
Wait, so is the whole crazy-eyes-face, "I'm never going to love him, but let's pretend", double-faced arc over, just like that??? But that was my favorite part! That's what made it cool to me! Don't pine over him over one night of sex, where he yelled at you! This is why you shouldn't wait till marriage, your libido will make your forgive and forget everything smh.

I mean those are both bad, but being married wouldn't make that any better right? If the guy is so uncaring, that'd he'd ghost you after sex, he wouldn't make a great husband. My argument is about being certain of how your life would be like as a married couple, before you get married. Better for a guy to tell you "I guess I'm not into women" after stealing your virginity in an unfortunate first relationship, than an unfortunate first marriage.

U can still get to know each other before u just get married, when u realize u don't wanna have a future with ur current partner then u just break up and still not have had sex with them. I'm aware manipulative ppl exist but its not the case for everyone. If u keep having sex with ppl ur dating without marriage then ur chances of catching diseases and what not also increase.(its not like ppl get married 3-4 times in 2yrs)

I don't think that you have to be unkind or manipulative, to realize you don't want to continue a relationship after having sex with somebody.
Maybe one person has a high libido and the other doesn't really like sex that much at all. Maybe one enjoys some freaky stuff, but their partner does not. Maybe they realize they're gay after having sex with the opposite gender for the first time.
None of these make someone a bad person or an uncaring partner, but they might make someone think "I don't want to have this kind of sex for the rest of my life". It's better to realize that before you get married, to avoid the heartache, the financial burden, the legal troubles and just social tension in general.
I'm not saying have sex as soon as you start dating, but that you might not want to legally and financially bind yourself to a person who might be incompatible with you for whatever reason. I also think this about other aspects of relationships, like cohabitation and family plans. You don't want to find out your partner doesn't know how to wash the dishes and wants you to bear 10 children after marriage.
Also don't be silly, wrap your willy. If you're in a relationship with someone and they aren't dickheads, they'll tell you if they have some active STD and probably use protection regardless.

Umm.....everything you listed is something I thought (except those who realise after getting married) ppl are supposed to communicate. I mean I'm aware that many(if not most) ppl don't really have a convo abt their preferences in the bed unless they're in the act but here's the thing, like hear me out, if yk u want a future with a person

Surely you should have a convo abt ur preferences and such at some point. Although I get that with ppl being judgemental and stuff one may not exactly feel comfortable. I'm just saying don't just say that waiting till marriage is all wrong and all. If someone failed to communicate that is something they gotta work on. Ah also, unfortunately for no one I don't have a willy ;)

The problem is, most people won't really know their preferences, it they've never had sex before. Reading or watching porn of it is one thing, but it's not the same as experience, so discussing it before might not solve that issue. I agree that communication of preferences is something once should work on, big you can't share your preferences, if you have no idea what they are.
I don't think it's

*I don't think it's "wrong" to wait until marriage, as it doesn't affect anyone else, but it's not a great thing either. I don't see what difference it makes whether you wait until you're both sure of yourselves, and until you're ready to marry, except one has tons of paperwork, financial cost and other issues. You're just risking a lot of unnecessary issues for no reason at all.

Sorry to those who've gotten glimpse of my long essay, about this being a betrayal of his character and how I might drop the manga for this, I finished
the chapter too early.
This is... Actually good?? I mean horrible, terrible for Itoshi, but I'm here for Itoshi angst. Itoshi angst is wonderful in comparison to the horrible possibility of this just being Tsumugi-gets-everything-she-wants.
Once again, because they haven't betrayed me so far, I'm putting my trust in the author. I'm sure they can tell the story in a way that explores the perspective of both of the characters. Pleaseeeeeee I need Itoshi angst, I need him to finally break down from it all, because he clearly can't communicate his needs in another way. Well, I guess there's no romantic and kind way to say "I don't want to be the father of our baby" ughnhhh.... Good luck author

Mc nooooo, don't abandon the meat of this manga!!!! Don't abandon your strength! Your modern values are what saved your sister's life and gave her the ability to live freely! Hide it better, but do not submit! This is such an interesting little manga and the protagonist's perspective on nobility is what makes it shine the brightest! Were he like his father, his sister would know nothing of swords and quietly wasted away her life with a fan in hand.

Alexa, delete all previous comments about Karlyle overthinking and needing therapy, because bonded??? Mf, you were bonded before and you're not going to tell you boyfriend, even though you know he has extreme trust issues?? Also why are all your nasty ass friends such gossips, what kind of company are you keeping?!!

No, sorry, I'm not over it, why are we acting like we're trying our hardest to win the school festival and not like a little princess was killed. Why are all the adults so relaxed and why is mc more interested in proving she can do this to her dad, than her friend that she stabbed and left in a burning building.

OMG SO REAL. like why are we just glossing over it? A princess died. Even if she wasn't that influential she was still a princess. I just feel like they should explore that emotion with stabbing someone a little more clearly then anything. And the fact that the MC is just trying to prove herself innocent is crazy. Like she doesn't even care about her friend.

The circumstances are suspicious, what’s the point of crying over someone when you have a good idea that they might not even be dead. Not to mention, a lot of people live in denial even for YEARS after someone’s death, let alone right after it with weird circumstances. Is it really that weird she’s not crying her eyes out and tries to confirm it first? Also, would u rather have her screaming in grief rather than potentially saving the princess’s life? I think the royal couple is the weirdest here, as they didn’t even bother to check on their daughter or even send someone to retrieve her.

What makes you think she doesn’t even care? She’s the only one actually going back to find out what really happened, she finds circumstances suspicious. She’s clearly shown to be unsure of hurting her, so she probably has a good idea that she didn’t actually die. If MC is innocent then the princess probably isn’t dead, that’s how I see her approach. To me it seems like MC is the only one who actually cares. Her parents didn’t even bother to try to help her. And so what if the queen “griefs her”, they didn’t even send anyone to retrieve her. Stabbing doesn’t instantly kill you, especially in the world of magic, I’m sure they could’ve done better than “leaving her to die”.
Author, I love and live for you and I've trusted you with transgressions, that would make me drop any other manga, so I neeeeeeed you to drop that pro-life shit.
They can both dislike that solution, the thought of that happening to their baby can make them sick, but I don't want my local yandere stalker to be saying shit like "You thought I was that kind of person...?", at the mention of an abortion of a fetus, they both agreed at some point in time they didn't want.
I really hope that the author meant it from the stand point of forcing the gf to abort when she doesn’t want it. But I don’t think it’ll go the way I think tho T-T
Japan is a pronatalist nation. The mangaka is not alone in her viewpoint.
Abortions are permitted up to 22 weeks and are not covered under the national insurance, so tmir has to be paid for out of pocket.
IUDs and oral contraceptives are uncommon. Plan B/Morning After Pill is not easy to acquire.
In any case, they're both in the wrong. Primarily ML because he should have been honest about WHY he doesn't want children and his trauma.