I know that sometimes artists and authors will ignore facts to be able to tell a good story, but it bothers me that they keep having sex after tattooing and he keeps touching the places that have been tattooed. Not only is it very stupid, risk of infection and stuff, but it would be super fucking painful as well. Such a turnoff. Knowing that I just flinch at the sex scenes. Which is a shame because it's a beatiful and nice story in every other sense.
I really dislike smoking and when people smoke, it's a turn off for me (no offense to anyone who smokes) so it really bothers me in mangas. I guess it's the same for you and freshly tattooed skin ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Its not just about the infection and being a literal wound, but also the scars itself.
You can cover them up with tattoos but here they're shown as incredible deep healed flesh wounds. You can't go over all fancy with bright and soft colors. You need some heavy black.
But its Manga Magic so whatever I guess
I'm kinda tired of these "understanding" friends who are seen as such good people even though they're really uneducated and have a pretty harmful attitude. "Why they chose that kinda life" or whatever he said, it's just... It hurts my lesbian heart to know that people actually think that, and then it's presented as the friend being understanding. I just wish the asian countries could evolve quicker regarding these issues. Feel bad for my fellow sisters and brothers over there.
Agreed, except I'd point out that plenty of Westerners think the same thing or have different kinds of harmful tropes that play out in media. Let's not make it seem as if it's only Asian countries "over there" need to "evolve"...
I never said that? We can discuss eastern european countries too, but that's not really related to Asian comics. Neither is it related to it being illegal in many african and middle eastern countries. But I was talking specifically about how the idea of it being a choice is bad and this lowkey homophobia being presenter as normal and okay. And if you feel that I picked a bad word to describe it I'm sorry if it offended you but English isn't my native language so I thought it was the right word.
true. its also sad hearing the "i dont care part" :/ as someone who
's bisexual i can only imagine what kinda biphobic shit theyd say. worst part is they wont even know its bad or offensive until you tell em, and sometimes they dont even listen when u do
I understand your point, I'm not gay but I have some friends and I know many friends of my daughter who are gay or bisex. I live in Europe in a country where homosexuality is still seen by many as a disease or a lifestyle choice to boredom. So when I say I understand your point I mean it, but I don't agree completely. Precisely because we live in this type of country, finding someone who, even if he does not fully understand what it means to be gay, however, tries without having any prejudice to be your friends and declare that he will be on your side when someone is mean to you, that is very important and a very understanding person. I understand that this is frustrating for you, but isn't a person like that, better than someone who spits insult at you and makes your life difficult? I prefer sincere people like the friend who tells you without hiding how he thinks rather than those who just pretend to understand..my friend say that the first step to make people understand, you have to understand their point of view first, it's the only way to understand each other.
im pretty sure this person understands that that's ("isn't a person like that, better than someone who spits insult at you and makes your life difficult?") way better but the thing is, in comparison to just respecting and being fully understanding for the whole community, its still bad, yknow? like okay we get it thank you but the fact that this mentality is so commonly popular is such a pain because its like... will they Ever improve? imo it makes me feel less accepted as a person. like just because im not a cishet suddenly im respected but not necessarily understood well :/
and i dont mean to be an ass but if youre not gay then i think a lot of us would prefer if you kinda layed low or didnt say that stuff cause,, well, even if you made a point, you cant necessarily say much? i seriously dont intend to sound like a dick here its just the logic that for ex. if youre not trans, you cant speak for trans people. that kinda thing
I know it wasn't my intention to offend in any way, I did say too that I have friends and one of them is trans and me too don't intend to sound polemic but I don't know which country are you from but I assure you that in my country to be understood by a person like the friend is gold,and this is what says my friend
too. I didn't want to sound presumptuous and I didn't say that what I think is law, I only said that I didn't think that the friend was such an ass, only there are persons worse than him, at last in my country. I love my friends and I never treated them differently or I was "understanding" with them, I love them point and I don't want anything or anyone to harm them, but till now I have seen many people treat them with hate and the friend in this manga is an oasis in my country. I understand that you are offended by my words but it wasn't my intention, nor did I said I don't understand what you mean, I only shared my point of view. And sorry if I say this, but when you say " if youre not gay then i think a lot of us would prefer if you kinda layed low or didnt say that stuff" you treat me, like some ass and is pretty discriminatory on your part. I just hope I was clear in explaining myself because english is not my native language and I don't want to offend anyone.
It IS a spectrum, so of course it's better for someone to not spit insults at you, but it's still not okay. Not in the long run. It's a start, yes, but as in this comic it's often seen as an okay place to be. That any type of respect and understanding is just something to be grateful for. But I feel bad for anyone who have to settle for these type of friends. Because they can't get true and full understanding. I say that because I'm blessed with a family and friends who all understand, respect and accept me fully. I wish that upon all of the non-straight people out there. They shouldn't have to feel any different for who they happen to love.
I completely agree with you and I too think the same, I said that it was okay only because in some country there isn't much understanding of the non-straight people, in my country for ex 80% of the people are straight and homophobes and among them to meet such a person is very rare, but don't get me wrong, I also hope that this situation will change in the future because gay or bisex people have the right to choose freely not only who they want to love but also the people who they want to be friends with Without settling for this kind of friend . I'm glad you are blessed with such family and friends, but in my country this is rare, I have sheltered 3 to 4 boys and girls friends of my daughter (not at same time) , who have run away from home because they're parents discovered that they were gay and I too have been insulted and mocked for this. I think it's simple to think the way you think if you live in a environment such as yours, but for people who live in the same type of country as mine the friend in this story is gold, sad but true...
That fucking friend of his is even worse than I thought. And after the last chapter I went on a rampage and wrote about exactly how shitty he is. He needs to get punished and punished hard because the punishment he already got just made him even worse???
Agreed
I mean surviving a car accident that almost left him paralyzed is horrible enough. like what more do you want as “punishment”? Death? Y’all should chill the fuck out.
Woah jumping the shark here. I meant punishment as in Muyeong telling him to fuck off or something. Something that will hit him where it fucking hurts so he will learn a fucking lesson.
Yeah dude chill out
Muyeong said he already rejected him, what more do you want?!
is this comment for me? bc honestly take a breather if you are feeling insanely triggered by muyeong’s friend. bc op’s comment is NOT it - shows a total lack of perspective and reason.
I clearly wrote what I want? For him to learn a lesson. Did he? No. So I want something to happen for him to learn a lesson. And "a total lack of perspective and reason" is clearly off here? The friend is totally out of line and even though he has been rejected he still feels entitled to Muyeong. It's disgusting. If someone I knew acted like that they would be out of my life before they even had time to finish the sentence. I've had to take care of someone after an accident, someone who lost the ability to do pretty much anything, so this is from personal experience that I speak.
If anyone here is lacking perspective it's you, based on how you instantly thought that punishment would have to mean death. You're projecting your own idea of what I meant onto me. So stop that and let me be disgusted with the friend in peace.
Bruh, you think you are making sense (memo: you are not lol regardless of how long your fucking essays are), but instead you’re totally coming across as a triggered lame ass loser. The character suffered a terrible accident, his COMPLETE life took a 180, he confessed to his friend, got REJECTED, and you still don’t think he got enough “punishment”?! pffft fuck off
Dude go eat ice cream
lol I got blocked I actually feel sorry for this person now.
If it really is this short, it wasn't very good. I don't really think enjoying being bottom is good character development ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just love to see that their relationship started without romantic feelings, and now they're both falling in love.
I hate it when you read manga and all you think is "just talk about it, just say something, it'll solve everything" and then chapter after chapter they don't talk and then finally, without any actual drama, they just talk it out and there I'm sat feeling frustrated because what the fuck stopped you from talking earlier?!? sometimes mangaka use really lame storytelling techinuques...
But apart from that I enjoyed this, so don't think I hated it. Also, I'm not into the panties kink, but dang the last sex scenes were divine. Guess talking is my kink.
"11.30" "we should sleep early tonight"
11.30 is a late night to me, when the fuck did i become this old??? （TДT)
I wonder too
Mood xD
Lol was gonna like but my phone doesn't think I am old so it voted down. I however feel the same as you. 11:30 is late for me after I had kids.
Junseok pisses me off so much. I've been in Muyeong's shoes when my dad had a stroke so I feel it personally. And you want to be there all the time and do everything you can to help in the tiniest ways. But to be demanding someone's attention and guilt them like that is the shittiest fucking thing ever, because the person is most certainly already feeling like they can't do enough. Don't ever try to fucking justify that kinda thing. Junseok is a shitty person. He was before the accident and he is even worse after. He feels entitled to Muyeong. He thinks he's the only one that can actually be close to Muyeong. And to then to lie about suicide only to confess?? He puts Muyeong in the worst situation ever because how can Muyeong trust him not to threaten with suicide if he turns him down??? I want to wish the worst on that character, but that already happened and he managed to get even worse instead of learning anything at all.
I agree with you so much. This is absolutely disgusting. I mean, it's an accomplishment to take a few steps, props to him, but lying about commiting suicide is absolutely the worst. I'd be totally furious if a friend does something like that to me òó
This story feels like it's from 2002 or something. And it feels like the same exact setting and story as a dozen of other yaoi from that time. So speak about being even more unoriginal as this is from 2013 lol
Uuuhh... this is my least favorite type of drama (￣Д ￣) In real life people work these kinda things out by talking and planning, but in comics they seem completely incapable of this.
Actually this does imitate real life. This is a conflict that sometimes puts a wedge between partners; it all depends on the individuals. Whether they’d be okay with their partner leaving, getting upset if their partner turns down an opportunity, or deciding to leave with their partner. There can be several outcomes.
Sometimes when it comes to the subject of leaving for another country, it can ultimately lead to a breakup — I think that’s why Hyunho turned down the offer because he and Gyul are still fresh in their relationship. But Gyul already has a bit of a complex and he gets easily irritated so...hm.