BONE MAM's Topics (22)

YOU CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD SO BAD AHAHAHAJWKW OH KALAQO

so down bad for him fuck the rest

you’re absolutely right, JAY’S OWN MANHWA WHEN

another reason to dramatically look out the window and question everthing

girl BLESSED..?!?

BWAHAHAH I LITERALLY HAVE TO DO A DOUBLE TAKE GIRL WHUT??

yall are disguting ...ur happy for a gang rape graphic scene ?ew

Its fictional its not real...

get some help you sick weirdo

I'm a weirdo? When we're all reading this? Please its not even real why do you have to be soo serious about it? just so you know this shit is fictional and some people don't give a damn fuck and just want to read and those who are reading this KNOWS the content of what's in it it's not weird its the truth so don't tell me "get some help bullshit" because tbh we all need help.... Sorry if i sound rude but you pissed me off a bit but i am sorry if i made you feel uncomfortable.

pls dont be sry just bunch of useless haters

Ur not just rude, ur absolutely disgusting, there’s a difference between reading something fictional and wanting something bad like gang rape to happen and being excited for it. The problem isn’t us reading it but the fact that yall are ecstatic to see someone raped ( which if u didn’t know is a REAL problem that ppl esp woman go through.) Whether the material is fictional or not, the acts are very much real. Ur weird for wanting or even being excited for something that happens to everyone ppl. This is why I hate the bl fandom, yall normalize rape like it just something that ppl do as a past time.

How are we haters for telling some that wanting to see raped is werid, yall be using words yall don’t know

It’s hypocritical because you’re reading it too

I didn't say i was excited i was just laughed because i don't find it serious and yes rape is very real thing and its not something to joke about you are right about that and i apologize but... How am i disgusting when you're also reading this too? and the part you said "normalize rape" its not normalize it's just what the plot of the story is and also it's not real if this were a true crime case where someone "actually" got rape thats a whole different story but this is fictional... Thank you for hearing me out and sorry for the drama i started.

reading it vs being excited for it to happen is completely different.

I’m only reading it because I read the novel and I want to see how the novel is gonna adapt certain things within the manwha. But not even that I feel like what makes it different from people reading it and this comment is that there’s people who find pleasure in this. I’m not sitting up here saying “ I can’t wait to see next chapter

Anyone can read something that’s part of the story, but that’s different from being excited about it happening. Maybe you worded it wrong but it came off as you being excited for the gang rape to happen to the MC, which is why others have responded that way to you.

No worries! I just hope you aren’t reacting the same way towards reality.

I agree. I don’t understand the ‘you’re reading it too’ because that is completely different from enjoying that happening.

That’s what I’m trying to say like true crime you could still watch a case about rape but as long as you as a person is not feeling excited about it happening, that’s what makes it different. There are people in the comments or the BL fandom that literally have normalized rape and are excited for it to happen in a manwha. You for example, you literally said that your eyes are gonna get “blessed” blessed from what? you know that next chapter is going to be raped and then your explanation is because it’s not real, it’s fictional that’s you literally trying to normalize it. Whether real or fictional being that excited to see it happening or thinking that you’re getting blessed in anyway, is not normal. There is a difference between viewing a material, which were all are doing, yes I can admit that, and literally trying to fantasize rape in a story.

I agree with this, maybe they worded it wrong but I only find an issue is them saying that it’s fictional and not real as a way to downplay it.

Right, I’m not saying I’m not reading it obviously I’m reading it, the difference if I’m not excited to see someone about to get gang rape.

I’m saying like fym you’re going to be blessed by seeing someone get gangr*ped, fiction is literally an emulation of reality wether people like it or not, not only that this story serves no purposes but to entertain a fantasy lol it’s not even like satire or serves any meaningful value in addressing a real life issue, that is is how the topic of rape should be handled, but no “it’s just fiction” that is such a severely brain dead response that shows they only look at the surface of things like why tf is it so hard for you guys to reflect on the media you read, and also the comments being “you’re a hypocrite cause you read it too” ok I’m reading it too but with a completely different mentality in mind, I’m not reading it because I love reading men getting raped, I’m reading it becase I want to understand why ppl interact with this type of media. I look at comments and the authors past work. I don’t do this for the thrill but because it’s concerning.

This. Especially the: I’m not reading it because I enjoy seeing it happen. I don’t know how they correlated reading this to enjoying it. Completely irrelevant and different!!

I said ill be blessed. If thats sick to you fine doesnt matter to me cry about it if you need to. Not sure what you want me to say

Honestly, thank you. It’s wild how people jump into fiction they know is gonna have problematic stuff, then act brand new and holier-than-thou when it shows up. Like… we all knew what this was when we clicked. It’s fiction. Nobody’s endorsing it in real life, and if some of us wanna enjoy the mess, let us. Not everything needs to be catered to fit someone’s moral compass. If you don’t like it, close the tab and move along.

I enjoy killing in shooting games and non-con from time to time and you don't see me shooting up schools or out raping people. The fact something can happen in real life doesn't mean consuming it in fiction makes it happen or endorses it.

LMAO it’s not irrelevant at all. If you’re voluntarily reading a story with content warnings you’re fully aware of, you’re still choosing to engage with it. You don’t get to sit in the same room, watch the same movie, and then act morally superior because you claim you "don’t enjoy it."

Bro, it’s messed-up fiction meant to entertain messed-up fantasy whether you like it or not. Fiction has always been a sandbox for taboo, dark, and uncomfortable scenarios. People have written worse for centuries. If you’re so concerned, you wouldn’t be voluntarily sitting in the comment section of something you clearly find morally repulsive. If it’s "concerning" to you, maybe stop doom-scrolling through smut forums and calling it research. And yes, if you’re engaging with the content, regardless of your self-proclaimed "different mentality," you’re still part of the audience. Lurking out of preformative outrage is still participating. Spare us the moral TED Talk.

Being aware of what you’re going to read is still different from enjoying that the certain scene is happening! We are on an illegal website, the reading isn’t support the author.

Actually? People do. There’s a reason why there’s variation of criticism and non-criticism. Are you telling me everyone that watches a horror movie with murder and shock factors supports killing because they merely watched it? That is insane logic.

I do NOT enjoy rape. It is not a claim, but a fact that you shouldn’t try to change to fit your agenda.

I’m aware of this too. I only commented because I thought OP had the same feelings toward reality as well, but clearly not as they mentioned otherwise. And I do separate fiction and reality, and I have my own dark fantasies that involve rape which will scare some but it’s not like I CHOSE that.

Also, shocking but people can still read something that they criticise certain scenes of.

I do hope everyone got their morals straight in reality. Sure as hell hope you don’t want anyone with rape fantasies (ones that want to do in real life, not just fiction) near you.

It is a fact that not all enjoys something just because they sit in the same room, watching the same movie.

I thought this was common sense. Reading something disturbing doesn’t automate: enjoy it. You can critically engage with dark material — just like people do with war films, true crime, or dark lit to understand it, and condemn it.

Intentions is also important for YOU to learn. Someone reading to analyze or crit is doing something much different than someone reading for pleasure or excited for rape to happen. That’s what others got from OP’s title of post, and responded that way.

Had OP mentioned that they don’t react the same in reality versus fiction, I guarantee the responders wouldn’t have been as surprised.

Critique does NOT EQUAL moral superiority, you created a false dichotomy as if people can only read such content for pleasure or stay away entirely.

Engagement, especially on an illegal site that doesn’t support author, doesn't always mean endorsement

Being aware of something happening doesn’t mean people will be so excited to see it happen. I get that some people like to see dark stuff time to time, but don’t get surprised if you post something like this.

“It’s just fiction”; is a common defence, and it’s half true: fiction does allow people to explore dark, taboo, or harmful ideas without real-world consequences. Keyword: without consequences.

BUTT fiction still exists in a social context — it reflects and can influence how people think, feel, and empathize. So, dismissing all critique with “it’s just fiction” or how it’s just moral superiority can ignore that stories do affect people DIFFERENTLY, especially survivors of trauma.

I also don’t like too much of the morally people, but those are the ones that shame on just about any level of dark/taboo stories. Mocking some who are uncomfortable with certain content or trying to discuss it critically is just the other extreme.

Saying “just don’t read it” doesn’t consider the fact that people may come across it unintentionally and wouldn’t really know in first place, or not considering that being disturbed by fictional content is a NATURAL human response.

You can enjoy problematic fiction IN FICTION and respect others’ concerns about it. Don’t mock!

^ ABOVE response about the it’s just fiction is NOT DIRECTED AT OP. It’s just in general since it was brought up here in the discussion.

This entire argument is just “yuck I saw all these people at the depraved sex store” “girl what were you doing at the depraved sex store”?

were all reading the same shit weve said that already like obviuosly ur not special for reading taboo, heavy stuff but yall are thrilled being all gitty for the brutal rape scenes to happen ,this shit was not directed at u but at the person who happily anticipating the gang rape like its a romantic scene in a shoujo story but seeing how uve jumped to their defance ig ur the same as them ,im still reading this story giving i read some spoilers and i want to see how this will unfold up ,and litrally skipped the brutall rape scenes cus theyre too much i felt phisically ill but anyways that's me...like litrally whats the diffrence between u and those incels who enjoy rape and deranged stories ...and ppl gave u examples SO STOP PLAYING DENSE ...

and yall wonder why ppl hate fujos when we have these type of ppl bragging about rape

Like…if it’s about dark fantasies just keep it to yourself, I don’t think y’all have the audience here for that

No, I think mangago is exactly the place for that this site is basically the concentration of all the sin in the world. But to be honest, I don't really believe in the idea of "reading something fucked up but in an intellectual way that's diametrically opposed to the way all those evil fujos are reading it". People are so preoccupied with not seeming problematic that they need there to be some morally beautiful reason for reading this story. But I know that it's not for analytical reasons. Because if it were, then they would be reading literally anything else that doesn't make rape inherently pornographic. I think it can be a combination of shock-value seeking and self harm for some people, which is really sad, but it still doesn't make them less perverse.

You can skip scenes, read spoilers, write a moral essay, and light a prayer candle, it won't matter. You're still here reading the same shit as everyone else. The difference is, some of us don't pretend we're better than the room while choosing to sit in it. You’re not a martyr for hate-consuming fiction. Either log off or stop acting like you’ve got the moral high ground. Nobody’s buying it.

And the difference is, I know it’s fiction. I’m not out here pretending my personal taste in made-up stories defines my morals in real life, and I’m definitely not projecting my discomfort onto strangers to feel superior. You’re reading the same shit, you just slapped a fake halo on your head to cope with it. You should stop playing dense, you’re not special for hate-reading.

Funny how you’re like in a public comment section telling people to"keep it to yourself" while commenting yourself. The OP was literally just saying what they like. If it’s not for you, keep scrolling. You’re not the audience either.

Right you’re reading it just like everyone else stfu

I mean, in specific parts of Mangago yes, but there will be ‘moral police’ around so prepare.

And oh no I get that. That’s why I believe in the: reality affects fiction, not really the other way around. No offence but those craving dark stuff tends to have more mental health issues than those who don’t (including me, I have an urge to see dark stuff and just shock myself even though I know my heart can’t handle it + mentality.

I do this to myself on an almost daily basis .

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Real brainiac moves over here not sure if you can see the likes

That ratio of likes to the majority won’t change.

Cute majority curious who that is didnt know 10 was higher than 17

Literally look at the comment section. It’s not that hard. And I’m not sure why you’re so focused on your 17 likes, you’re in your own little well.

not everyone who agrees with me needs to join the comment war your ‘majority’ is like five people arguing in circles

being excited for seeing someone getting r*ped can’t be justified by “it’s fictional” you’ve not rude, you’re sick and motherless. reading it vs being excited for sa is not the same. not all the readers like YOU enjoy the plot, they just wanna see how it will end. go and burn in hell.

Majority as in the comment sections, not your little pond.

ur slow huh ...brain dead fr

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I need to see jiwooks bloody asshole go cry abt it

Wow…you’re in luck, I think.

And to be honest, call me fucked but he got a taste of what Juyeon had to endure (maybe a bit more intense but the point is this is Juyeon’s ‘justice’ imo). Two gang rapes in story as far as I remember from novel, that’s it.

I understand that fiction explores many topics, especially taboo, dark, or uncomfortable. But this medium in particular, as many others still exploit real-life issues, so we shouldn’t pretend it doesn’t have any real-world impact just because it’s labeled as “messed-up fiction meant to entertain messed-up fantasy.” That’s so severely reductive. I’m not going to stand here and pretend I’m a good person, because I still read questionable shit, but I’m not going to make weird comments and tell myself “well it’s just fiction” either. That’s just not the person I am and it’s fine if you fw this, but I just reacted in bad taste because I found it so offensive what they said. My bad for having boundaries and agreeing with someone who agrees with me.

I’m not trying to be proper or correct; in fact, I’m not even trying to stroke the moral ego you’re implying I have, and I just think it’s worth asking how we engage with it. Stories do indeed form our perspectives, fiction or not, it’s still based in human experience, even the Eldritch and alien bases their stories in war, colonization, fear of the unknown, etc. Even this story is based on a modern timeline based on human experience, such as revenge, sexual assault, education, social hierarchy, and homophobia and so many things. That’s it.

I’m still reading illegally on this website, and I did read the first couple of chapters, so there’s no room for me to claim I’m better than someone, but I can still get offended when I read something that discomforts me, so I agreed with someone who feels the same as me.

I scroll a few minutes to get an idea of the reader's thoughts, who doesn’t do that? I do that for any medium I come across. It’s not “doom-scrolling” to make an observation and form an opinion. I’m not digging up and scrapping quotes from this comment section or any other platform. I’m not looking for “research” to write some scientific thesis, you’re blowing this out of proportion.

Yes, I’m still part of the audience, don’t make it too obvious. But I am not the target audience. You can’t lump everyone together and reduce it to “well, you’re here and that’s that.” People seek mediums for different purposes, and this reply section is proof of that. Yeah, we’re all in the same boat, but we’re not all headed in one direction. It’s like watching those police body cams on YouTube. People have their ways of interacting with the media, but it’s all a matter of intention.

Also, performative outrage…? Lol, I’m literally in this comment section of an illicit website sharing my piece with someone who I agree with and people who agree with me. Once they did, that was the end of the conversation for me. This isn’t a publicity stunt lol

You don’t have to reply btw

Dude, I'm sorry but I really can't get behind this idea that people's intentions about this media are enough to relieve them of the moral burden of reading problematic shit in the first place. You bring up cop bodycam footage, which falls into the exact same thing I was talking about. Of course, that's a more serious matter at hand because it's real life. But whether you're watching those videos because you want to analyze criminal body language or because you just really love the cops, you are all still participating as an audience member. And that specific example is particularly heinous because it's boosting the soft power of the pigs, but I digress. In my opinion when it comes to these graphic stories we are all the same and we are all headed in the same direction. And that direction is sin, lol. Even if you're reading just for shock value or because you have a perfectly innocent desire to see what happens next, you are still participating in a voyeuristic manner. Same as all of us.

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Cute insult. Still doesn’t change the fact you’re here reading like the rest of us. Stay mad.

Appreciate the long essay, but you kinda proved my original point without realizing it. You’re still here, still reading, still reacting... just with a different justification. And that’s fine. No one said you couldn’t feel a way about fiction, but the issue’s always been people acting like their personal discomfort grants them moral authority over others in the same space. Everyone navigates fiction differently. Some lean in, some critique, some skip scenes, some scroll past. None of it makes one person inherently better than another for being here. That’s it. No one’s saying stories exist in a vacuum, but at the end of the day, this is a sandbox. And no amount of "I’m only here for the discourse" changes the fact you still chose to watch it play out.

So you scammed me? You'll pay for this /jk

BAHAHA I LIVE THIS COMMENT. But I’m pretty sure he’s just a power bottom

You honestly never know depends on what you read he does seem to be a power bottom though time will tell

Yeah i did realise that but iykyk..