Abel✯lied July 21, 2024 12:37 am

IT HAS A HAOPY ENDING NOW I'M SO GLADDD WAAAAAHHH

Abel✯lied July 21, 2024 12:12 am

Awesome, I don't care if it ends in a polycule or a fight to the death, go get your girl!

Abel✯lied July 20, 2024 9:45 pm

Genuinely hilarious, that this manga tries to paint itself as feminist, when it's anything but that.

"See! Look how evil Amihama is, being so brutally blunt, that she's mean!" Meanwhile the story never shuns from being brutal towards her"She reminds me of an animals" "She's so fat" "She dresses poorly"

"Look how pick-me-ish Amihama is!" Like the story isn't literally constantly asking you to pick the kind feminine woman, while putting Amihama down, because of her appearance.

I'm not saying Amihama is good, misunderstood or even normal. If I, in real life, worked at this workplace, I would hate her and love Honda. But this isn't real life, this is a story someone wrote and drew. They made Amihama a caricature of a rude person, then made her fat, loud, sexually liberated and unfashionable to gross you out.

Then they drew a younger, polite, quieter, beautiful woman, which you're supposed to obviously pick over her.

Wow, the ugly fat woman thinks that a man likes her, when he was actually just using her! Isn't she gross? Anyway, back to the model, that nearly cries tears of joy, when she receives a pretty shirt from a business partner.

I don't normally care about this stuff, it's pretty common in the lowbrow mangas, but c'mon! What does this story think it is, to lecture me, about how a proper woman should behave, when it makes such an insulting caricature out of its main character!
"It's just a joke!" Alright, who's it aimed at, what makes it funny and what is the author trying to say about the world through it?

    Abel✯lied July 20, 2024 10:04 pm

    Ok but the weird little ship that being built, is kind of great. Go and catch that confidence king.

    Nizze July 29, 2024 11:00 pm

    Exactly! I was like... saba saba vs saba saba where? There's no competition there? And the other one wasn't "saba saba" in no moment? And why was she made pudgy and ugly? Her personality and delusions are the problem... but why make her look bad for being sexually free? Even her harassment hitting on those 2 guys from sales would be seen another way if she was hotter than them.
    Honestly this feels like they put a bad personality on her to excuse bashing on a fat woman without bad repercussions.

    SlothDragon August 29, 2024 10:00 pm

    I tend to look at things on surface level, so while I don’t disagree with you, I didn’t get that impression. I actually think she’s cute, but her personality ruins her attractiveness. The animal comment I took as the guy being an asshole, not a comment on her personally. I also don’t think she is being brutally honest, I think she’s just being mean. I take her as the type of girl to look down on others for being girly, propagating that ‘not like other girls’ discrimination and using it as a way to make herself feel superior. She didn’t come across as unfashionable to me, just very bad at her job. I think if she wanted to, Amihama could be really cool. Sexual liberation and honesty aren’t bad, but I think the point of her is that she twists them into something bad. It is true that this manga uses harmful stereotypes, but I don’t think we should focus solely on those. Some people are prefer Amihama’s type and dislike Honda, and some people like the author feel the opposite. The characters were written with that influence, but they aren’t extreme in my opinion.

    Nizze August 29, 2024 10:32 pm
    I tend to look at things on surface level, so while I don’t disagree with you, I didn’t get that impression. I actually think she’s cute, but her personality ruins her attractiveness. The animal comment I... SlothDragon

    Nope. If you consider the japanese beauty standards it gets very clear. From the big "garish" earings to always wearing the same kind of clothes, flats and blump lips and small eyes. Everything on her is the opposite of the "Ideal woman" in their standards. On the other hand Honda's only deviation of that image is being tactless, the saba saba thing. The only thing they didn't make this way is the hair color.
    If the point was to highlight only Amihama's bad personality they'd have the same level of good looks on their standards. If it was Honda's great personality and competence she'd be the less good looking one. Making Amihama's appearance like that is just another excuse to badmouth her. Pretty privilege is real and she'd get away with a lot of things she's done if she was drawn as a beautiful woman.

Abel✯lied July 20, 2024 9:06 pm

HYPED HYPED HYPED HYPED HYPED Love that the mc isn't the nervous shy lot, or the quirky girl, give me that toxic situationship in all it's glory. Also, the artist is the same one as the one that did Villainess maker, which was another manhwa where there was a big kill or fuck tension, so they're right for the job.

Abel✯lied July 20, 2024 4:06 pm

Gang I'm reading along the good translations, and seeing you all here hating Derek is making me nervous lol, what did that ahole do this time

    cry. (இдஇ; ) July 20, 2024 5:00 pm

    spoiler








    he brought Ivonne on Penelope's birthday party when she's supposed to to stay inside, THE DISRESPECT HE BROUGHT PENELOPE OMFG

    Abel✯lied July 20, 2024 5:09 pm
    spoilerhe brought Ivonne on Penelope's birthday party when she's supposed to to stay inside, THE DISRESPECT HE BROUGHT PENELOPE OMFG cry. (இдஇ; )

    I see! Murder is the only solution.

Abel✯lied July 20, 2024 3:56 pm

THEY DON'T WANT TO MISS LUNCH TOGETHER, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY ONCE IT TWICE A WEEK

Abel✯lied July 18, 2024 3:09 am

Cute dumb guy type is an enigmatic cool guy,
enigmatic cool guy's type is a smart chill guy,
smart chill guy's type is a beautiful effeminate guy,
beautiful effeminate guy's type is an outgoing social guy,
outgoing social guy's type is a popular capable guy,
popular capable guy's type is a reserved quiet guy,
And finally completing the circle, reserved quiet guy's type is a cute dumb guy.

This might seem like pointless info, but if you go in the opposite direction, you can see that the person who likes them is always almost the opposite of the person they like. Truly tragic. If someone wants to play matchmaker and find a way to pair these people off, in a way that doesn't change their toes completely, feel free to do so under this comment.

Abel✯lied July 16, 2024 8:33 pm

Positives and negatives so far (imo)

Positives:
- The shading is really interesting, I like the mix of gray and skin tone, it gives it a unique look.
-The design of the two main characters is pretty cool
- Now and then, some really cool panels pop up, like the one with Won replacing the dead student in the dream sequence
- The brown haired friend also an interesting character. I can't wait for him to go apeshit again. I kind of wish he was the main love interest, but he's not tall and ripped so there's no chance of that happening

Negatives:
-Shrinkwrap abs. I hate looking at them, can't we as a civilization move past this? Ripped people don't look like this, even people who specifically work out for sexy abs don't look like this. It makes everyone look like Liefeld's captain America

- The pacing is all wrong. Like think about it, what happened in this chapter? What new information did we learn? How did the story progress? I guess they made eye contact, which is something, but c'mon. The author already established that the mc doesn't like Won, why waste so many panels just on the mc looking angry

- Won is kind of generic. I do like that he's genuinely just a horrible person that wants to see the mc suffer, instead of pulling the "I'm never going to let anyone hurt you (by hurting you)". The manhwa has been hyping up how weird and powerful he is for 11 chapters now without showing anything, so if he's not Zombie Jesus or something, I'll be pissed

- Repetitive dialog. "Stay in my room, you'll be safe!" "No, I won't! And I don't like you!""Stay in my room, you'll be safe!" "No, I won't! And I don't like you!""Stay in my room, you'll be safe!" "No, I won't! And I don't like you!" WE KNOW, YOU'VE ESTABLISHED THAT ALREADY

-The tone is weird? On one hand, it tries to be like killing stalking, in the way that it doesn't pretend to care about morality. It's a story about a man being horrible and that's what you're getting. On the other hand, the way it constantly draw attention to mc's red flustered chest makes it feel like generic smut. I guess since the series is new, you can't really know what they're going for yet. I wonder if they're going to fall in love at some point, or if it's going to be 60 chapters of toxic smut with other people trying to get in the way and ending with murder. Idk.

- Actually back to the sex scenes, we all feel secondhand pain when he's bleeding out of his ass right? So I automatically assumed that those panels were there to show that it isn't meant to be taken as sexy, but as horrific. But, there are so many bleeding anuses, that it's just a kink of this specific manhwa right? Like if you wanted to convey that it's painful, one panel of it, or maybe even just some blood on the ground would do. This is not me judging it, it'd be silly to judge this sort of story on morality, but this just another example of the tone being unclear.

Overall, there are better things to read on here I think, even if you enjoy some darker stuff

    ♡HaeRim21♡ July 16, 2024 9:47 pm

    I prefer reading your opinion than reading every chapter.
    Thank you so much for sharing your positive and negative review about this manhwa !! I exactly thought the same whilst reading and I am immensely decieved because it was not what I personally expected ╥﹏╥

    I leave it to people who'll appreciate it better (▰˘◡˘▰)

Abel✯lied July 15, 2024 12:41 am

She said I can fix him and for the first time I absolutely believe her

Abel✯lied July 14, 2024 11:24 pm

Considering that each chapter has like five close ups on the boy's chest, I propose, that was if we gave him a shirt, this story will finish ten chapters sooner

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