Abel✯lied May 29, 2025 4:58 pm

I LOOOVE PENELOPE DO WE KNOW WHAT GAUGE THAT IS OR DO WE FIND OUT LATER

    Miss May 29, 2025 5:26 pm

    Gauge of her brainwashing

Abel✯lied May 28, 2025 10:01 pm

Me when I'm at the misunderstanding the plot competition, but another mangago reader shows up.

The main thesis, the point of their entire relationship, is stated multiple times in different chapters. They're both mortified at the idea of not knowing how those around them feel. Kakine manages this with an easygoing fake personality and Keidai can find out through hypnosis. Kakine idolizes Keidai for his refusal to make himself appealing to others, not knowing he's got a cheat. If you understand this basic idea that the story is revolving around, then the ending makes perfect sense.

Kakine IS upset. He's upset, that Keidai thought that his desire to know people was the problem, when they both feel that way. The climax of the story is Keidai understanding that he can just talk to Kakine. Kakine getting upset at his anatomy being violated would make no thematical sense and it'd be strange character wise also. The author reminds the reader multiple times, that this is Keidai intruding on something he shouldn't have access to, not Kakine being forced to do something he doesn't want.


If the hypnosis is a metaphor for something irl, then it'd be closer to stalking than assault. This manga is about the feeling of "I just wish I knew what he's thinking" and how this feeling is torturing both of the characters. If Kakine was upset at being forced into being sexual in the climax, it would totally change the meaning. Keidai would no longer be the "I just wish I knew what he's thinking" character, but the "I just wish he'd do what I want him to do" character, which goes against everything else. Like every other panel is Keidai basically screaming "I want to know him!" on the inside.

And noooooo. I'm not defending Keidai. Mainly because going into a psychological manga and expecting the protagonists to be good people Is duuuuuumb. If you want kind people doing reasonable things to each other, there are entire lists for that. But also, I think the Keidai I described here isn't a good person, he's still a stalker with no morals.
But!! He's thematically consistent.
I'm not typing this all out so I can jerk off with a guilt free heart or something, I'm not catholic, I just feel like these themes aren't hard to miss, they're repeated multiple times across the chapters, so we should engage with the story fully. This isn't a reality tv show, this is a written story that has something to say or at least something to ask.

    Lenzen June 16, 2025 5:30 pm

    Omg I didn't even consider that. This comment made me regain hope in mangago readers

    Mioro July 15, 2025 11:34 am

    I decided to read the story after seeing your answer on the forums but, did you by chance switch their names? Like your explanation of the plot makes perfect sense, except for the fact that the person committing the immoral acts is Kakine, not Keidai

    Abel✯lied July 15, 2025 5:01 pm
    I decided to read the story after seeing your answer on the forums but, did you by chance switch their names? Like your explanation of the plot makes perfect sense, except for the fact that the person committin... Mioro

    I might have luv :,(((((

Abel✯lied May 27, 2025 10:59 am

Oh noooo, the consequences of your actions...rip library kid

Abel✯lied May 26, 2025 9:58 pm

On one hand yipeeee, complex characters in a complex story, doing things that serve their goals and not those of the protagonists
On the other, if they kill one of the four black dudes with dreads on the entirety of mangago I will lose it

Abel✯lied May 26, 2025 7:01 pm

Somebody read Dead man switch....jkjkjk, this seems really cool and I like the art

Abel✯lied May 25, 2025 9:09 pm

Everybody is always like! Read the manhwa with the cute kid! Can't you see how cute this kid is! And they lure you in, because he is cute as hell and no one tells you to watch out for that fucking nightmare fuel of a guy.

    pigglypoof May 25, 2025 9:15 pm

    Me. I'm everybody. Yw (=・ω・=)

    Abel✯lied May 25, 2025 9:25 pm
    Me. I'm everybody. Yw (=・ω・=) pigglypoof

    Thank you genuinely a great story. Hate the fucking guy. Oh my god. He's burned into my brain.

Abel✯lied May 25, 2025 11:17 am

ARRGHHHH I'M ON TEAM DOUGLAS. BUT IT SHALL NOT HAPPEN. I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS go... Anyway can't wait for chapter 10 I'm on the edge of my seat

Abel✯lied May 24, 2025 11:37 pm

God bless the horniest, yet least perverted mc on the planet. He's no kinkmaster, he's just running on instincts babyyyy

Abel✯lied May 24, 2025 8:08 pm

Before I get into this, could someone let me know if it's a psychosexual manipulative dependent sort of taming, or the FL is an adult grooming ml sort of taming....many such cases.

    toastyBooksAndTea May 24, 2025 8:17 pm

    Yesss, I would like to know too because every time I see a manhwa/webtoon with taming in it I expect two grown adults getting it on with some psychological power play but instead it’s actually some gross ass woman grooming a kid

    toastyBooksAndTea May 24, 2025 8:33 pm

    ML seems like a normal dude chapter one but that’s only because it’s at a point in the future when he has to go to war leaving fl behind at home. I read up to ch 5 and ml seems seriously abused to the point that he does not have the mental state of an adult so yep, it’s giving grooming. The ml has adult body but acts like a kid probably because of the abuse. Fl is forced to marry him but ew why even is this the story. Manhwas/webtoons with taming are always so sus geez

    Ision May 24, 2025 9:33 pm

    No

    Abel✯lied May 24, 2025 10:03 pm
    ML seems like a normal dude chapter one but that’s only because it’s at a point in the future when he has to go to war leaving fl behind at home. I read up to ch 5 and ml seems seriously abused to the point... toastyBooksAndTea

    Uuuuuuuuughhhhhhh. Thank you for letting me know

    peritapera May 25, 2025 12:07 am

    Yall clearly dont know shit about being groomed/grooming LMFAO

    karossi May 25, 2025 1:44 am
    Yesss, I would like to know too because every time I see a manhwa/webtoon with taming in it I expect two grown adults getting it on with some psychological power play but instead it’s actually some gross ass ... toastyBooksAndTea

    I wouldn't say she's "grooming" him because aside from letting him drink her blood and her feeling embarrassed by it, and him being a grown man with interest in a woman's body -- she does not try to coerce him into anything sexual. in fact she stops him each time he crosses a line.

    His mental capacity isn't all there because he was abused heavily but I have a feeling that also has something to do with the curse. And while he cannot communicate well he seems to have an understanding of things. He's more like an adult beast than a "child".

    She's taking care of him moreso because she sees saving him as saving herself, both past and present. She's smart at playing with the poor cards she's been dealt.

    Miisha Necron May 26, 2025 12:02 am
    I wouldn't say she's "grooming" him because aside from letting him drink her blood and her feeling embarrassed by it, and him being a grown man with interest in a woman's body -- she does not try to coerce him ... karossi

    Ikr. In general, grooming would be way more slimy than whatever she did and said.
    On a side note, the empress is really nicely done here: she whips the beasty and keeps pets around; she is someone who deathly fears losing control over what is hers (she said the new crown princess might take her position).
    When she and the FL met, she didn't even try to humiliate, embarrass or manipulate the FL (her own thoughts were disturbing enough to make the FL faint)
    My point is this is what a real villainess with ultimate power looks like: would do anything to keep what they stole but still fear the day when they lose everything more than their own deaths
    I'm not saying I pardon not support the empress but damn does she have an actual personality (I just appreciate nicely done characters no matter how "bad" they are)

Abel✯lied May 24, 2025 3:34 pm

SHE'S SO CUTE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BLEH. CUTIE PATOOTIE!!!! idec that her husband gave their kids a loaded gun, that just means she's about to be single soon right

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