Girlga August 8, 2024 7:48 pm

The characters and lore is all good, i like the artstyle and the side profiles (they actually have normal sized noses)....
My only complaint is in how the bottom in the first volume looks like a child #-.-)
And in the 2nd volume the bottom looks barely 18... Is it really that hard to draw a twink in their 20s? Most guys look pretty grown in their teens, they dont have to be buff either... Why is this such a weird trope #-.-)
Its hard for me to enjoy any stories with weirdly drawn (extremely young looking) characters...
But again, everything else is fine ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    ReviewRaptor August 8, 2024 8:52 pm

    This always depends on the artstyle.
    Take Lucky Star and co for example; the artstyle heavily influecnes the look sof characters. And that's why sometimes it feels off.
    I think it's only because both of the bottoms are young and much smaller than the semes, that's why they come across child-like to people who aren't used to size differences.

    I personally have no problem with this, but I can see people having an issue with it if they haven't read many stories like this or are a giant/tiny little runt irl themselves. It makes it much easier to not view them as children just because of the size if you are tiny irl yourself. Lucky me, i guess. XD

    Girlga August 8, 2024 9:28 pm
    This always depends on the artstyle.Take Lucky Star and co for example; the artstyle heavily influecnes the look sof characters. And that's why sometimes it feels off.I think it's only because both of the botto... ReviewRaptor

    The thing is, while I agree with your point, lucky star does not have any sex scenes, so having kawaii art style is ok in my brain. And even when a guy irl is very thin and short, they still have pointy shoulders, boney knees, SOME hair at least, you know? Drawing small male bottoms with smooth edges and no hair is def a little weird for me, and if you look at my profile i have read a bit of stories lol it IS a weird trope that a lot of authors draw fully intentionally to look like that
    And yes, I know some irl guys do have smooth, young and femenine features even in their 30s, but they are not common and it almost feels like 80% of bottoms in all the stories are drawn like this... Its strange to me

    ReviewRaptor August 8, 2024 10:35 pm
    The thing is, while I agree with your point, lucky star does not have any sex scenes, so having kawaii art style is ok in my brain. And even when a guy irl is very thin and short, they still have pointy shoulde... Girlga

    But it COULD have, which wouldn't have changed how the artist's style looked. XD

    Drawing basically a VERY feminine male as a bottom is basically the norm in BL tho. No hair, very rounded features, etc.. That's simply normal, no matter where you go unless you are coming across artists with a semi-realistic style or bara-type artwork. And mind you; THESE 'twinks' here are nothing compared to most artist's bottoms, that really do look 99% like a woman. You better get used to it, because finding a rounded, feminine bottom is more common than one that actually looks male.
    I got 15+ years of reading BL under my belt, so I can definitely say it's very much the norm across the board. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
    I prefer the more male-looking bottoms too, but some artists simply prefer the rounded, cutesy looking ones. That's why it takes some time to find your corner of prefered art and artists. (Still barely found mine tbh.)
    Just think of these rounded bottoms the same as those obnoxious, dumb, gigantically doe-eyed schoolgirls from old shoujo stories. Just a different flavour of style one will either like or loathe. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    Thing is, you have to remember that we are talking ASIAN artists here. Rounded features are not only normal for most but also the beauty standard, which is what the artists know and hence use for their character designs. And remember: Even a 50 year old lady can look like a 25 year old over in asia. And the vast majority of young males DOES look very young and youthful compared to our western men if we compared them based on age. Plus, the standard for drawing 'pretty bottoms' is usually: they must be very feminine. (Some artists prefer drawing manly men instead, but others choose the opposite. Which is VERY much liked by the asian readers, hence why it's so popular and pretty much the norm.)

    Just look around and you'll eventually find some artists that have artstyles that are more to your liking. One leads to another and you will eventually find more of what you prefer.
    My start for that (and getting away from the girly looking bishounen bottoms) was Akira Norikazu. Amazing art that was so unlike anything I had seen before, which awoke my taste for semi-realistic art and buff guys. XD

    But I digress.
    My advice in general would be to see it more as a drawing style and pay attention to what non-seme males look like in the stories, that helps remind you that it's not a child/dwarfism situation you are witnessing but just a smaller man with a HUGE and buff seme. Might take a while to get into your memory, but it can work for sure. Exposure matters tho and not many have such huge size differences. So asking for recommendations in Questions or such would be my best guess to find them.

    LayLights August 8, 2024 10:39 pm

    Honestly, it's kind of hard to explain why anyone likes anything. We can't really control the things we like. I think the important distinction to make here, above all else, is that it's fictional. For most people, part of why these types of things do it for them is PURELY because it's fictional. And more often than not, fictional stories AREN'T gonna reflect accurately or realistically to how the world actually is. Which MANY people prefer it to be that way, since they use the realm of fiction to get a break from the mundane and stressful routines of their lives.

    Honestly, though, I don't think it, like... Comes from a place of what you MAY be suggesting or implying. The worst I think it could be is a stupid amount of feminization of the uke, which some may argue to be heteronormative, but I'd argue that- it's porn. FICTIONAL porn. I don't think it really matters as long as we don't sexualize and and objectify actual people.

    That's not to say there aren't some SUS art styles of erotica, porn, whatever it is, where the Uke genuinely looks WAY too young. I've honestly seen worse than this story (but I don't really see it here, tbh, just size difference and perhaps a bit of feminization of the Uke).

    That being said, I think it's kind of about luck. Some things are just more popular than others. So if you're into realistic types of depictions rather than stereotypes, then you don't have as large of a pool to pick from, but there's simply not much you can do about it. There are stories though. Manga that definitely better fit your tastes. I get that it doesn't lessen the disappointment if you're really into the story.

    Unfortunately, something that MANY people like is size difference and pretty/cute people getting fucked. For some people, the thing you have the biggest problem with, is the hottest thing about this.

    Girlga August 8, 2024 11:20 pm
    But it COULD have, which wouldn't have changed how the artist's style looked. XDDrawing basically a VERY feminine male as a bottom is basically the norm in BL tho. No hair, very rounded features, etc.. That's s... ReviewRaptor

    I cant remember any of the names of artists I like but I 100% have a few I can identify the style in 0.01 secondsヾ(☆▽☆) haha I know what you mean, and I do see the amount of artists drawing more masc looking bottoms is increasing with time, little by little, but it is not common and it is not everyones cup of tea and thats ok i guess ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ thank you for the recommendation, I do love old school drawings, maybe the stories are not the best reads( ̄∇ ̄") but hey, its part of the journey to find the best of the best like you sayヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~
    I am into bara but kinda wish they looked more realistic and less like balloons? Lol i still enjoy the art most of the times! And hey, i have 15+ experience too, I'm somewhat of a veteran as well (▰˘◡˘▰)

    Girlga August 8, 2024 11:24 pm
    Honestly, it's kind of hard to explain why anyone likes anything. We can't really control the things we like. I think the important distinction to make here, above all else, is that it's fictional. For most peo... LayLights

    I agree, its all about different likes and thats all ok... I just wish we could have more masc looking bottoms, without having to look super bubbly bara you know? Haha there are SOME artists that donut pretty well but not that many... Little by little artists are starting to go outside of the norm and hopefully we get more content with more realistic bodies (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    LayLights August 9, 2024 12:39 am
    I agree, its all about different likes and thats all ok... I just wish we could have more masc looking bottoms, without having to look super bubbly bara you know? Haha there are SOME artists that donut pretty w... Girlga

    I may be part of the majority in regards to the topic at hand (I like pretty/cute ukes, sue me- XD), but I've also experienced the disappointment and yearning for more of a specific type of content that simply really isn't that popular, so I totally get where you're coming from! I just really like participating in these types of conversations. That, and I wanted to put my two-cents in when regarding the... Logistics and expectations in regards to the 'youthful' appearances of most ukes. That there are some preferences that someone may have that we may not understand the appeal of, and that it's fine. But, truly, it's unfortunate when you have a heavy preference or taste in something that *tends* to be rather niche in nature. It can be entirely frustrating, so you have my full sympathy... ʕ´• ᴥ•`ʔ

    ReviewRaptor August 9, 2024 2:59 am
    I cant remember any of the names of artists I like but I 100% have a few I can identify the style in 0.01 secondsヾ(☆▽☆) haha I know what you mean, and I do see the amount of artists drawing more masc lo... Girlga

    Same~. Tho I'm not good at remembering names so it usually goes along the lines of: Oh hey, this is from the person that drew XYZ! And that other thing! :D
    (I really wish I could remember names better, but there's way too many at this point, all of them more complicated than the other. XD)

    "wish they looked more realistic and less like balloons" I am wheezing! X'D That's so true! Their tiddies always look like those wannabe body builders irl that inject oil into their muscles. Bloated looking and about to bust. I HATE that. Muscle-y man are so nice, why ruin them with balloon tiddies?? If I wanted to see balloon tits, I'd open Instagram or OnlyFans. (/TДT)/

    I am super happy to see another veteran out in the wild! I'm glad I'm not alone, feels that way sometimes since mostly rookies seem to comment whereever I roam. :'D

    Girlga August 9, 2024 3:40 am
    Same~. Tho I'm not good at remembering names so it usually goes along the lines of: Oh hey, this is from the person that drew XYZ! And that other thing! :D(I really wish I could remember names better, but there... ReviewRaptor

    Oh I just finished beast&feast and oh it was so may jam ლ(´ڡ`ლ) thank you for the delicious recomendation! I see this author has an extensive list of works, which means I now have a lot of homework to enjoyヾ(☆▽☆)
    And totally agree, happy to see fellow vets (●'◡'●)ノ

    ReviewRaptor August 9, 2024 4:05 am
    Oh I just finished beast&feast and oh it was so may jam ლ(´ڡ`ლ) thank you for the delicious recomendation! I see this author has an extensive list of works, which means I now have a lot of homework to... Girlga

    You're very welcome~ <3
    I'm really happy you enjoy those works~. My fav is definitely Hachimitsu Darling. ^^
    Beware tho, she basically retired from manga creation. Which was really sad news to me. I loved that art SO much. ╥﹏╥
    Maybe us vets are just an elusive species on here. XD

Girlga August 8, 2024 3:51 am

Hollywood is missing the mark and loosing money for not doing high box-office earning movies with gay leads (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
So many of us want this but they just keep refusing doing anything remotely LGBT, disney us barely tipping their toes into the realm but we want lgbt superheroes, lgbt action leads, just random lgbt secondary characers without a tragic past of drugs/abuse!
Cant believe we are in 2024 and we have yet to see ny of these topics (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸
This is why hollywood is not doing good, only few movies per year do well
Havent watched deadpool but tiktok wont shut up of a car scene with wolverine and people are HORNY AND LIVID for the sexual tension in ONE SCENE
Wake up hollywood!! Do more movies with lgbt people in them PLEASE!
My rant comes from wanting this series to be made into a live action but I know that will never happen ╥﹏╥

Girlga August 8, 2024 3:39 am

Are there any historically themed with a fantasy kick, k-dramas? This story seems like a good script for one ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    Lcny August 13, 2024 2:14 am

    There’s one called “The grand prince” on Viki. It’s somewhat similar. There are two princes and the younger is the crown prince while the oldest is not. The youngest falls in love with a ministers daughter and the oldest wants to have what the youngest has and tries to have the ministers daughter while fighting for the position of emperor. It’s really good, watched like at least once every year during winter break lol and the fl and ml are funny(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    마오 August 13, 2024 2:30 am

    IM SORRY FOR DISLIKING

    Girlga August 13, 2024 6:33 am
    There’s one called “The grand prince” on Viki. It’s somewhat similar. There are two princes and the younger is the crown prince while the oldest is not. The youngest falls in love with a ministers daugh... Lcny

    Woaa thank you for the recommendation ヾ(☆▽☆)

    Girlga August 13, 2024 6:34 am
    IM SORRY FOR DISLIKING 마오

    I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU ヽ(`Д´)ノ
    jk its all goodヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Lcny August 18, 2024 3:58 am
    Woaa thank you for the recommendation ヾ(☆▽☆) Girlga

    No problemmmm(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

Girlga August 8, 2024 3:17 am

She is in all her right to feel angry, used, jealous, all the feelings... But she is being quite cruel with her choice of words, which I dont blame her, she is very young to understand a 40year olds decisions and marriage.
Ill just say I know this story happened to my best friend QUITE EXACTLY THE SAME (a few details different here and there) and let me tell you, decisions like this are not easy.
I love this seriesヾ(☆▽☆)

Girlga August 7, 2024 5:30 pm

Anyone else loves this story cause they suffer from allergies as well? ( ̄∇ ̄")
I've had to take a shower sometimes to be able to breathe too

    I come in peace August 25, 2024 2:29 pm

    I do have allergies but it's all fooddd, like seafoods, can't eat those things I will not even able to go to the hospital because I'll already be

    Jelly August 28, 2024 1:38 pm

    I should’ve reread this sooner I was dying from allergies all the symptoms hitting like a dump truck to later figure out it was from my rabbit’s Timothy hay even the doctor couldn’t figure it out and thought Covid messed up my lungs or something

Girlga August 6, 2024 5:00 pm

Kens personality is oen of the best imo.
Usually bottoms are damsels in distress or strong fighters, he is neither of those now, he is just greedy and wants to fight for his mentally unwell partner (=・ω・=)
Im really getting into pathetic top tropes but this guy is hella strong so its interesting to see how he is strung around by the only person that can do that which is his loved one, oh the angst is good here ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

Girlga August 6, 2024 1:38 pm

Yes, the upload of the second story has nothing to do with the first story but I like it ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
She wants someone to actually care about her, Im into the story
The og story I liked how it shows a ptsd guy having panic attacks and a very naive top that didnt know how to handle it all. In other sites you can see the story ends in a few more chapters (cant remember where or when I read this ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭)
Are both stories called ”falling”? Can someone tell me the nsme of the second story?

    YiaChan82 August 13, 2024 10:52 am

    Yes both have the same title

Girlga August 3, 2024 7:00 pm

He wants to be whipped so bad

Girlga August 3, 2024 11:52 am

I thought it was obvious but maybe its not
When you see someone with a somewhat large tattoo on their wrist, it usually is hiding scars. More so if the person doesnt have many other scars anywhere else.
Many times the tattoos are ment to hide scars or at least make them look less visible. Always be kind

Girlga August 3, 2024 11:40 am

She has to be neurospicy but we all love her for that

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