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BL has cool female characters, too, infact magnitudes more charismatic, much more real than shoujo ones. But they still feel just as superficial as shoujo cool girls but for a different reason. While shoujo cool girls often fail to hit the mark because you can't help but see them as only a vessel that exists to carry out the reader's romantic fantasies, the BL cool girls feel like they're deliberately being written as cool and "masculine" only to communicate to the reader that they are not potential romantic interests or rivals. They are also just a vessel that is carrying out their fujoshi readers' long standing desire to serve as the hand of God in stories pushing two male characters that they ship together into a romantic relationship with each other.

You should read more shounen and related genres for that. The greatest female characters I've found exist in shounen and seinen. When female characters in male-centric stories are based on the archetype of woman as someone a man would want to date, they come out as characters that disappoint anyone who cares for women more than they like them. But, when female characters are based on the archetype of a woman as someone a man is most closely related to, as someone that a man inherits from and bequeathes to, a mother-figure, a sister-figure or a daughter-figure, you get some of the realest, most respectful and the coolest female characterizations ever. I'll use Naruto for an analogy since that is to MMM-sphere kind of like the Bible is to the real world. Everyone knows some stories from the Bible, has some idea about the characters, even if they have never even looked at a single page of the book. That way I can be assured that most people will get my analogy. With shounen, you'll have to sit through scores of Sakuras (the girlfriend/wife), but you'll also be rewarded with so many Hinatas (the daughter), Inos, Temaris (the sister) and Tsunades (the mother).

What did he do in the novel?

In the novel he and Suying had a really deep relationship, and they were good to each other.
At some poiint Suying was starting to think of staying with him forever.
Xiao really LOVED Suiying and would do anything for him, and they show that in the novel, they have lots of scenes together, and duo to that part of the fandom was in xiao side, wishing for him to end with Suying, BUT in the manhua the artist cuted EVERYTHING FROM HIM.
Xiao was the person who helped suiying go back on track when he was the most depressed and alone.
Xiao was always there for him and this damn artist CUT THIS IMPORTANT PART.

I did not read the novel but i’m rooting for Xiao ! You can see his sincerity. He just takes a flight because Suiying was crying in phone. I wish the artist would add their scene in extra or something

Eh i think you are over exaggerating his importance. A lot of it was implied/time lapsed and he was dating a girl back home.

Nope I read the novel more then 8 times and I'm not exagerating, HE WAS NOT DATING ANYONE WHILE HE WAS WITH SUIYING.
PAY ATTENTION.
And one thing is the artist implying and other is showing like in the novel.
I hate when people just throw false information like that.

BITCH why are you lying ?
Xiao never dated anyone while he was dating Suying.
His parents wanted that and at some point suiying thought that would be the best for him, and a girl at the place he worked liked him, just that.
Xiao was really important to suiying in the novel, and even Suiying admits that.
They have lots of communication.
Just cause you like Li Yu is not your place to lie about the novel.
Wake up

This haha.
Maybe this person just read spoilers and are trying to bring false information hahahha.

Wow relax its a story. And i also read the story twice. 8 times is crazy so not surprised by your over reaction. People feel free to read the novel yourselves and draw your own conclusions.

By my recollection, even with Xiao’s explanation, both characters in my POV had lukewarm reactions to their partner potentially being with someone else long term because they both saw their relationship as temporary. I think they never viewed each other as equals—Xiao was more of an obedient comfort blanket than someone MC respected. Their relationship began because mc offered financial support for him to be available when needed. Though real feelings existed, this felt like more of a mutual relationship of convenience than a long term possibility for MC. I may have rushed through scenes involving Xiao due to lack of interest, but what’s shown in the manhwa to me seems more than sufficient to me to convey the relationship.

And thats is the point where you fucked up.
Both started out with a relationship of convenience, just like Liyu and Suying.
But Xiao quickly fell in love with Suiying and their relationship IS VERY WELL WORKED IN THE NOVEL.
If you didn't even have the decency to read it and want to say things that never happened, have some respect for yourself.
That's low.
Wanting to change something original in the novel to justify yourself.
As the other person said, PAY ATTENTTION.
Although you just admitted that you didn't use that to read it, even skipping parts.
I don't know how you can comment on that then.

I'm a huge obsessed fan with all novels of group 188.
I read all the novels in chronological order and in order of release.
The affection I have for each one is immense, precisely because I have read them so many times that I can say what I say.
Now it really pisses me off when someone who doesn't read carefully, admits that they didn't pay attention to this very important part of the novel, wants to come and comment to make it seem like they are right.
It's not something to draw your own conclusions.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE DAMN NOVEL, DAMN IT.
You like it or not, they did had a relationship in the novel.
And they were each other's comfort for a while.
Now I'm gonna mute this section, because this girl is Pissing me off.

Its an alternative point of view on a story but I didnt say a single lie. Xiao has a lot of admiration and affection. Mcs affection for him feels almost parental. Notice how he always had dipped in and out on xiao but chose to be exclusive with ML. Not a coincidence. ML is trash but mc loved him passionately and his relationship with this character is lukewarm. Xiao does not in my opinion have enough value in the story to feature more in the manwha.

The audacity to caller other reader’s reaction exeggeration when the reader have read the novel multiple times where you only read the manhua and even rushed through it lmao

What happened tell meeee

The bottom go back to the blond top and forgives him TOO EASILY.
Chapt 65 they are already back.
And Karma nevers come to the blond top

Ewwwwww. Not even up to 10 chapters? I need to see that stupid ml grovel. For my own sanity atp

Just fell to my knees say it ain't so please

I wish it wasnt real too honey (︶︿︶)

Crying

this really pisses me off..... why are bottoms always written so spineless and pathetic

Whaaat?! That's SO LAME!

bruh

oufff what the fuck GET A GRIPPP

Where did u read the raw? ╥﹏╥

here
https://newtoki467.com/webtoon/29163712/%EA%B5%AC%EC%9B%90%EB%A0%B9?stx=%EA%B5%AC%EC%9B%90%EB%A0%B9

Can u send the link pls

Coff coff.. drop the link COFF COFFF

drop the link milord

drop the link

Drop the link!!!

It's in Spanish, but you can use Google Translate.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12RVkppm7UVKNrnd6gqDUpAMXhqseuTHj/view