Cyrano October 1, 2014 10:13 pm

Wow! After having read this, all other manga will look ugly and clumzily drawn. I'm totally spoiled for ever! This mangaka sure knows how to handle his pens and brushes...

Cyrano September 30, 2014 9:12 pm

Is there really nobody of you who has ever heard of sadomasochism? Better go and get some life experience, instead of reading stories that you're to immature to understand...

    lol October 1, 2014 5:41 pm

    S&M usually comes from an agreement between two parties who were already interested in it, not manipulatively pushed onto the uke (who you can clearly tell did not expect this sort of outcome.)

    Cyrano October 1, 2014 8:16 pm
    S&M usually comes from an agreement between two parties who were already interested in it, not manipulatively pushed onto the uke (who you can clearly tell did not expect this sort of outcome.) @lol

    No, you're talking about s&m as an erotic game. This is love story: 2 men who love one another, one cruel, one submissive. It's supposed to be real life: in reality, things rarely happen the way we expect. Although the cruel one allows guys to use and humiliate his lover, he hates them: he's jealous of them, for he loves his friend, and the latter loves him back, else he would leave. This is about passion, not about toy handcuffs and leather boots... But it's still a dominator/dominee-relationship. That's what I meant.

    yaoi fangirl November 12, 2014 3:42 am
    No, you're talking about s&m as an erotic game. This is love story: 2 men who love one another, one cruel, one submissive. It's supposed to be real life: in reality, things rarely happen the way we expect. ... Cyrano

    i don't understand the passion part

    Cyrano November 13, 2014 5:45 pm
    i don't understand the passion part yaoi fangirl

    Passion is when love is really intense. That's why when somebody is tried for murdering his/her lover because the latter cheated on him or he thinks he did (Othello-wise), in Law this is called a "crime of passion". Love that's so heavy it becomes a matter of life & death.
    Or did you mean the passion in this here manga? You can tell it's about passion because of the use of violent feelings like jealousy, anger, pain, self-sacrifice... that kind of thing. Love with a capital L, so to speak. Get my drift?

    yaoi fangirl November 13, 2014 11:54 pm
    Passion is when love is really intense. That's why when somebody is tried for murdering his/her lover because the latter cheated on him or he thinks he did (Othello-wise), in Law this is called a "crime of pass... Cyrano

    i see.....

    Cyrano November 15, 2014 7:11 pm

    Allright you, Yaoifangirl :-D
    Know Othello? It's a supercool manga from 500 years ago. No yaoi, though... Boy & girl. But good.

Cyrano September 23, 2014 10:20 pm

I bet the drama isn't half as good as the manga... they never are

    Moon01234 February 20, 2025 10:52 pm

    Weirdly it was very well done and there is even an alternate ending

    Cyrano February 26, 2025 12:05 am

    I guess with such a good theme, there is hardly a chance to completely ruin it. But it has happened that even with a great plot anime's or real-life drama's can be completely worthless compared to the manga they're taken after. Not so much because the movies are so bad, but because those old mangas were soooooooo good

    Moon01234 February 26, 2025 6:05 am
    I guess with such a good theme, there is hardly a chance to completely ruin it. But it has happened that even with a great plot anime's or real-life drama's can be completely worthless compared to the manga th... Cyrano

    I know the feeling. But the acting is good. They follow the proper stories in each chapter so it's well done. They also planned ahead as to why the ending was like it is since the beginning

    Cyrano March 10, 2025 5:56 pm

    That's rare. Do you know "Ashi-girl"? Fantastic manga. They made a real-life film of it, but that was worthless af, mainly because the manga is about two young teenagers, and they took very very adult actors. Ugh, totally spoiled the whole thing

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