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MC didn’t he was staring at the fish in the aquarium. ML was the one staring at him. MC’s only mistake he smiled back, I mean it was his job to smile.

victim blaming again?

Pretty sure they’re talking about chapter 3 when he’s blatantly staring at the guys dick and blushing over it

I’m pretty sure it’s still not okay to victim blame especially when a person is trying to do their job and the other person/customer has condoms all over the floor their dick out watching and judging you I think it’s pretty safe to say that that’s not normal or expected and the employee has every right to be uncomfortable or embarrassed by the situation

that doesn't excuse the ml's action

Never said it did but yall can’t read so I had to clarify for yall what scene the op was actually referencing

I’m pretty sure I never said shit about victim blaming like are yall this illiterate or is it on purpose? I was clarifying the scene in question not whatever scenario u got in your head. You’re also giving way too much credit to bl authors it’s pretty fucking obvious she’s making him the “unwilling willing” bottom to make SA and rape palatable for the readers like a hundred other authors do which is why she makes him consider selling his body in chapter 1 and makes him blush and stare at his dick, not say “I don’t want this once” but instead saying “that’s not it..” every time he offers him money like you’re forgetting the SAer is the ML that’s the whole setup for this story

I know what chapter the op was referring. my point is even if you personally weren’t victim blaming, your comment reinforces OP’s logic, which implies the MC brought it on himself just for looking

Yall are funny discussing victim blaming on this manhwa when the author is quite clearly gonna make the bottom attracted to the SAer despite the clear future shots of abuse we saw bc he’s literally the ML there’s no “victim” to be blaming bc like many other shitty manhwas the SA is gonna be swept under the rug, the bottom ain’t gonna give a fuck about it after he’s out of that room, the tops never gonna acknowledge it as SA rather he’s probs gonna keep doing it and the bottom gonna keep going back to him and get in bed with him and then fall in love with him I’ll give the author props if she subverts all expectations and has the story end with him realizing he might’ve been gaslit and in a toxic relationship and leaves the ML but so far all signs point to…that ain’t happening

First of all being illiterate means not being able to read you’re talking about reading comprehension, which obviously you lack second of all what you said was victim blame me and shaming the way it came across. Was you put everything on the bottom your syntax and diction also gives a sense that you’re agreeing with the other victim blamer you are acting like blushing was flirting act when blushing come from being uncomfortable or embarrassed and this is you helping perpetuate and feed into rape culture people calling it out are trying to either educate on or eradicate rape culture you saying there is no victim is disgusting the employee being taken advantage of by their employer or customer is quite literally sexual assault and sexual harassment and just because the victim doesn’t understand, their victim doesn’t take away from what has happened to them you’re trying to make excuses and fit things in boxes so you don’t sound like the bad guy and your minimizing things to fit your narrative the top is literally using financial physical, sexual and power imbalance to be abusive to control and groom the bottom there’s no if ands or butts about it and people could get sa by the person they like it happens in marriages. It happens in relationships. It happens in friendships you point are invalid Like at this point, I think you just have brain rot you’re dismissing things because it happens in other manga, but that doesn’t make it OK you’re helping to normalize and perpetuate rape culture

You're still illiterate considering you're sounding like a 12 year old with that grammar...and you also showed your lack of reading comprehension because I didn't excuse shit I'm just telling it how it is because that's exactly what's gonna happen: the bottom and top will get together even though the top SAed him in chapter 3 and will most likely do even worse in future chapters. You're acting holier than thou when you're the one here reading this manhwa that's full of SA and coercion and that normalizes those things because again the top is not gonna be called out, he won't admit to anything, and the bottom will fall in love with him in the end. Like do you not see your dumbassery and your hypocrisy? There is no "victim" blaming in this manhwa precisely because the author did not write a victim. That's not my opinion or me dismissing his SA; it's the reality of the situation. The author didn't write an SA scene so that they could send a message about SA...they wrote that scene because they wanted the MC and ML to be sexually involved and they wanted the ML to be forceful and they think it's okay for the ML to SA him. They didn't write the bottom as a victim in the situation because they don't think it's a crime! Like get it through your thick skull lmfao. Anyways I'm not gonna be writing a dissertation in the comments section of a manhwa. Say or think whatever you want in the end you getting outraged at victim blaming and rape culture about a manhwa while reading a manhwa that literally glorifies rape and SA speaks for itself...

You literally describe the bottom being abused, gaslit, and trapped in a toxic relationship, but then say ‘there’s no victim’? That kinda contradicts your whole point. Just because the story might brush off the abuse doesn’t mean the discussion around victim blaming isn’t valid. Be serious. If this isn’t SA to you, maybe recheck what you think consent looks like

He isn’t a victim in the story…because the author did not write a victim. That’s the whole point. Learn to comprehend. We think him as a victim bc we’re in the real world and can recognize SA, abuse toxicity etc. still doesn’t change the FACT that the author isn’t gonna recognize any of that and make him fall in love with the ML.

A victim exists the second there’s abuse, whether the author acknowledges it or not. The writing ignoring it is exactly what makes it victim blaming — you just explained our point for us

You lack the ability to separate the real world and how our opinions based on reality affect what we read versus the story itself as a standalone. We can call him a victim all we want still doesn’t change that in the story he is not one because the author characterizes him that way. Either way I’m done discussing this at the end of the day no matter how much yall argue about this yall the same ones reading this story…

You’re right that the author doesn’t frame him as a victim that’s exactly why people point out the victim blaming. The story normalizes abuse by refusing to call it what it is. That’s the whole issue. Plus, you’re reading it too, so we’re all the same. Guess none of us are above it

Exactly and the author needs to make that aunty less clingy and rubbing up on MC.