
My roses and champagne deprived ass read novel spoilers lol and yea Caesar you could've done better ig

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So he raped Leewon again after they fight that who is worse, Caesar who slept with multiple people without emotions or Leewon who slept with his exes before. They fight on the way to Caesar's home that they both kissed and caressed their sex partners so they're both worse. Caesar is pissed and he drinks A LOT OF ALCOHOL and without any lube or stretching, rapes Leewon for a long fcking time without any love or emotions whatsoever, Leewon is in pain but Caesar isn't stopping so Leewon thoughts this time they're both going to die (Caesar from his alcohol consumption and Leewon from sex (read rape) so he accepts he was at fault, they reconcile (?) And fuck again and sleep. Also he beats up Vladimir (?) for seeing Leewon naked and they have a ice hockey match to settle something that I don't remember

Damnnnnnnnn.. I haven't read this far but I think they both are like red flags at this point..I don't know.. somehow every time I read them I feel like they deserve each other...but Caesar that thing is wayyyyy too much now...it started pretty decent and then suddenly he raped leewon....and after that the story only went downhill for me...I kinda dropped it ...but my curious ass couldn't handle and now I am depressed again after reading it

Yeah lol they're both fucked up but I do think Caesar was the catalyst for Leewon's downgrading morality/mental state. I mean no same person would stay with Caesar and love him after all the shit he's done. He started off so strong if he didn't rape him twice (both times it was brutal as hell) I would've understood his character and love (?) (Btw he is part of the mafia at the end of the day and they're not really normal people as well soooo it's understandable). I do like both of them though however insane they may be it's still interesting asf to read it. I just gave up trying to understand their train of thought at this point. Just turn off your brain and enjoy I guess

They're novel spoilers, the manhwa isn't that far yet iirc so you can search 'Roses and Champagne novel spoilers ' and click on novelupdates spoilers forum. These specific spoilers are on page 6 (again, iirc) the manhwa on pawmanga is up to the part where Caesar goes to Leewon's father's house to pick him up

It’s not even only about childhood for Caesar, it’s his entire life. He’s in the Mafia where crimes, SA and shit is basically normal. He’s interesting psychologically, same for Leewon but tbh i wouldn’t say their relationship is romantic or at least i hope it’s not meant to be. It could be more a good case of Stockholm considering Leewon empathized despite having been raped and shot

The starting few chapters were so fking disgusting I can't believe I want Taeju now. Someone please smack some sense in me

A real-life shitbag who does the stuff we've seen Taeju doing - rape through force, coerced sex via the pressure of debt and threat of forced prostitution in case of slow repayment, social isolation for months by forcing Euihyun to stay in his house, among other acts - has only one place to be : the prison.
Taeju is a fictional character who was made to be both horrible and very attractive, via his mannerisms, his humour, his physique and face, and is remarkably well drawn.
Being attracted to the positive facets of this character doesn't force you in any way to endorse the horrible acts he committed and justify them.
Minimizing those acts may make real-life social violence victims in this website feel uncomfortable or even unsafe.
Protecting people in real life by listening to victims, caring for their physical and mental wellbeing, and if you can and want fighting for their rights, is a good thing, at the very least reorient them towards supportive non-profit organisations and - only if they want to - mental health professionals that have been recognised as respectful to victims.
Even if a streamer or influencer or actor etc you appreciate is accused of a crime in real life, do not threaten or harass or condone the harassment of the accuser or accusers, it can cause harm to them.
It's okay to like a character that was clearly created to be likeable. Even in real life most people do have redeemable and likeable features.
If you even find yourself in a toxic relationship, protect yourself ! Talk to others, state your limits, leave them if you want. You have no duty to forgive them or "not abandon them" or anything like that. If they harm you they must stop. Seek help with non-profit organisations, mental and/or physical health professionals and/or legal professionals.
Don't expect real life toxic partners to "suddenly redeem themselves", "suddenly" turn green". Real life people are more complicated than that. And if they want to have, they need at least a long time and effort accompanied by mental health professionals. You don't have a duty to be theirs.
Be safe.
Ask for help where you can find it whenever you need.
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Bestie thankyou so much I was just about to stray from my beliefs. I mean I usually stay away from creeps altogether so I'll never fall for someone like Taeju irl but in recent chapters he's become so attractive I forget every shit he's done. But dw I'll never fall for ppl like him especially since I've learnt my lesson from these toxic ahh bls

Why're sasaengs and stalker fans drawn like this, fat and conventionally unattractive?

Real life story, there is this Japanese woman who stabbed a guy she thought was her boyfriend but he was just a host. Thankfully he survived, but the public response was very off, people made fun clubs for her and were petitioning her release from jail… she was very pretty… people wanted to be stabbed by her as well, and this was real life can you imagine?!
Get a man who'll go to jail just to propose to you
Actually only do that if you are over the age and are illegal adult. Then yes, but if you are below the age of consent, no no don't don't do that.
LMAOOO thank you for the much needed clarification
I'm sorry I couldn't understand what're they saying
they're saying sure a man who will go to jail over you is admirable if theyre going to jail in defense of their love of you but this only applies if all parties are consenting adults. the other circumstances where a person might be willing to go to jail for you is if you are an underage teen and they are an adult. they are by default signing up to go to jail for you, but in this case it would be for statuatory rape because theyre aiming for a minor which is not romantic or charming at all. stay away from the grown men who have to commit statuatory rape to be with you, theyre acting like a pedophile being with someone underage and need to redirect their attention to people their own age
Thank you so much for the explanation. I also didn't get the comment even after reading it thrice, I didn't know if its because I lack sleep, or my brain is not braining, or probably both. ಠ‿ಥ
Thankyou for the explanation English is my third language ╥﹏╥ I guess now their comment makes so much sense........ They were right tho this only applies to consenting adults (like Ruediger and Judith)
you're welcome! glad to clarify
Oh gosh yes