person.

Thank you that is a nice opinion you have there! ᐠ( ᐛ )ᐟ

Doe I think the ml did so much damage that the mc deserves someone else. I think ml is a bit too aggressive and thus far has done only damage to the mc. It is a toxic ship for sure.

If you wanna support them go for it, just hope when you meet someone in real life that did all those things to you that you won't stick with them and leave.
People don't change easily and everyone deserves someone who isn't abusive.

I agree!
Mc wanted to kill himself ?two? times. Plus mc got some real emotional damage because of ml.

Finally someone who gets me!

I do wanna know why u read it doe, I'm curious?!

I read it for research and for story telling stuff. I am an artist myself in the art and writing craft. Also have fun judging it and discussing about it with other people.

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THIS!!!!!

YES!!!! That's what I mean!!!!! Couldn't have said it better!



Imma follow u bc that is exactly what I think but can't put it into words! You are a real one for this!

Valid!

Glad you shared your thoughts, hope you get what you seek for this plot. I too hope for "karna". ᐠ( ᐛ )ᐟ

These are just the most viewed ones. I'm mostly here for manga like jjk, snk, kny, or other. Doe I'm here for BL as well but reading the fucked up things is in a way interesting and judging them is also a fun thing to do.
Doe I made this comment to just hear the thoughts of others who find this a good ship, even tho the ml did so much bad (which I listed in my comment).
Love to discuss with other, but only with those who are not delusional or have fucked up minds and think this fictional piece is valid because it is "fiction". that just shows how some people think and how fucked up they are to think that this is valid just bc it is fiction. Wonder how they think about stuff that happens in real life, will they defend the rapist as well bc he just hot?

So that's why I asked, hoping people would tell me their opinions and share their perspective without using the fiction card as an excuse.

I like this comment!

Very nice thoughts you have. I think maybe that's why I also stick around. Mostly just here for the mc to die or tell his brother how he feels and why he did what he did.

I would like to hear more from you.
You have a creative mind and I'm glad you too do not like the whole abusive trope.

Karma*

Yep, and thank you for saying that. although I may be a nerd sometimes but I don't apply fiction like this to a reality. I know what I'm reading.

I'm glad ^^

Oops sorry meant to reply in general but ended up replying to last comment lol

Nah if you're asking if this ship 'good' i can't tell since there is MORE FUCKED UP than this ship but if you're asking in tiktok or instagram they would definitely says it's bad

Sorry niki! Was replying to the thread not you !

I think u missed my point but that's OK.

You just mentioned it "ignore, keep reading or drop it" but you're shitting about how people don't find this disturbing just because it really doesn't bother them?

Also for someone who said "ignore, keep reading or drop it" you really out here shitting on people who isn't bothered by this story. Just because stories like this doesn't disturb us doesn't mean we're defending his actions like what?? Where did you get that idea tho? People in here are pretty much agreeing how shitty he is. Again you're so loud and so fucking wrong at the same time

Aww, you feel targeted. That’s good! Thanks for sending 3 separate paragraphs struggling to defend yourself from invisible internet insults as if I’ll read all of your love letters. Did I hit too close to home? My bad. It’s my fault for not being as ignorant as you and GENUINELY shipping abusive fictional characters “for development”. Take scs of this conversation and post them on Reddit r/delusional, you’ll have lots of fans. But maybe don’t, because too much of other people’s opinions might kill you. We wouldn’t want you dead, but if it does happen, that’s natural selection- so do forgive. Take my advice and ask your friends & family what they think of your morals. It’s risky since you’re a walking condom ad, but you might have a chance on being agreed with if your stupidity and lack of rationality is genetic or influential. But let’s not be negative! Insight is good! Bye. I’ll need a lobotomy if I even give you another second of attention. You’re the reason BL community is hated. I could be doing better things. Like fucking your mom. Would you ship that? I swear I’ll only rape and abuse her for 2 years but I’ll be super nice after. Don’t forget to contact your psychiatrist or take meds! (≧∀≦)

honestly, I almost pissed my pants when I read this bc it was so funny. 10/10 comeback, do you have twt lets be friends fr fr

Nahhhhh i am saving this lowkey bro and will pull this out when someone says something so god damn stupid that it evaporates my senses, this is funny as helllllll.

Hahaha. Yes. Like, there's...

JH (chapter 34): I don't know what you're hoping to hear, but even if you do have feelings for me, it's not going to change our current relationship.

...and then there's...

JH (chapter 65): I purposefully acted in a way to gain his favor and interest, because I needed to ensure that HE BEHAVED ON MY TERMS, without any doubts or complaints.

If you go Limited Run's page on L*zhin's website, one of the tags it's filed under is #manipulative. Now, I know YO hid the USB to buy time (he wasn't gonna hide it until JH develops feelings for him), but JH is the biggest (if not only) manipulator of the two. I believe it's one reason why he initiated sex with YO. It made things easier for him. Unfortunately, it kind of backfired since he's obviously obsessed with YO now. Albeit, obliviously.

So, he'd still be like....

JH (chapter 55): What, did you really expect me to fall for you after another week or two? Don't even bet on it.

...but he'd also...

JH: *chapter 64* *chapter 68* *chapter 71* *chapter 72* (Actually, it's practically in every other chapter of the series, dammit. We're not blind, Kwon. You would pick YO each and every time)

I swear, if there was no manipulation on JH's side, if he was unequivocally purely business with YO (no sex and sweet stuff behind closed doors, really no extracurricular shit), I'd have been on his team. I'm not one for stupid ukes, but JH's mistakes/failures/stupidity trump all that of YO's and I'm not easily swayed by handsome faces, so...¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not aware that JH was manipulative nor I know how someone manipulates someone thank you for this!!

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THIS!!!!

yes! I agree with it bc it is true. He manipulated him but also said rude things to make YO feel lesser or more unsure. The drastic change of saying rude things and then being super sweet with touch is smth only a manipulator would do.

That's what makes it even so fu*ked up that YO is the one falling AGAIN for him and his tactics. Because those meet ups are also some kind of manipulation. JH decides what they do and how the meet up will end, he also tried in the first meet up to win him over by telling him how f sad his childhood is and current life is ... glad YO said no but sadly YO regretted it. Which means JH succeeded again and messed up YO with some sob story. It is so frustrating. I wish YO puts himself first now, I want him to not care about anyone anymore bc YO has his own trauma and worries. He is not responsible for anyone's happiness!

I do wish that we see later on when they (sadly) do get together that YO reacts negative to sex. I want the trauma that he lived through to show!!! I want YO to reject having sex and only want soft kisses and hugs. I beg for this so that JH sees how messed up his life was and how he just wants sb to care for him and not just to feel pleasure. YO deserves sb who loves him and is there for him emotionally.

Is JH aware that he is manipulative? Is someone aware that "they are manipulative"????

Mm mm...

Well it can go both ways: either they are aware or not.

Mostly narcissistic people are the ones who are aware and do try to gaslight and manipulate.
People who are unaware that they manipulate are just trash humans because in order for them to act this way means they want things to be done their ways and do not care how the other person feels.

YO knows that JH is kind of a manipulator but also not? Hard to say, because YO said: "ah I forgot, you always do whatever you wish without any regard of how the other person feels" or smth like that. So YO does know that JH is being a trash person and is selfish.
Doe YO forgetting it right after the second meet up makes me so angry, he was doing so fine and then his mind got messed up again just bc JH showered him w expensive actions. It shows 'us', the readers, that bad behavior and treatment can be forgiven by just gifting things and doing expensive activities.
That's why most readers here are hating on this development... I too am not happy with it.

I'm unsure if JH is aware that he manipulates, he did admit that he acted this way because he wanted YO to act on his terms. Which would mean that he is aware that he kinda manipulated him...
I think JH is that kind of trash human who is a brat and does not care about anyone or anything. He never got mistreated nor abused and he always had money to back him up. His solution to any problem is money, this can be not healthy and good for someone's personality and growth. They don't know how to act like a normal human being bc they never needed to.
JH is not mature enough for YO! They are not a good fit for each other.


If u ask me how I wanted it to go:
YO doing all the meet ups but not changing his mind and keep wanting to cut all contact. JH being desperate and a cry baby because YO doesn't act him the way he wants, this throws him off course and he gets to be an even bigger mess. He then has to learn how to solve this without money/looks or any other way that he did before. He needs to learn to open up and try to understand how human language f works.

After the third meet up, they should split ways. YO having the time to heal and move on and JH learning how to be a human being.
I would prefer a time skip where we see YO being a little bit older and doing pretty well. JH being a mess to this day and uneasy. YO still has this emptiness in him and he keeps going to that village where they went and always walks on the beach, JH had one day the same longing so after a few years they meet there.
Both being pretty surprised by it and then they decide to go for a drink. I want a lot of communication and talking, I want JH to open up and admit his fault and also want him to apologize and confess. YO not accepting immediately doe and is fine if they take it slow again.

I wish for a YO: 'he fell first' but Jh: 'he fell harder' trope. Yk.

I made some typos .. Sorry TT