
Sure, they were the antagonists to our Luffy so it was natural for us to hate them, they were the opposers to the MC’s freedom. But in the beginning that’s all they were.
Setting aside the “all government agencies are corrupt trope ingrained into us so we’re suspicious of them from the get go”, at what point did you realise the WG were lead soulless monsters?
It’s not even about their “bottom line” to fight the pirates. These guys are truly sadistic.

I think from the alabasta arc honestly. it was truly like genuinely WHY haven't they done anything till now? it felt like they literally let that shit slide. or romance dawn with buggy. like since baroque works I knew there was sum fishiness up, when they pick and choose which people to cast aside and allow to run the world rampant.

Yeah, for me, even then I was thinking, “oh they just don’t care” or they’re following higher up orders (and a lot are just following orders) When the CD came in, they were just spoilt brats. The five elders really cemented it for me. They didn’t just “not care” they thought less of humans, believe them to be scum.

definitely water 7 and enies lobby arcs -- with such a big plot twist of CP9 trying to murder a good man for simply having too much influence and then the backstory of robin and how the WG is just hiding war crimes (lost 100 years or whatever it's called) and killing off anyone who asks questions -- how could you not question the WG for putting such a large bounty on a child for simply existing

I will not feel sorry for the guy. There is no justification for why he’s doing this. Oh? He’s all butthurt about big bro not liking his obsessive arse? And he “defended” big bro’s honour (only to mentally drug him and rape him later on) Nope, he can walk barefoot on legos 23 hours a day for the rest of his life.
Why can’t they just keep a guy pure trash without the attempts of making him “not that bad”. This is up there with making the rival love interest do worse things to make the ML look better in comparison. News flash, you didn’t raise the bar, you just dug under it.

What seme want to tell himself: ima give him a cute toy saying it’s from his crush to mess with him. It’ll be most entertaining.
What seme is actually doing: I’ll give him this present, telling him it’s from his crush so he’ll love and cherish it. He’ll carry around a gift I gave him.
I if the plot ever gets going, the internal conflicts would be interesting

I think the younger brother is so psycho to the point that this accessory is a tracker device or maybe a hidden camera to watch what his older brother do in his own bedroom. if he still think about his friend while doing some perv thing to discipline him while in state of hypnosis.
Uhhh I hate to think about it so bad. I want the older brother to figure out quickly and do some smart sh*t to beat this shitty younger brother and get out of that “relationship”.
Honestly, I’m just reading this to get the satisfaction of seeing them all die horribly by Ray's hands.
I’ve read the novel and the side stories. I’ve universally decided that it ended with Ray killing George in the wood and peacing out to live a happy life and healed life.
wait, so he kills them all ?
Spoilers——-
Not exactly. But he kills the main two aresholes who stared it all.
First: he burns the dorm down (after drugging them and trying Hugh up) only Hugh dies but Ray thinks they’re all dead.
Second: years later, he’s caught by the surviving three and hunted. George is killed. Ray leaves the other two. This is where I chose to have the story end for me. The rest gets real convoluted.
But to continue:
Third: Simon dies after being pushed off a cliff(?) I think but it was Jerome’s fault. Ray and them come back to the school as a throuple.
Ray and Jerome live together in trauma.
ughhhh thanks for the spoilers. I'll end the story at the same mark as you !
question,, so who was the first person that started it all?
Hugh. His first pet was George (or maybe Jerome, he was given to Hugh’s family as a child) George and Hugh fell in love and began getting pets together. Simon was one of them. Jerome and Simon were just the ones who were twisted enough to join in. Call it a survival tactic but these guys are the first and only victims I’ll blame. All four of them are terrible and needed to die.
I need a good revenge story. Like “I spit on your grave.” Or something like that.
danggg
ur leaving some stuff out. simon was stupid and feared hugh. jerome was drugged and forced to rape his nanny which fucked him up and he was forced to continue yes for survival but also for an opportunity for revenge. which ofc doesnt justify any of their actions.