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just been informed they are related and i advise everyone to completely disregard this comment

Fell the same

He's gonna get slapped with more than just baby powder

why do you only mention Jiwon not being healthy for DG though?
DG is also not suitable for Jiwon.
Jiwon needs someone stronger and more mature and experienced than DG.
Someone more reliable and sociable with more talents and abilities.Someone who can be his equal.
DG is just an average boy.Nothing special about him.If he and Jiwon end up together it will just be a story about a fanboys dream come true.DG has definetely more to gain from Jiwon than Jiwon has to gain from DG.
And they are not equals on how much "healing" they need.
DG just finally had a real life experience and that was enough to "break" him while Jiwon's issues are much more complicated with much deeper roots...

i pretty much agree, and slightly disagree, which is ok. i personally don't think it matters how "mature" DG is, because if he shows Jiwon true love, which he did, that's all that's important. And just because they aren't "equals" on the amount of healing they need, does not mean they aren't both valid. Jiwon's issues are a lot more complicated, true. But love doesn't really have to be about equals sometimes, you know? sometimes it's boring to have someone just like you. DG in all his simplicity (and there's likely still thing we've yet to know about him) might be just what Jiwon needs. Jiwon needs stable, unconditional, honest love--and maybe DG is just perfect for that. Who knows though, we didn't write the book. I appreciate you sharing your opinion. it made me think.

Also why does everyone think that DG loves Jiwon and has showed it?
I don't think he has ever been unconditional or even honest with Jiwon.He has been selfish.
He barely knows Jiwon and he almost ruined his life and his career when he chose to express himself after getting drunk blowing Jiwon without his consent and then demanding things suddenly after Jiwon has given him plenty of chances to speak up and even leave
Jiwon was just lucky that he had worked his ass off for years to earn such loving and supportive followers so they believed him,they forgave him and let the scandal slide.
What would had happened if Jiwon had been new in the business though?
His career and source of love and validation would be gone for good.
And I don't think Jiwon loves DG.
He is just being to harsh to himself and blaming himself like he always did ever since he was a kid.
And that's it.He didn't hurt DG like his ex had done to him.Because Jiwon had never promised DG love.He had never told him he loved him and that they would be together forever like his ex had done to him.
And at this point Jiwon is very vulnerable so he thinks like that but that is not right.
If I were Jiwon it would take me a very long time to trust DG again and give the relationship a try from the beginning because DG has proven that he can be very dangerous.
DG has nothing to lose therefore he has nothing to be afraid of.Unlike Jiwon who after years of established a certain lifestyle which has been overall productive for him he will have to change everything if he is going to have a relationship.And that's always very difficult.
Unlike DG who will just have his dream come true...

DG has barely done anything for Jiwon.
Even if he went along with Jiwon's desires that doesn't count because DG enjoyed the sex too.
Jiwon has taken into consideration DG and his needs and desires.
DG demanded they have sex at Jiwon's place.Jiwon allowed him into his house.
DG used Jiwon's mistake to guilt trip him into a date.Jiwon went along with it.
Jiwon allowed DG to stay at his house and even sleep there and make himself at home basically.
Jiwon took care of drunk and exhausted DG.
Jiwon wanted to clear things up once again after he suspected that DG might be in love with him.
DG lied.
The only thing DG has done for Jiwon was that he took him.back to his house after Jiwon had passed out drunk.
But what actually occured that night was basically rape.
DG totally took advantage of drunk Jiwon and had sex with him thinking that now that Jiwon was drunk he was being sweet so DG thought that he should just enjoy himself.And so he did but Jiwon was drunk and never gave him consent for sex.
And every time Jiwon has been involved with DG he always has his ex on his mind.
Nobody ever mentions how DG has raped Jiwon as well.How he has used and manipulated him.How selfish he had been.How he also never considered Jiwon's feelings and never saw him as a real person but his idol and his ultimate dream and fantasy becoming a reality...
DG is such a messed up little shit if you ask me.
He is not innocent at all.
I hope the author doesn't just play the "victim" card with him and give him what he wants so easily while totally ruining Jiwon's character by making him do things that simply don't suit him.
DG at least for me needs to proof that he is actually worth something.
So far he is nothing but a typical girlie uke.Everyone likes him.because he makes cute blushing faces.

maybe you're right. i don't know, but for me i just feel like DG isn't just bad all around. who knows?

Pretty valid points there, not gonna lie. Can't believe that I never took that in.. DG technically raped Jiwon..? That's messed up.

whoa whoa whoa. raped? ok guys, DG is NOT that bad of a person. please don't slander him. everything they did was consensual and if we're gonna talk about anyone forcing anyone, Jiwon was considerably more aggressive than DG. Please don't forget that Jiwon made the advance on DG the night he was drunk. now i'm not gonna say that DG should've went along because of that, but it was not entirely his wrongdoing. Please don't put the entire blame on DG. he has his own feelings and he's made his mistakes, but he's wholehearted and whatever selfish acts he committed were pretty minor. Please don't overlook that Jiwon enjoyed times with DG, the date, the sex. Hell, Jiwon asked him for the sex at a few times. I just don't understand why everyone is giving Jiwon who's been cold to DG most of the time so much coddling and forgiveness but are being relentless and showing no remorse to DG who really has only made a couple mistakes but overall is a really mild character. I don't know guys, none of us wrote the story, but I feel like maybe we're all misreading it.

Nobody said DG is a bad person.We are just pointing out his mistakes that nobody ever does.
Nobody forgives Jiwon.People hate him.Call him jerk asshole etc all the time degrading his character,while praising DG.
Your mistake here is that you fall for DG's cute blushing faces and the fact that he is passive aggressive.
I know bitches like that very well.Don't ever trust them.
DG has been a horrible partner to Jiwon so far.
Don't try to justify him or erase his mistakes by mentioning Jiwon's mistakes.
Those do not make DG innocent.
He has caused as much harm as he has suffered and honestly in my opinion DG's wrongdoings are bigger because Jiwon is someone who probably has mental illness while DG is a healthy person.
Also DG had that conversation with Chanwoo and his friend told him that the reason Jiwon may be acting like that is because he has been hurt in the past.So DG kinda knew Jiwon's situation but still he didn't do anything about it.
He simply continued using sex hoping that Jiwon would fall for him.
DG is selfish and manipulative to say the least.
He almost destroyed Jiwon's career.
He almost exposed both their real identities in public.
And he did all those when he and Jiwon were not in a relationship.Imagine what demands DG will have and what he is capable of doing if he and Jiwon were actually together.
I wouldn't trust DG if I was Jiwon.
But Jiwon has pretty low standards of what love is because he has never experienced it so he probably is going to want DG back and that is very sad imo.
Lastly don't be like that.It doesn't matter what his intentions were or if he loves Jiwon or not.
DG has technically raped Jiwon at least twice.
And if you deny that then you have a problem.

ok, so i'm just gonna let this be here. i would've had no problem further discussing if you didn't decide to have an opinion on me personally. let me just say you don't know me and i don't know you and i have yet to say anything about you as a person. i'd like to clarify that you're misreading me trying to get you all to see that maybe we're being a bit too harsh on DG as me 'falling for blushing faces'. we're seeing this differently. all i i wanted to say was that we could consider looking at this differently. but i've said my pieces. i don't have to explain myself further. i don't think DG is malicious nor is responsible for rape or manipulation.

How can you not see the rape?
When DG walked into Jiwon's room when he was broadcasting and put his dick in his mouth without Jiwon's consent that was rape.
When Jiwon was totally drunk and DG took him back home and then he gave into sex with a drunken person who was completely out of it that was rape.He didn't had Jiwon's consent.A drunk person is not capable of giving consent.
The worst part is that DG realized this but instead of stopping everything he decided to enjoy himself now that Jiwon was sweet and vulnerable!
DG admitted that all this time he was going along with everything Jiwon wanted because he hoped that Jiwon would eventually love him.
That is manipulative.
I could go on but I also don't want to talk to a person who doesn't understand rape either.

how does going along with someone's desires make them manipulative? also, if Jiwon made the advance on DG, wouldn't that mean that DG didn't give consent?

DG was manipulative because he didn't do anything unconditionally.
He wasn't honest with Jiwon.
He was selfish he wanted a relationship with Jiwon and used sex to manipulate him and make him fall for him like that.
Also DG used Jiwon's mistake to force him into a date.
Jiwon was drunk that night.DG knew it.He had the upper hand and the ability to stop.everything.
Drunk people sometimes get sexual.However that doesn't mean it's OK to have sex with someone intoxicated.
You can see what intention DG had since he didnt even tell Jiwon what happened between them the previous night and Jiwon didnt remember anything so that means that DG technically did rape him.
That's a fact you can't deny.

ok. true.

Oof, I never said DG was bad, neither am I putting all the blame on him. I meant to say that if he actually did rape Jiwon, that would we be messed up.

I've never seen such an in-depth discussion about a BL comic. Honestly, you two have really good points. I'm not siding with anyone, but I'd say that they're both imperfect characters, who both did some not really good things..

Also to add, at least you peeps are well, I wouldn't say calling out, but pointing out that these characters aren't perfect. And aren't ignoring/excusing them for the wrong stuff they did. Which, honestly, is something I used to do.. They both have their own share of flaws and you guys aren't like some people who are just like "UwU my gaybies"

thanks uwu
long story short, i hope everyone turns out healthy, the end

It's pretty obvious that DG has raped Jiwon at least twice and Jiwon's reaction to it was pretty realistic.The first time he didn't even remember anything.He asked DG what happened but DG never said they had sex while Jiwon was drunk.
The second time he tried to resist it and he did manage to stop it eventually.
While in DG's case I cannot take those scenes very seriously mostly because of Mingwa's writing style and DG's reaction.
The first time Jiwon and DG had a hardcore bdsm section DG was perfectly fine and wanting to try the toys again.His only problem was that he was blindfolded and he couldn't see Jiwon's face.
The second time Jiwon overdid it with the sex toys DG was completely restored minutes after his supposed rape everyone makes such a huge deal about.He was shining and fanboying after he used the incident to guilt trip Jiwon into a forced date.
Rape victims are not like that.They don't use the rape to pursue a relationship with their rapist.They are not fine and glowing after the rape etc...
So instead of focusing only on DG's fake rape cases people need to see that Jiwon has been the one who has been actually raped by DG.
Nobody ever talks about it or mention it.Nobody has even noticed that DG has done such things.
That's sad.

yes hon we made it