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What do you mean about " is should know, hart and i are similar in that sense"?

It's so fucking damn sad, it makes me cry..

oh, that i am also somewhat using people for my eventual death. i’m constantly taking advantage of them until they crack and tell me to kms so i can. i mean there’s other ways i have just in case but that would be the shortest. and i agree, hart and jasper’s stories are so depressing

We call it realistic

true

Maybe in the manga's world he's an adult, but in our world he's not. We're the ones reading it and the ones receiving the message it's telling. People can try to defend it as "well in the manga's world..." til they're blue in the face but it'll never change the fact that the author decided to write that world that way.

I get your point, just remember that we are following just one man's route, we don't know what else people do, for example his grannies are farmers, not adventures so it means that there are a lot of options for people there.

Also, take in fact Earth's history, back in time when there were a lot of ills and things like that, having a child younger helped to maintain the population, now we are over populated, but you can think that they are in the same issue... and if you are going to point the fact that magic can help a lot, just remember that humans are weak, also Karna has been stated a lot of times that he is a great exception, I suppose that the way he can heal an Injury or sickness ain't that common, that's why they need to be younger to became adults.

So, if you are going to use ti XXI century thinking in a manga, well... you have a kind of an issue too... bc that's just fantasy, not reality... it's like believing that Tom Holland's spiderman shouldn't be doing his heroics works bc he is a teenager...

(im going to be mainly talking about the last part) in tom holland’s case,, yeah, kind of. teenagers are supposed to be growing and experiencing things, not being put in life-threatening dangers. im not saying that he SHOULDNT do heroic things because he can, but keep in mind that hes a teen. he was given a power that he didnt want, and was somewhat forced to be labeled as a hero. there are so many challenges, but he shouldnt have to do all of this because he was unlucky enough to be bitten by a spider. he can be a hero all he wants but when he wants to stop and there’s danger, dont hold it against him as it isnt his fault. and with the other things, its a literally what, 13 ? year old kid. i really doubt that him calling himself the exception justifies an old lady hitting in him and eanting to marry and possibly breed with him. age doesnt really matter if youre OF AGE but i think both that manga and us as readers should know thats not exactly what they meant. i mean at this point its whatever bc its not like me complaining would get me anywhere, but i still find it strange.(づ￣ ³￣)づ

I'd argue that in the case of spider-man that him being a teenager and a super hero is one of the major points that the series explores. You get to see peter struggle with being both and how it's positively and negatively impacting his life. You don't walk out of the theater thinking "Wow, peter has a perfect life. I wish I was him", you walk out thinking "Wow, teenage struggles with the added responsibility running around and saving your friends from people that are trying to hurt them to hurt you? No thanks." It's not trying to say being a teen superhero is right or wrong. It's exploring the concept and showing a reality of what it might be like if it did happen.
I'm pretty sure this story isn't going explore the concept of a 13 year old getting groomed by a sex-demon. It's going to make it look sexy and skip out on all the creepy bits. That's what I have a problem with.

see but superhero movies are never really that accurate in that sense but thats another debate. and yeah i guess i agree with that, i just still fond the concept weird

hahahahahahahaha sorry... it just makes me laugh how we off-topic this thing... it was good to read btw...

She wasn't bad ..but i feel they had a development which just felt incomplete like it did not feel genuine to me

After they get in relationship i thought it was cute ..but ITS the MC !! WE NEED something more destiny stricken situation
Lmao
Anyway
This took long lets see what more is in store haha

i guess so

but also how the black guy called MC a yellow monkey... which is a derogatory term towards asians. i feel like both these terms should’ve been avoided

i agree. i feel like both jokes were very inappropriate considering the history around that. and author-nim knows at least the basics since they made the ‘joke’. i feel like that chapter was very ignorant

I think the author added it to add more personality to the character. Like how the black character reacted to the word slave, he then said yellow monkey to counter.
This is what I thought about it.

It's disgusting. Fuck this author and the series. It's a typical portrayal by East Asian comics of black people as brainless "apes" who exist to just be brute force or angry characters who hate Japan/China/Korea, depending on the country of origin of the author. It's fucking gross.

hmm this is the first time i’ve seen something like this in a manga so i can neither agree or disagree with you. Also hate between koreans and japanese are more portrayed than any other race in mangas/hwas since they both have history with e/o

I think some people may be overreacting with that scene. I don't think it was written in as a joke...so I'm not sure why people are saying they were jokes. It was a dialogue between two people who are enemies with one another...

As one commenter pointed out, it was to give those characters more dimension other than just trash characters who will just die. I do agree that it is probably unnecessary.

I just have to point out that MC didn't call the black guy a slave directly...the spell turned the whole group into his slaves and he was just explaining how it worked...black dude just got particularly offended because of history obviously. MC should probably have known better, but since he is not originally in the timeline, his tone-deafness is kinda expected.

what do you mean he isn’t originally in the timeline? He was born and raised in the 20/21st century and recovered his memories from a past life. That means he understands the original time’s history too. MC didn’t direct it towards the black dude but it’s valid he feels offended and said sth racist back. but i just feel like it was very unnecessary and added nothing to the story. it didn’t give any dimension to the black character nor the MC because it kinda portrays the black dude in a negative light in the sense he got offended when it wasn’t directed at him specifically. I wouldn’t say they were enemies, black dude was just hired he doesn’t have any personal vendetta against MC so his dialogue wasn’t even necessary in the first place.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE FOLKS!!! it was really unnecessary to add and personally made me feel uncomfortable and some type of way. i hope author-nim learns from this experience

yeah i can’t help but feel the author intentionally used those kinda dialogues to get these kinda reactions. It only portrays the Black guy as overly sensitive in my opinion.

i kind of agree. i feel like the black dude would’ve been hostile sure, but lashing like that?? not really realistic but i get it bc some people may do that and it’s a valid reaction

some ppl say black ppl are overly sensitive about these things and this dialogue exchange with the MC just gives more weight to that statement. Personally for me it added nothing to the black dude’s personality and was just completely unnecessary.

yeah the way he got offended didn’t seem realistic like he knew the word wasn’t directed specifically at him, + he was amongst the ones to attack him first that’s why it seems the reaction/dialogue was unnecessary. Some ppl may lash out like that but given the situation it didn’t fit in

Yes I do agree it isn't necessary but it can still be added for more depth. Let's say for example another person reacted like how the black character reacted will it have the same impact? The objection will be regarded as resistance because he/she doesn't want to follow MC command. But if a black person reacted to the word slave, it could trigger a lot more background to his resistance therefore justifying his action more. The author just failed to put more thought on how this part is laid out which is why it feels so out of place. I'm just trying to view it in a writer's perspective.

This was still an unnecessary thing to add. It didn't add any depth to the story at all. What my ancestors went through ISN'T something that should be added in-depth. It wouldn't even have been a big deal as it was if MC didn't call him an idiot. MC KNOWS the history, and even if he doesn't, author nim obviously does. So having MC call the black guy an idiot for reacting the way he did is uncalled for.

i agree

You would have also spouted a racial slur to the person who didn't even say that you were a slave directly (he addressed the whole group affected by the spell fyi)???

I do think it was a very realistic reaction. But it was very unnecessary and could have just not been included...I wonder why the author had to include that exchange.

I wouldn't have said a racist discriminatory word, but I def would have been pissed and would have lashed. ANd even fucking so that's still would've gotten on my nerves. also, if ur a vanilla gorilla stfu. mc called the dude an idiot for lashing out the way he did, which was completely inappropriate as MC would have definitely learned at least abt slavery. Overall author-nim shouldv'e never included it.

So basically the comments r telling me to not b sensitive to this topic and i really hope they are also black or otherwise shut up please. It is not your place especially if you're a whyte

I sure hope op is just trolling...

who me? being actually upset that this happened? no. i’m not trolling. and if you mean the vanilla gorilla part in still not joking :)

I believe the story is as accurate as possible. You can't pretend that everyone is a saint. There are obviously people who would use racial slurs against others when they're pissed or mad. It's when someone can't control their emotions. I think what the author was trying to portray is that such things are still there. For one the two sides are enemies, whether they were hired or not. Secondly, when the MC said slaves he meant everyone in the parallel subspace. The black dude took offence as some people might have irl and shot back a racial slur. Thirdly I believe calling him an idiot at the end wasn't a part of being racist it was just a show of how he didn't believe that they were his 'slaves'. Considering he explains at the end how the collar reacts when they try to attack him should prove that. I don't think we should be rude to the author or even drop this unless you're uncomfortable that's on you. But the author is showing the good while also the dark side of this world and I think most readers aren't ready for such works. It's actually a big step and a big risk for the author to do so but sometimes something's need to be said. Discrimination exists in the world, who said it doesn't exist in books too?

of course i know not everyone is a saint; the main point i’m trying to express here is that it’s a touchy subject that the author really had no place putting there. most likely in reality the person may be upset but it’s like the author is placing the black dude as overly sensitive and “idiotic”. i know discrimination exists in books, i like books that can show discrimination. most stories do an excellent job though as well. this was just an inappropriate add in that the author didn’t have to do. i believe the author DOES need to explain themselves and their intention for the scene bc all i’m getting from this is negative emotions for the black guy.

Yeah it makes black people seem more racist towards asians

I don't have Webtoon app it's a bit buggy so I read it on the website so you should do that too, the website let's u read it for free

like mine doesn’t work at all. it hasn’t for a hot min but i’ll check again just to see

I'm telling you don't use the app

On mobile go to this link https://m.webtoons.com/ and you can read from there, bit slow but way better than the app

thanks!

np!!