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I also can't really be mad at him ... until now he actually didn't do anything bad so I dont want to assume things and I still don't give up the hope that they all end up together

...Lucky Paradise, Don't Mix Business with Pleasure! and Mayday Mayday Mayday all have toxic leads. It's lazy writing in my opinion if the only way you know how to write a toxic character is through making them rape and abuse others.
Also it's perfectly fine to enjoy the series BUT you've got to admit story and character wise it's trash. People defend this series as though it's peak writing. I watched all of Vampire Knight (manga is worse) and Diabolik Lovers back in the day and I know those series were trash lmao

ur real for that but lucky paradise sucks plus doesn’t he s/a his ex while the ex is tied down or something and then goes to the mc after..

OMG thank you! Everything you said is valid, I think the same!

The fact that the author says "I like toxic top, but apparently some readers don't feel the same " makes me think she really didn't understand the critics. Darling, I too love stories with a toxic top, but here the characters of jaekyung and Dan are super badly written just like the scenario !

Personally, I loved BJ Alex, and for me it's a very good example of a well-written toxic top with a beautiful redemption arc. So I don't understand why the quality of Jinks is so bad.
Another good example of a toxic top is Killing Stalking, where the relationship between the two characters is clearly predator/victim (with a Stockholm syndrome). But despite their clearly toxic relationship, the characters are superbly written and endearing in their own way, in the sense that you understand why they do what they do. There is rape yes, but the rape scenes are written as rape, and not 'sexy hot sex with a sexy bad boy' like in Jinks.
And yet I'm a big fan of rape scenes when they're well written. But it seems like the author is trying to gaslight us by making us believe that the rapes are 'hot sex'. A simple way to rectify this ambiguity, in my opinion, would have been to put more emphasis on the fact that Dan is clearly delulu. That his love for jaekyung, his naivety, his lack of experience, and the power inbalance, prevent him from seeing how abusive the relationship is. But I don't think the author emphasizes it enough. And it would have been nice to have jaekyung's internal thoughts from time to time, because we have literally NO information on his way of thinking, his emotions etc...

to be perfectly honest with you, I dropped Lucky Paradise a while back. Too much angst and made me genuinely depressed Apparently the leads still ended up together even though it's hella toxic and somehow got worse

exactly I think so as well.. It could be interesting if Dan wasn't literally Yui from DL (thx for the comparison, I could not think of a better one myself), there could be real consequences for Jaekyung.
But this way I hate all the characters

I didn't even mention the power imbalance in their relationship, thank you. When I see people act like BJ Alex was as toxic as Jinx I honestly get annoyed. Jiwon said from the beginning they'd be fuck buddies and Dong-gyun agreed to it because he had a pre existing parasocial relationship with the Alex persona, making his love way more believable, even when Jiwon was such an asshole. Dong-gyun overstepped boundaries when he almost fucked Jiwon's lively hood when he got drunk. Dong-gyun also had a spine unlike Dan. Dong-gyun walking away was far more satisfying and well written.
My comment has a lot of dislikes but I haven't seen a valid argument why people are so passionate about this series and treat it like it's top tier literature.

Honestly though, are Dan and Yui both victims? Of course but they do nothing for themselves and just let their abusers, abuse them and then fall in love with them. It's infuriating to watch, I find it even more infuriating with Dan cuz he's a full ass adult with an education and the means to leave.

ME TOOOO it actually had me seething i dropped it ch 5 because i couldn’t take it lmfaaooo but near the end chapters i clicked on it bc i was curious and basically he s/a his ex after the mc confesses his feelings to the dude and then he meets up with the mc after like wtf

Yes, they are victims for sure, there is no doubt in that - Dan was trapped because of the money for some time and than by his sense of loyalty (I think? I don't read it that carefully tbh xd). And even if it was just emotional, I do not want to blame the victim for staying. But realistically - he should be able to tell that what happens to him is plain wrong and twisted and there was nothing good not even in the beginning. Not thinking that there were good times WHEN THEY ARE JUST SITTING DOWN and for once Jaekyung is not a pissed off chihuahua (like bruh if he at least did actually something good). Why did he think of that and wasn't reminded of at least one of the other absolutely psychotic incidents..
You know what I mean?? He left because he thought Jaekyung and the team were mad at him not because his client is a fucking lunatic xddddd

THIS!!! You have all my support for this opinion Like she wasn't bad of a author - sure was bj alex sometimes flat? yes. but it had a reasonable plot with quite realistic responses from the characters. Jinx? nah..

The wheeze that came outta me is wild.
It is sad how right you are..

I legit made the connection reading the new season, seeing Toma in colours

We're all Kotone lol

They were just kinda friends with benefits.