
FINALLY some fucking conversation from this blockheaded dense mf bitch excuse of a ML. Finally he starts asking some questions oh my god. Its like a bizzaro version of Killian in common isekai where he saw that he was wrong and being mind-controlled but didnt try to change his behavior or apologize, frustrating and annoying.

I love this manhua with my whole heart and I have no more love to give. love. let me tell you how much ive come to love this manhua since i began to read. there are 387.44 million miles of veins under the skin that holds my flesh. if the word love was engraved on every blood cell packing those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one billionth of the love i feel for edith and killian. love. love.

I cant cope. I actually cant fucking cope. the duke is possibly the biggest piece of shit recorded in history, and the FL is no better. she had since she was what, 7 years old? 11?? i forget whenever this bitch transmigrated, but anyways, she lived until she was at least 18 in the original world, transmigrated (SO NOW SHES AT LEAST A FULL GROWN FUCKING ADULT, AT LEAST 21), and still didnt have the fucking brains to help an abuse victim, when she KNOWS THE FUCKING PLOT OF THE BOOK, KNOWS THE EXTENT OF THE ABUSE THE ML SUFFERS, AND KNOWS WHY ITS HAPPENING. SHE JUST LETS IT HAPPEN AND EVEN DEFENDS THE ABUSER. SHE ACTS LIKE SHE KNOWS NOTHING, BUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MANHUA SHE FUCKING SPELLS OUT THE ABUSE THAT HAPPENS BC OF THE DUKE. THE DICK DUKE. OH MY GOD I CANT STAND IT. AND THE WIFE NEVER EVEN GETS ABUSED AND YET ACTS LIKE SHES POWERLESS TO STOP HIM FROM HITTING HER CHILD, allshe does to help IS LATER WHEN THE DUKE IS ABUSING HER CHILD IN FRONT OF HER GO "im sorry duke! i totally ratted on you and now youre abusing my child, im sorry DUKE." NOT AN APOLOGY TO HER SON FOR NEVER BEING A FUCKING MOTHER, SHE APOLOGIZES TO THE SDHNJ GTUIJO THE FUCKING DUKEEEE. I CANT STAND THE DUCHESS, I CANT STAND THE FL, AND I CANT STAND THE DUKE. THE FL HAS ONE MOMENT WHERE SHE ACTUALLY TRIES TO HELP AN ABUSE VICTIM WHERE SHE GOES (MIND YOU SHES WAY PAST BEING AN ADULT BY THIS POINT, LIKE SOUL WISE SHES GOTTA BE 36) SHE SAYS "you shouldnt project onto your son :((( wah wah) WHEN THE SON IS BY THIS PPOINT WHAT, 25 AND STILL BEING ABUSED BY THE DUKE????? OH MY GOD I CANT STAND IT. AND HE NEVER FUCKING APOLOGIZES, THATS THE WORST OF IT, NO BEAT DOWN NO SLAP NO CONFESSION NO TEARS NO NOTHING, HE NEVER APOLOGIZES FOR 25 YEARS OF ABUSE JUST BC HIS INFANT SONNNNN JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE THE SAME EYE COLOR AS THE PREVIOUS DUKE. A CHILD. AN INFANT. AN 11 YEAR OLD BOY HAS THE SAME EYE AND HAIR COLOR AS MY FATHER, SO IM GOING TO BEAT HIM UNTIL HE CANT WALK AND RESTRICT HIS FOOD SO HE NEARLY STARVES. IM THEN GOING TO DANGLE MY ATTENTION, AFFECTION, AND TITLE OVER HIS INFANT HEAD. AND THE FL KNOWSSSS THIS SHE KNOWSSSSSSS ABOUT IT HAPPENING AND SHE NEVER. NEVERRRRR TRIES TO HELP. THE MOST SHE DOES IS MAKE THE ABUSE WORSE AND FEED THE KID A GRAPE. oh my god i cant STAND THIS STUPID FUCKING MANHUA. I CANT COPE EVERY TIME I THINK OF THIS OR I SEE IT ON THE RECOMMENDED TAB I GET SO FUCKING ANGRY ITS LIKE AN OPEN WOUND THIS IS MY ROMAN EMPIRE I CANT FUCKING STAND IT SOMEONE NEEDS TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE DUKE, LIKE ACTUALLY BEAT HIM WITHIN AN INCH OF HIS LIFE, INCAPACITATE HIM, STARVE HIM, CARVE OUT HIS FINGERNAILS, CUT HIS ACHILLES TENDON, MAKE HIM GO BLIND IN ONE EYE, REMOVE 8 OF HIS TEETH, AND RIP ALL HIS HAIR OUT, THEN LET HIM GO BACK TO THE VILLAGE OF THE DUKEDOM, MAKE HIM CRAWL ABOUT AS HORSES PRANCE BY, THEN HAVE THE ML COME BY, KICK HIM LIKE 80 TIMES IN HIS SIDE, AND THEN THE DUKE SHOULD GO KILL HIMSELF. THE FL AND DUCHESS ARENT SAFE EITHER, HAVE THEM BOTH BEG FOR FORGIVENESS TO THE ML BC THAT SHIT OF BEING COMPLACENT IN ABUSE REALLY ISNT FUCKING CUTE.

i think i hate this manhua more than lucky paradise. no. i KNOW i hate this stupid fucking manhua more than lucky paradise, bc at least in lucky paradise its almost comedic how fucking shitty and abusive every relationship is, and at least its not a family of people against one child, but instead a community of stupid fucking college students.

I whole heartedly agree with the duke and duchess part. Both should just be killed, honestly. I feel like they're just so..... low that I don't want people to waste their time torturing trash, you know?
Rachel- though should ofcourse apologise- deserves some grace. I remember Rachel trying to stop Duke, while eating, taking walk- any moment and the Duke would deflect any request regarding ML. Don't you remember the scene, Rachel said, if Duke doesn't stop abusing ML, she won't call him Dad anymore? Rachel honestly tried a bit. The only one who cared for him. And Rachel was still child. She knew the Duke would easily lie to her. What would she do? Confront Duke? That would seem suspicious and he might end up abusing the ML more.

i get it which is why for like, when reading even up to chapter 38-40 i mostly didnt blame rachel, but when we get to the duke's "apology" she thinks things like "dude hes seriously still on that??" as if she didnt explain to the audience that she knows about the entirety of the abuse and how horrible it is. Shes shocked that the few and far between attempts of stopping the abuse didnt bring it to an early halt, as if she didnt know that in the og novel the duke never changes his heart about his son and continues to treat and beat him like a monster. It shows that this whole time, she never actually cared about how the ML was faring, and rather, she just wanted to know if he was with the blonde yet. She didnt consider even once that maybe the reason the ML in the og novel is so twisted is the horrible abuse he suffered, and that what he needed as a kid wasnt crazy romance with some dude. Like she "knew" but she didnt -acknowledge- this fact, she treated it as though it were unavoidable. And the worst she could do to stop a torrent of abuse was say "i wont call you dad anymore"?? for the end of some extreme twisted views and extreme actions, as someone who is mentally an adult, she should be okay with taking some extreme measures. Like, for the first 30 chapters i was really excusing it in my mind, but when she continuously turned a blind eye and acted ignorant, it really is unexcusable

I feel like you're forgetting that the Duke liked Rachels father- NOT Rachel. And the separation period- 7 years- was decided to keep her away from Lucian as well. He thought Lucian was manipulating Rachel. The Duke even restricted the letters between them. Again she was completely under the mercy of someone- who would abuse Lucian for ANYTHING. So, suppose Rachel DID act more pro- Lucian--- do you think Lucian would survive? The Duke almost made Rachel the Duchess in the previous life, which is why ogRachel was a bitch to Lucian. I'd say young Rachel did moderately great and by the time they were adult- Lucian already learnt to stand for himself and didn't require protection.

but see, as an audience member, we read that during this entire time rachel: doesnt give a shit whether lucian is being beaten or not, even though she is mentally an adult and KNOWS about these things. We never see a moment where she genuinely reflects on this and considers the best options to help him. The only thing she reflected on was the "romance" of the original novel. Her thoughts almost never reflect concern for the person being abused in front of her. thats what I mostly find unforgiveable. Thats whats deplorable. The whole time she really doesnt care, and plays ignorant to the whole ordeal. It makes me detest the duke, duchess, fl, and even the author of the manhua. All of them act as though it cant be helped, and that when the ML has issues its bc hes just "like that"

I think that Rachel did care and acted according. But, I see your point as well. She is very thoughtless in some cases. Like, look at it. From childhood she shipped that blondie and Lucian and now just as easily dating Lucian. That's kinda disgusting ngl. And she KNOWS that Lucian has the tendency to be yandere, she sees that she's being isolated, and she thinks "ouuu its just another normal day!" LIKE COME ON YOU FUCKING DONUT.
I wish that Lucian found someone else to love. My kinda perfect sequence would be Duke and Duchess dying, Rachel going away and Lucian falling in love with a fire cracker of a woman/man, who'd make him happy.
i actually cant stand this, when does the og ram get love?? shouldnt she be appreciated?? this is so bullshit, i actually hate the mc and ml, i wish the author let the og ram have just a moment of love and peace. ML doesnt deserve her.