Lysbet has an agenda confirmed, Lysbet wants him to remain as an obedient slave confirmed, Lysbet knew about the abuse confirmed, the mage felt the need to lie to Lysbet to protect Slam confirmed...........truly a hard day for the Lysbets simps (me). At least the mage simps got something out of it (me). I don't think we can expect a big "muhahaha I was an evil mastermind all along" plot twist, but despite caring for Slan, what is best for him and what is best for her probably don't align.
Oh come on author. Really??? The side stories have four chapters now and Lyle has stumbled onto an exact fragment of a conversation, that could lead to misunderstandings THREE times???!!! The discussions about whether Ash is a bad lover or if Lyle is oversensitive are pointless, because the situation they're trying to solve is, that at any given point, there's a guy behind the corner saying the exact part of a conversation, that'd allow an eavesdropper to misunderstand....So dumb...
This is going to be an unpopular opinion and I'm probably going to disagree with myself in the morning but... It is kind of Tsumugi's fault right??
They have discussed children beforehand and Itoshi made it 100% clear, that he does not want children. They then had sex, where Itoshi wrapped his willy, but it slipped out.
Contraceptives are hard to get in Japan, yes, but "Teehee, all my ex-boyfriends did me raw all the time and I didn't get pregnant yet!" is a really immature response from Tsumugi, when she knows, that Itoshi would hate raising it.
She then finds out she is 100% pregnant and decides to keep the child. Note, that I do not consider this as "part of her fault" as keeping the child or not is entirely her business. But!!! She knows, again 100%, that Itoshi does not want to raise the child and when she sees that he's trying to be strong for her, she tries to talk it out with him.
Here is where I'm completely on Itoshi's side: what is there to talk out?? This isn't a topic where the right string of motivational words will change anything. He doesn't want a child, but the child isn't going away. Unless Tsumugi was going to suggest abortion or splitting up, there is nothing to discuss. Making him talk about it, when it's obvious even to her, how much he doesn't want the child, yet is staying strong for her, was not at all malicious, but it is hurtful. Obviously don't yell at your pregnant girlfriend, but since he met her family, he has not had it easy ughhh.
This is such a good manga aaaaaagghhhhhhh. So much nuance, so much personality, I love it. I will implode if we don't get a someone-listens-to-Itoshi chapter soon though (note: listen not as in "I can hear you out", but as in "We can do something about this"), bro literally doesn't trust anyone, but Tsumugi and now he has to face his worst nightmare to be with her ahhh.
I agree that Tsumugi is at fault for thinking it would be fine and not doing anything. However, I do think they need to talk regardless. Itoshi is falling to pieces and pretending to be fine. While the baby isn't going away there are things that can be done like Itoshi going to therapy or parenting classes because his main issues appear to be that he doesn't want to be like his own parents.
No it was an accident. Equally their fault. And you can’t just run to the store to get a Plan b in Japan. You have to be prescribed it and pay a good amount of money. Really knowing his hold up about the idea of a child he should have asked her to go to an appointment and then paid for the medication well ahead of time for accidents like this since emergency contraceptives are best taken within 24 hrs of intercourse. They both are train wrecks tho ngl. And it ain’t been fun for a while but I gotta see it thru.
Author, I love and live for you and I've trusted you with transgressions, that would make me drop any other manga, so I neeeeeeed you to drop that pro-life shit.
They can both dislike that solution, the thought of that happening to their baby can make them sick, but I don't want my local yandere stalker to be saying shit like "You thought I was that kind of person...?", at the mention of an abortion of a fetus, they both agreed at some point in time they didn't want.
Japan is a pronatalist nation. The mangaka is not alone in her viewpoint.
Abortions are permitted up to 22 weeks and are not covered under the national insurance, so tmir has to be paid for out of pocket.
IUDs and oral contraceptives are uncommon. Plan B/Morning After Pill is not easy to acquire.
In any case, they're both in the wrong. Primarily ML because he should have been honest about WHY he doesn't want children and his trauma.
Wait, so is the whole crazy-eyes-face, "I'm never going to love him, but let's pretend", double-faced arc over, just like that??? But that was my favorite part! That's what made it cool to me! Don't pine over him over one night of sex, where he yelled at you! This is why you shouldn't wait till marriage, your libido will make your forgive and forget everything smh.
I mean those are both bad, but being married wouldn't make that any better right? If the guy is so uncaring, that'd he'd ghost you after sex, he wouldn't make a great husband. My argument is about being certain of how your life would be like as a married couple, before you get married. Better for a guy to tell you "I guess I'm not into women" after stealing your virginity in an unfortunate first relationship, than an unfortunate first marriage.
U can still get to know each other before u just get married, when u realize u don't wanna have a future with ur current partner then u just break up and still not have had sex with them. I'm aware manipulative ppl exist but its not the case for everyone. If u keep having sex with ppl ur dating without marriage then ur chances of catching diseases and what not also increase.(its not like ppl get married 3-4 times in 2yrs)
I don't think that you have to be unkind or manipulative, to realize you don't want to continue a relationship after having sex with somebody.
Maybe one person has a high libido and the other doesn't really like sex that much at all. Maybe one enjoys some freaky stuff, but their partner does not. Maybe they realize they're gay after having sex with the opposite gender for the first time.
None of these make someone a bad person or an uncaring partner, but they might make someone think "I don't want to have this kind of sex for the rest of my life". It's better to realize that before you get married, to avoid the heartache, the financial burden, the legal troubles and just social tension in general.
I'm not saying have sex as soon as you start dating, but that you might not want to legally and financially bind yourself to a person who might be incompatible with you for whatever reason. I also think this about other aspects of relationships, like cohabitation and family plans. You don't want to find out your partner doesn't know how to wash the dishes and wants you to bear 10 children after marriage.
Also don't be silly, wrap your willy. If you're in a relationship with someone and they aren't dickheads, they'll tell you if they have some active STD and probably use protection regardless.
Umm.....everything you listed is something I thought (except those who realise after getting married) ppl are supposed to communicate. I mean I'm aware that many(if not most) ppl don't really have a convo abt their preferences in the bed unless they're in the act but here's the thing, like hear me out, if yk u want a future with a person
Surely you should have a convo abt ur preferences and such at some point. Although I get that with ppl being judgemental and stuff one may not exactly feel comfortable. I'm just saying don't just say that waiting till marriage is all wrong and all. If someone failed to communicate that is something they gotta work on. Ah also, unfortunately for no one I don't have a willy ;)
The problem is, most people won't really know their preferences, it they've never had sex before. Reading or watching porn of it is one thing, but it's not the same as experience, so discussing it before might not solve that issue. I agree that communication of preferences is something once should work on, big you can't share your preferences, if you have no idea what they are.
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*I don't think it's "wrong" to wait until marriage, as it doesn't affect anyone else, but it's not a great thing either. I don't see what difference it makes whether you wait until you're both sure of yourselves, and until you're ready to marry, except one has tons of paperwork, financial cost and other issues. You're just risking a lot of unnecessary issues for no reason at all.









OSAKA-CHAN?!??!??? HOW'D SHE BECOME A TEACHER. A prayer for her students...