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True but if you think about it, he didn't really solve anything by being a punching bag. They still went after other people in their free time anyway. If you don't solve the root of the problem then the problem never gets solved, only ignored and delayed more than it should have ever been. Which only condones their behavior even more while uplifting their massive ego because of how much they are able to get away with (however I agree with the killing part) even tho they deserved it but that's just me. I'd also be sceptical if I were him tho because

Damn the emoji isn't supported on here

By sacrificing himself, Haruki did manage to reduce the number of victims significantly. It’s unrealistic to expect him to stop the bullies entirely when he obviously couldn’t fight back or fix a systemic issue alone. Haruki’s mentality was never about ‘fixing’ the bullies or the root problem, his actions don’t condone the bullies’ behavior. He never supported or justified what they were doing. But in his mind, taking the hits himself was the lesser evil. He knew he couldn’t fight back, so he became the shield to keep others from being hurt. For him, it probably felt like the only thing he could control and while it’s not perfect, it’s far better than just standing by and watching the situation get worse

Yes, I'm not saying he was necessarily in the wrong. The system is to blame, but he did in fact not lessen the victims completely as it was impossible for him to be around 24/7. He focused more on a temporarily resolve rather than fixing the main issue.

also yes, in a way he did condone their actions because he showed them what they were able to get away with without any consequences to their actions, which only enabled them to do more. It isn't his fault, he is the victim, but if he wanted to lessen the victims there was better options logically

In case you don't understand what condone means: to accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue

Even if that behavior was directed towards himself

I get his logic tho, again not blaming him. It was the failed system

Don’t worry I know your not blaming him I could tell from your comment

I’m pretty sure it’s canon that they only bullied him and not other bcs he was always there for them to bully. Also all this appart I can’t get what other option he really had ?? The teacher didn’t gaf the student didn’t gaf he obv couldn’t fight them and a girl tried to kill herself (or did I don’t remember) and the police didn’t do shit.

I think there is a difference between our definition lmaoo bcs in my language condone mean you take their side, excuse their behaviour and accept it. haruki inaction stems from fear and survival, not complicity

And I know it’s probably not your intention and that you didn’t mean it like that but saying Haruki condones the bullying because he doesn’t stop it leans into victim-blaming because it unfairly puts responsibility on him *a victim* rather than the bullies or the authority figures who failed to act. It implies that he’s partly at fault for not stopping the abuse, even though he lacks the power or resources to do so. Think of it like a person getting mugged in a neighborhood where the police don’t show up. If the victim gives up their wallet instead of fighting back, they’re not condoning the mugger’s actions. they’re trying to survive

My og comment was aimed at people who blame him for getting bullied just because he didn’t stand up to his abuser.

Yes. I don't remember if they got the law involved though. Only the teachers and school board didn't do anything, and I don't think any of them were from influencal families (unless I'm misremembering or forgotten. Correct me if I am wrong pls) If they did get the law involved I don't think they would be able to cover it up. However I'm unsure how exactly the law works on minors in the Korean law system. There is a penalty based on the crime committed but I've forgotten what exactly it was.

However there was a lot (and I mean a lot) of evidence of them doing illegal actions. Rape, SA, physical assault and more. Because the sexual assault was recorded and taken of minors, it was a criminal offense which would have had much more impact and repercussions. Especially because the victim had committed suicide. Although she was a background character, she didn't get any justice either. Resources were limited but not zero, although I know very well it's definitely not as one dimensional as it seems.

*Side note: I don't mean it in a way where he was condoning it on purpose. (It does not necessarily mean you 'take their side' although it can, another example of this is by simply being a bystander to a situation, allowing discriminatory actions to take place to yourself or others, etc). A long term ongoing situation differs from a sudden fight or flight robbery with stranger(s).
*I might go over this in another comment with an actual example but I am about to catch some sleep lol

He shouldn't be blamed for not stepping up. Not at all, I am just speaking from a multi dimensional standpoint that focuses on everything as a whole and the consequences it would have in the long term

It wasn’t explicitly mentioned in the storyline, but if someone committed suicide, the police would have to get involved. Since the bullies aren’t in prison or transferred to another school, I assumed nothing significant happened to them. I’m not exactly an expert on Japan lmaoo, but from what I’ve researched, it’s relatively common for the police to take little to no serious action and instead pass the case back to the school or family. In Japan, the juvenile justice system focuses more on rehabilitation than punishment. Even in cases of severe bullying, harsh penalties are rare, and cases are often redirected to family court instead of criminal court.
The bully family situation was never mentioned so we don’t know if there are higher up or no but but once again in Japan it common that schools downplay or discourage formal legal action to avoid negative publicity, which can result in police being pressured to step back or handle the issue unofficially.

HELP WHY DID I SAY KOREA

I meant Japan. I haven't come back to this series since I first binge read so for some reason my memory forgot it was a manga

Yes true, the story I don't think touched on this subject as to if the law did get involved at some point, to any extent, or if everything was blown under the radar. (which seems unlikely, but because they were a threat to almost everyone at the school, it was possible that no one involved the police out of fear for being outed as the one who 'snitched')

if we gonna do that then all hentai authors need to be investigated as well rape is normal aspect in hentai

Well yeah

I came to comment this wtf twins

That's fking scary

Is it…

Nah, he's going to feed off the milk instead...



I'll see myself out...

Exactly. Next season is coming out by next week or in 2 weeks, I am not ready. But I want the story to end for real.

I want the them to end actually

Same!! It’s coming out soon and hopefully it’s not 50+ chapters lmao.

Real real

Satosugu: the doomed yaoi

atleast they hot hehwfuerdijhfjuv2qjfkshvdjsck vbhfwdknsjx

Goge or the other guy’s ?

In the clurb we all love doomed queer story

both

who is this anger directed toward brother?

i believe they're talking about "shio"? the popular manga author that sachio congratulated

Neither of them had control over that situation, and both of them apologised. Half of Sachio's career is based on wanting to show Shio Motoki (Tomo) that he forgives him and feels equally responsible for it, as he knows that Shio never meant to do that to him. Calling him a rapist when he never wanted to do that to him, and clearly felt so bad about it is an odd way of looking at the situation. You're kinda missing the point of why Sachio wrote his manga.

Your way of thinking is the odd one. Like, you're excusing disgusting behavior just because someone felt bad about it, but that doesn’t erase what they actually did. The seme went through the same situations multiple times and didn’t act that way, so why should his feelings suddenly justify those actions?

Also, it’s messed up that the victim is made to feel responsible for their own sexual assault, That’s not just bad storytelling; it’s harmful messaging and you don’t seem to see that as a problem. Feeling bad doesn’t change the fact that he tried to rape, kill, and then blame the victim. It’s just wild to defend this kind of behavior. I get that it’s fictional and all, but that doesn’t mean morals should go out the window.

Everyone except the mc but especially the author of this story for Writing stories that include themes such as victim-blaming and glorification of abuse. Like even if it's not real, it can influences readers' perceptions. It can make people who’ve been through similar experiences feel guilty, ashamed, or confused about what happened to them. On the other hand, for people who fortunately haven’t dealt with these issues, it can make them less sensitive to how serious the behavior is or even make them think it’s okay. And also for Reinforcing Harmful Stereotypes

so true so real

literally , hes so selfish

This and the whole child thing. Like nigga tf is you talking about????

exactly omg , i would rather him just be with the owen with the yellow bandana