I honestly didn’t mind that Enzo is the top but why would the author say that there isn’t gonna be any rape and then add rape, the least they could’ve done was add a disclaimer before hand that there’s gonna be an assault of sorts
The more he explores the more freaked out he is, do it again
Nothing is more satisfying than Andrew confronting Bruno and threatening him when it comes to Luke
Morally unethical person who regrets their actions X real Mortally unethical person, i usually dislike red flags but since there’s two of them it’s like you guys are made for each other. Werido stalker who break into their crushes homes and does incriminating stuff using their bodily fluids to the homeowners items and a guy who is potentially a dangerous kidnapper
Wait I’m getting flashbacks to Killing Stalking hello, is this an alternative universe
Negative with negative become positive i guess
Another case for me of “I really love this artstyle but why is the story filled with rape and abuse” I hate the argument of ‘it’s just fiction it won’t hurt anybody.’ I understand it’s fiction but I think there’s a more underlying issue if you actually like and fetishized rape and abuse stories that have no meaning or build up for the characters.
People say the same thing when it comes to shota and loli stuff but it’s extremely looked down upon and that stuff is pedophilic as shit idc if it’s fiction. Rape and abuse stories that’s made to fulfill a sick desire is the same. I really want the MC to idk find someone else but I already know he’s gonna end up with the black haired guy so meh.
Stfu faggot
My name may be Scum but you really live up to your name called Reek cause I can smell you from all the way wherever shithole you came from all the way from Mars. May you be forgotten
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It’s just fiction. Fiction allows people to explore the taboo in a safe environment where no one is facing the consequences. It elicits a cathartic feeling which is exciting and that is why people read these kinds of works.
LOL goat
That’s what I’m saying, you say it’s “just fiction” but stuff like this does happen. This is just fuel for people who fetishized it in the worst ways. The only consequences is fueling people’s fantasy with the notion that “it’s okay” no it’s not okay and you should find a better coping mechanism idc how problematic that sounds. People will look at a story like this and think this is hot, I don’t even wish this relationship on my worst enemies. I certainly don’t want to be with someone who I don’t even consider as a boyfriend when I’m sleeping with other people and then he fucking rapes me for no reason other than “jealousy” so delusional. I don’t care what happens to the black haired guy i hope he dies if the story continues, I need these two away from each other.
Perhaps you can’t change my mind on this topic because I don’t care if anyone like or enjoy this story. I only said my opinion in my own topic thread, if this is ‘exciting’ to you then whatever.
You’re acting like these fictional characters are real. They’re not.
No one is denying that this kind of stuff does happen in real life, but I will remind you that this story and the characters’ traits are purposely exaggerated for the purpose of exciting storytelling that bears no resemblance to reality.
I also want to remind you that I clearly said it’s a fetish, yes I know they are exaggerated. They clearly made the person who got raped essentially gets reduced down to nothing but “a dumb slut” or “asking for it” after something horrible happened to him, then he had to live with person because he’s playing the part. The first couple chapters literally had him crying after what happened in the bathroom, look I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be any rape or sensitive topics in any stories. Rape does happen and there’s no denying it, but why glorize it?
The last thing I want to talk on this website is my own experience about this topic but this is just clear blatant fetish and lacks respect towards Mc. I understand fantasies can happen but this adds no character, I was happy that the blonde guy was able to take control over his newfound emotions about his sexual orientation (it’s reminds me of Mysterious Skins in a way expect for the traumatic pedophilla part) and take it into his own hands by not just victimizing himself and being able to have his own pleasures. But he honestly shouldn’t end up with the black haired guy like I mentioned many times. I honestly have no hope for them. If you want to talk more about this I’d be happy to, like I said I’m not trying to change your mind if you do enjoy this
Yes, this story is definitely a fetish. And there’s no inherent problem with that. You don’t need to give “respect” to a fictional character’s fictional situation of abuse. I will reiterate that no one is being harmed. If someone happens to read this story and gets triggered, they can simply click off the page.
Going back to what I was saying, exploring fetishes and kinks in a fictional setting is completely acceptable, such as with this story. You misinterpret a fetishised interpretation of abuse as “glorifying” abuse. The author is clearly not trying to promote abuse in real life.
The Author don’t have to respect a character who’s been raped… right… I can see what kind of example you’re putting up.
It’s not about the aspects of triggering, I’m not triggered that there’s rape, maybe some people do but the problem is that this is a fetish story, it’s about desensitizing people for one: didn’t experience this kind of abuse and believing fetishizing something that is psychologically damaging is hot and two: decreases your empathy and affect your mindset.
You mentioned that fiction doesn’t affect reality in your other comment and I have to break it to you that it does, like you said in your comment that this is a way to ‘explore’ fetishes and kinks. My abuser was one of them and he acted on it, how many more people can say it’s just fictional before it isn’t?
You don’t think reading rape and abuse story doesn’t affect your mindset? Like at all? I’ve seen countless of topics on this website of people saying that ‘there should be more rape’ or ‘I wish the author can make the top rape the bottom again’ and so many more comments like that.
It’s the same exact mindset my abuser had. But you know what. Live your life. Just don’t let the people you care about know this side of you ig
Don’t worry! A lot of people in my life know about this side of me, and we’re all friends! And I don’t feel any sort of compulsion to act in the way that these fetishised stories show, because I can differentiate between fiction and reality — I am mentally mature and intelligent enough to do so. Other people aren’t and I do recognise that (as you mentioned with people becoming desensitised), but there’s a reason that these stories are 18+. They’re not meant for mentally immature people who struggle to draw a line between the fictional and the real, and can potentially A) become desensitised B) have their mentality affected.
I am very sorry about your situation of abuse, but that occurred because your abuser already had the predisposition to abuse someone in a certain way. It’s not that fictional stories suddenly changed their personality overnight, but rather that there was already the idea and inclination towards abuse that already existed in their mind.
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If they’re not meant for people who aren’t mentally mature or intelligent like you mentioned there’s still plenty of content either on a pirated website or an official website for those people to access it. Just because something’s 18+ it’s still isn’t safe from criticism, it’s fetish content for people who has a rape or SA fetish. It shouldn’t be normalized to condition people to seek more content like this and the people replying to that one person that has the Russian school shooter pfp calling me a slur I’ve already made up my mind of what kind of person you are.
I wouldn’t be here discussing about it if I hadn’t been through this. To which I did not seek an apology from you, what happened to me happened and it’s something that I can’t get rid of. What I didn’t want is for you to make a logical assumption of ‘why’ my abuser did what he did to me, it comes across as insensitive and you don’t know my full sexual abuse story to say. I’m just here to speak my thoughts on the fetish rape centric stories and not the stories that has rape as more of an awareness and the type of people that it procures, my abuser being one of them and the people replying to that Reek person. I’m glad you are able to speak with me about this despite how passive aggressive I sound, this is a topic I’m in-depth as this used to be my way of coping as a victim myself.
Though I will not change my mind on it, I still believe it’s a harmful narrative and this is another crappy story where the abused ends up with the abuser despite how much I like the artstyle. The lack of actual stories of mlm that contain rape but not in a fetish way is really hard to find. There is like 5 more new stories that has more rape content so you can only imagine my distaste and the amount of people praising for it.
yapping for no reason ig ur mad. go read sasaki and miyano and let people read what they want. You can just chose not to read this stuff you know. They usually contain content warnings so you know what you are getting into.
I know you take it soo seriously but to most readers this is just a fictional story to goon to. The uke is entertaining tho I like him even tho the story itself aint good
Yes I do take it seriously cause it’s an issue. The fact that you had to add sarcasm to something I’m bringing an awareness to that I dealt with irl is honestly disappointing. Telling me to go read a different story that’s more fluffy driven isn’t gonna change the fact that people are normalizing rape fetish in BL or any straight or GL. You’ve already lack empathy and disregarded my comments, you are the type of people I’m talking about.
I definitely agree with you. Stories like this contain content warnings and if it’s triggering for anyone then they should do the right thing for their mental state and click away from it. I understand being passionate about real life cases of abuse and I actually have personally gone out and protested about them but…honestly, complaining about a fictional narrative gets you nowhere.
I feel that they’re both in the wrong but MC more so, it’s clear that MC before the memory loss was a total dipshit and he didn’t treat ML equally, plus it’s most likely that he cheated on him during that one year of marriage. I understand that he has an inferiority complex of some sort, he hates ML and that fact that he’s ‘indebted’ to ML’s family to get him to the high status where he was. Even in one of the flashbacks when they were younger he said that he was gonna take advantage of ML even if he hated him.
The part that confuses me is that he agreed to marry ML, maybe it is just another part of taking advantage of him. It does feel wrong that ML family had offered such a proposal to him especially since he’s an omega but he could’ve refused, ML family seem to be not as bad as Jun-oh’s family so im sure they would’ve accepted that he turned down the proposal.
Then there’s the ML, I know that he’s not bad but the least he could’ve done was be truthful towards MC when there a topic he brought up relating before his memory loss, he’s in the wrong for that cause that only brought up more confusion when what he said didn’t line up with what other people said. I get it the guy you’ve been crushing on lost his memories and suddenly being sweet towards you makes you not want to bring up the past but it’s gonna come back eventually to bite him in the ass.
After looking at the other topics is seems that MC does regain back his memories and it’s gonna be a roller coaster of emotion for the both of them. Honestly I hope ML leaves him and take care of the kid i would hate to see ML get treated like trash when he hasn’t done anything wrong to him from what I’m seeing.
Ahmmm... You won't like the next next next next chapter of this
ML is imo complicit quite a bit in the way his family has used MC. Youre giving him a free pass because he's got that child-like innocence and good nature but he's a grown man and he could do more than sit by and let this happen to a person he liked. MC was handed over to him but he decided to accept what clearly smelled fishy because he wanted to marry him anyway, only to then be sad about their relationship being bad. Its very sweet, but its complicit, because he's not a kid anymore that doesn't understand the power distribution in the world.
The way I see it MC is in the right, he's just an asshole about it. And ML is in the wrong, but he just not malicious. MC has built him up quite a bit by now but he was not a reliable, equal partner to begin with and MC in full capacity of his memories had no reason to think he could be.
MC tried to kill ML twice who was a child...
I never gave him a free pass in my comment, did you even read what I said before you replied? Im not sure if there’s more chapters out now since I haven’t seen it since August 29th if this is regarding about the situation of MC past when it came to the marriage proposal. If the marriage proposal is ML idea in some chapter I haven’t seen then yeah he’s using his power to take advantage of that, probably the reason why ML parents asked in the first place. But I clearly stated that ML is also in the wrong and once MC got his memories back it’ll be the end of their relationship. I’m only using knowledge from what I’m being given as the reader so far in this manga adaption and I’m also trying not to spoil myself too much from the topics about the novel it self.
I already knew from the start that something is wrong when ML decides to lie to MC and hid stuff from him. The part where I said about the “yeah I get it you like him so you lie” isn’t me thinking he’s cutesy naive, instead he’s using his feign ignorance to conceal the truth from recovering more memories which is even worse. I still dislike MC more than ML but he does have every right to want to leave ML, I don’t even want to root for them since I started reading this.
Guh… the yaoi of pain, suffering and hate… I’ll prepare for those chapters. Thanks for notifying me, messenger….
Omg what
This is how I find out first he had an affair while married to ML and then he tried to kill him not once but TWICE oh my god bruh
Suhan never cheated on Yeonseo.. the twice where Suhan tried to kill Yeonseo, was when he was going through a very bad phase.. one of the times it happened when Suhan was trying to self-exit by drowning himself in the ocean, Yeonseo was smaller comapared to Suhan back then so when he tried to pull him out he could not. And since Suhan was in this moment where he was about to let go, he pulled Yeonseo in. Both Yeonseo and Suhan had gone through a very bad phase that mentally affected them. Yeonseo's older brother self-exited, so when Suhan came around and started exhibiting similar behaviour Yeonseo made it his business to cling and keep an eye on him. Suhan was just a help around Yeonseo's house, he did not like that Yeonseo's parents wanted him to entertain and go along with Yeonseo's whims. Yeonseo's parents indulged his interest in Suhan bc like I mentioned Yeonseo was affected by his older brother's self exit, he only started opening up after meeting Suhan, bc he started seeing him as his older brother's replacement. Later Yeonseo presented as an alpha and Suhan was an omega, Suhan was brilliant and sharp but Yeonseo was softer in nature. Yeonseo's aprents thought they can marry these two and Suhan can support Yeonseo with their business.
You have to understand a chunk of this is from Suhan's perspective and Suhan is a bit of an unreliable narrator bc he feels victimized for being an omega and dealt a bad hand in life. As villanised as Yeonseo's parents seem, they aren't. They care for and love Suhan too.
Anyways, a lot of messed up things happen but Suhan and Yeonseo learn to talk it out. And most of all, Suhan learns to love himself and let himself be loved by Yeonseo. Suhan was always scared of Yeonseo's love for him bc he felt inadequate.
Wait he didn’t cheat? I thought in chapter 7 when Yeonseo got ahold of Suhan’s phone there was a voice message (probably from Lim cheol or whatever his name is) talking about how he remembers the MC rolling his eyes back most likely something that had something to do with sex. I could be wrong and the voice messages could be before they got married. Then I forgot which chapter it was when they got the invitation to the restaurant opening with Lim Cheol, the way he was touchy in the bathroom with MC felt like he was comfortable doing that often when they were alone.
I was under the impression that since they got married Yeoseo just let him do whatever so he doesn’t leave or something. Which is why he reacted weirdly when Suhan mentioned Lim Cheol in one of the chapters cause he knew of their relationship. Then again I could be completely wrong about the affair since there’s only bits and pieces of MC’s memories that haven’t fully uncovered. And about the ML parents I know that they aren’t ‘bad’ people as I mentioned in my original comment. The whole marriage proposal thing they mentioned could have easily had MC reject the offer and they won’t force him or feel distain because he didn’t want to marry their son.
But I believe he didn’t reject the marriage offer cause he had something up his sleeves when it came to Yeonseo’s parents business cause he did have a high position working in their company. I have a speculation that before his memory loss he decided to marry Yeonseo to take advantage of some important and valuable assets to stay in his position or higher then divorce him and that’s where all the divorce paper we see at the beginning was. Then there’s Lim Cheol that mentioned about this “plan” they had which I honestly don’t know about. I am interested in the story, I’m just biased cause I’m a firm believer that if you truly hate someone you’re not gonna fall in love with them and for all of Suhans internal conflict and reasoning he decides to put his hate onto Yeonseo. But yeah if they managed to talk it out all the power to them.
"When he was going through a bad phase" as if it excuses two attempted murders. ML was a child who did nothing to MC. He was a victim.
Suhan wanted a better life and being an omega he wouldn't get to earn a high position in a big company like Yeonseo's parents'. So he worked hard initially to get out of being under their favor but then they proposed marriage and even better prospects for future like studies abroad that he couldn't have done by himself. So he accepted. But he couldn't bear being married to Yeonseo bc Yeonseo always had this guilt for forcing Suhan into this marriage. Suhan therefore planned to build his reputation, start a business with Lim and divorce Yeonseo. Lim was a business partner but Lim would like taking liberties. Suhan bore with the grimey touches but he never intended to sleep with Lim. Suhan disliked being treated as an omega so he never slept with anyone especially alphas..
Red haired guy is such an idiot please stay together for the rest of your life
Yaoi logic is the bottom wearing a skimpy bikini that can barely hold both his boobs and dick thinking the very obvious ass loving gay guy would be disgusted and break up with him. You just earned yourself 50 backshots and a sore colon, this guy needs to be away from alcohol
Lololol. Your comment made me jump right to that chapter.