Shiviy's Topics (22)

you are right how can this named love ? if I was her I will pretend to lve him and kill him in the end ..thank you ...who want me to be the heroine

You will be a better heroine than any of the shoujo heroines

One of my 1st webtoon in noblesse era. I remember going down to 27 then hear author left country with hopes of ever continuing. On other hand another serialisation from never "dimensional traveller" git cancelled I admire myself for not quitting on webtoon even with 2 going down at same time. But this series made me a raw hunter which continued in my Chinese scan finding ventures after several year. Miss the story when author finishes her current work hope she takes pity on her left out universe(〜￣△￣)〜

Nah, Will is an adult on the inside. In the novel he says how much thinking about the little girls makes him feel like a pervert and pedophile... I doubt, he'll fall in love with one of the younger girls, but who knows how anime and manga logic works??? ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I truly hope not but if it comes to that I'll just stop reading

God I hate those kinda stories

Right

There is the possibility that he could fall for a mature young lady. Not to mention he was born a high ranking noble. At some point the "Fiance" plot line is going to pop up.

What kind? Kinds with romance? Cause even if something has a little romance it can still be good tho? -3-;; idk maybe I've been thinking too hard and I've just confused myself. I am curious about why ppl dislike it tho. I'd love to hear.

this is the perfect comments ///i would give u a infinity likes but i can't

Thank you

same like they could jump of a building together and i wouldn't feel a thing for either of them. neither do I feel any pity for rogi. lmao petition to turn this into a 'wife' prequel instead. she is literally the best and most interesting chara here.

you really are naive don´t you? I know it´s kind of a strong image a mother commiting suicide and killing her son in the process but stop puting yourself in a high horse you no better that anyone, plus this just a manhwa so chill down won´t you??

it´s not only about weakness there are a lot of circumstances around different people besides it´s very difficult to people who all their life had suffered constant abuse, it distort all their reality and can´t see things straight or take decisions with a clear mind, so it turns to be more complicate to what it seems

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NiceDove that is good for you! For your fighting spirit and that you are a mother of 5! Honestly, I do not know how I would act if I was abused for years from my husband. The only abuse i felt was bullying at school (not even close but that is my only experience with violence). And things didn't turn well for me when I tried to fight back. So i felt horrible and i was down for a long time until the bully left school. By my small experience with violence I have to say that someone can feel depressed especially if he believes that even fighting back won't help him.

Just because you popped out five tiny humans doesn't make you an expert on human psych and motherhood.

Apart from the profound neurological and physiological damage she may have suffered as a result of repeated beatings and concussions (of which one documented effect is severe and chronic depression), there are all manner of possible threats, limited circumstances and soul-crushing experiences which could be affecting the mother's decisions and power: poverty, corruption, systemic misogyny, poor education, no community resources, no familial support, past parental abuse, shame, religious or political or cultural oppression, disabilities, physical illness, mental illness, past betrayals and treachery from people who should have supported her. Some people have the capacity to transcend whatever is thrown at them. Others cannot, especially if their own minds and bodies are betraying them.

The background details in this story are very sketchy, as would fit the recollections and understanding of the child who is all of ... what? 5...6-years-old?
But the way the father came after the mother and child in that final chapter makes me think that the grandmother reported him to the authorities, who brought him in and then released him with a warning, because they had no interest in the difficult job of policing domestic abuse. This sort of situation is commonplace in areas where police are not educated in proper crisis management, or where their time and resources are overstretched, or where they identify with the abusive spouse. The mother and child are left completely at the mercy of a vengeful and controlling violent thug, with no ideas how to safely get away from that situation and go ... where? Who will protect them? Who will shelter them? What will happen to them? What if the father has access to the sort of power that would allow him to track them down and execute them, gangland style?

It's easy to assume that solutions which work for us would apply to them when we know so little about their situation.

Not naive and it not just a manga it happens in real life so grow up.

No reason to judge her she tried to kill her child, That illegal first of all so I can judge.

It does not matter their situation you don't try to kill your child at any reason. There is no excuse she is a murderer. It's like saying oh he was abused as a child so it's okay if he kills people. Its not. No matter the situation you should never try to kill your child.

My best friend was was the victim of domestic violence it doesn't just happen with females and most people didn't believe him. Yes you will feel depressed but she should keep on fighting for her child to give him a better future instead of her kiling them both. Unfortunately life is hard and you suffer hardship because that's what life is but obstacles can be overcome the only obstacle that can't be overcome is death.

Agree with you there, but I expect that she is at the end of her wits, her mind immobilized with terror that the child will either die quietly and painlessly at her hand, or violently and painfully at his. The psychosis usually comes about in conjunction with the hormonal imbalances of post-natal depression, but has been known to appear as a result of trauma and in extremis, like during war or famine.

The important thing is not to confuse it with the Medea Complex, in which the mother is motivated by murderous hatred as a result of the need for revenge against the father, although both are antisocial personality disorders involving psychotic episodes.

But she is clearly mentally ill, and the DSMI-IV does list Brief Psychotic Disorder as a result of acute stress, which someone suffering from ongoing abuse might experience.

nice dove I really didn't want to be mean to you but you just have to go and open your big and ignorant mouth.

First you are the one that REALLY and I mean REALLY need to grown up, I know that domestic violence it´s real, a lot of women are murdered by their husband's hands, everyone knows at least one person that suffer from domestic violence but most of us don't go around wander
our moral wand judging everyone and placing ourselves over all people we happen to know, just because we think we are perfect.

Second the fact that you have five kids doesn't make you a great mother nor even good that just make you someone that doesn't think in the future, or probably a religious fanatic that doesn't believe in anti contraceptive measures or abort, or probably someone that doesn't have the education to know about family planification. In fact the fact that you have so many children I would believe that you are a disastrous mom that doesn't give enough time and caring that they need. First of all you have right now the money to provide every one of your children college education? probably not and probably all your money it´s going to their current education and to keep your house running, and even if you think that your husband earns enough money to sustain you that it's a fact that can change and you never know what the future could bring but you never stop to think about that, you just go and have more kids without knowing if you will be able to give them the best of opportunities, by the way I just asume that you don´t work because if you work it's obvious that you don't pay enough attention to your children, I mean you have five of them. It doesn't feel so great that a stranger judge right?? so grow up and don't do that you just end up like an ignorant and short minded piece of shit.

Third having a friend that suffered or is suffering from violence doesn't make you an expert, most of my aunts, my grandma, my children neighbour friends my sis and myself had have suffer from domestic violence and it´s not easy to overcome that kind of situation and everyone of us had respond in a different way to it

Plus the psychological damage it´s probably one of the hardest things to overcome, and when you happen to be suffering from abuse and have depression which if you didn't know it´s pretty common in this kind of situations, it really twist the reality and narrow your vision field leaving you with the sensation that you are lost, desperate and feeling miserable and probably the only way out you can see it's suicide, and leaving a child with an abusive father while you kill yourself doesn't sound so great either right? so instead of going around judging everyone placing yourself so high and magnanimous as if you were (jajajajja yes I'm making fun of you) and teaching your children this kind of shitty attitude and bad manners, try to understand that not everyone is as perfect as you (jaja) and have their own problems and different ways to see reality, but instead of being an arrogant bastard, do the best you can to help without being judgemental, and offer real help if you can.

First of all if you want to talk to someone and have a real conversation get an account. Second of all four of those kids I do not give birth but they are mines anyway, also I do not believe in any gods. Also both of us work not just my husband, I also don't care some stranger on the internet judge me, I'm confident in myself and really I don't get hurt by words so go ahead judge me say what you want it's not really going to bother me. But don't talk about my kids or I'll bash your head in. I bet you're not even a parent you talk so highly will you just an ignorant little kid hiding behind the computer screen. And no way or shape should you give an excuse for a mother or father to do any kind of harm to her child because then you are also part of the problem.

Oh yes so then you agree that the mother should kill her child, I hope you never have children.

I never talk about your kids I talk about you learn how to read first and obviously it did bother you so predictable don't you feel disgust for yourself? what I did it´s exactly what you have been doing and I know it's not right and I don't have the right to judge the same way you don't have the right to judge anyone because no one have that right because it's painful right?. Congratulations you learn something new, and if I'm not a parent it's because I know i can´t give a child the best future possible which would be pretty irresponsible if i have one, you follow?? and what I'm doing hiding behind a computer it's exactly what you are doing by the way if you can't see it you are dumber of what I think you were,and you talk like you are and adult cause you have children but you have the maturity of a pubertal girl and having kids and husband dosen´t make you a grown up if you didn't know it so grown up and stop doing shitty judges little girl

stupid girl no one has said it´s right cause that's homicide and that's bad, but your inability to see where she's coming from and what is driving her to that point makes you an ignorant, and the fact that you just judge her and place yourself so high and mighty makes you a fool and having the ability to see all that and understand her doesn't make me a to bad parent to be, but a better human being cause I can see that, and I have the confidence that I really can help those people without make them feel like shit or even worst of what they already feel, and cornering to a most dangerous situation but to help them in a real way so they can get out from there and put themselves and their kids out of danger, because that's the real important thing here if you can't see it probably you are not as a good human being or mother as you think so stop showin a shameful side of yourself and a bad example to your kids, and think what's the best for them and teach them how they can be of help instead of following tour footsteps and just fuck up the lives of others really you need to GROWN UP

my my my, someone seems angry. And you did talk about my kids they all have prepaid education so when they want to go to school it's already paid, I don't talk like an adult because I have children I talk like an adult because I am an adult. Only someone who doesn't have children excuses her, no parents will go that's okay she had a problems it's excusable, I'm sure the the court will love that. There's no excuse for her to do it and there's use to try an excuse her. I'm done with this repetitive conversation it's the same thing over and over. But it's very funny watching you get angry if you like keep going.

Again with my kids your so dull.

Well no one is like you. Yes the decision she made was dumb but remember this is a MANGA! A mother 5 hahaha you make me laugh compared to my aunt you are no one. She is a single mother with 7 plus 1 adopted one (a cousin of mine her parents died in a car crash) AND guess what there are moments that a mother BREAKS DOWN! We are all weak. When a mother has nothing and has been broken down constantly you end up losing confendece also plus the women in this manga has NO ONE! Everyone hates yer and no one is willing to help her ass. There are moments even my strong aunt cant handle and crys and ask herself question how is she gonna make it next week or tommorow but she has us me and my mom to help (well atleast like we are literally the only ones who help her) also this women in the manga has no job so triple kill. You say that cause you probably have people who helps you or you are secured.

My my getting angrier and 7 kids is nothing I come from a very big family. And it doesn't matter how many children is how you take care of them by providing them with shelter, safety, stability, Financial, and love. If you don't have any of those then you shouldn't have a child if she married the man and before they had a kid she saw how he was she should have got an abortion or left. Instead of bringing your child into the world to suffer like you. But we still don't know when all that started it will be interesting if the manga would explain it.

NiceDove Who said that the mother should kill her child? A mother or a father should protect their kids. Of course it happens to men too, I never stated the opposite. All I meant "is in your healthy state of mind is easy to judge her and declare that this will never happen to you". If you believe that even if you were sick you would never harm your kids then good for you, but I wouldn't be able to be declare that. If I was ill I do not know what I would do because my actions wouldn't be filtered by my logic.
There is a possibility that depression will lead to commiting a suicide. She believes (as mentally ill she is) that the only way to save her child is by killing it in his sleep with no pain. I think that someone who is psychological sick needs the help from others to understand what he/she is doing or else his/her actions would be erratic and sometimes they could be dangerous. And not people abusing him/her even more by not talking to him/her, judging him/her as a bad father/mother/person, etc. Because then they will feel that helpless and the only escape route will be death.

Why

The art was horrible but I gave the story a try anyway and I regret it, both where horrible.

Well to each his own

i hope you still remember them cause i'm interested