leafblower's Topics (96)

I agree. It was good up till that point chapter 37-38. What a let down or disappointment to the extent I’m not that excited for the adaptation. It is important to me that they didn’t throw the build up away, the whole ‘can’t have sex with another man’ changed and he was able to for a stranger, it was not right.

And I probably didn’t read it properly as I was half asleep, just wanted to skim through again, but Sugiki found out? That is more awful. I only know that the guy that liked Suzuki saw him and Norman doing it.

Did they do it again before performance? What chapter and page mentions Sugiki knowing? I don’t like this whole thing, I hope it isn’t adapted.

I hope author is just toying with us. Perhaps Suzuki will bottom as a “make up” since he hasn’t given that out to anyone . I don’t know what else will make me feel at ease besides him making it up with his butt.

I don’t remember much as I stopped reading for a while, but I believe they separated because neither could bottom for each other (?). This makes sense why Suzuki was easily having first time sex with another man—it’s no different from having sex with a woman (a hole is a hole saying), and he doesn’t want to bottom, so it’s easier for him to fuck Norman who is willing to bottom.

Yall the other mc also fucked around during this time with woman why yall this pressed

That’s true still tho, this guy’s actively fucking this other guy multiple times atp and they’re basically fuck buddies, and the other one hasn’t. Like, he actually has more of a relationship w the fuck buddy than how the other mc has a relationship w those two random women who aren’t characters. Theres significance and meaning to it that hurts more yknow? Not to say that the other mc was not wrong for fucking w those women, but ya

He didn’t see it but he did find out when he briefly spoke w Norman before the performance. It’s in the most recent chapter actually!

Right. Plus the other one was when he was drunk, no? He was taken advantage of and that sponsor guy of his basically watched him and didn’t stop it.

The other one has more significance because Suzuki never had sex with men before so for him to do it so casually with Norman blew me off. It’s not that the sex itself is wrong, but the timing and all…and how casual he was about that is not it.

I did re read it and yeah, I believe Norman was coming out of his room or whatever—the Suzuki room(?). Oh no..

I don’t believe I have seen it as explicitly as with Suzuki and Norman. The other time when Sugiki did it with women (most recent) was when drunk, and the sponsor guy didn’t stop or anything but watched! I believe he went with the sponsor for Suzuki’s sake.

And for my disappointment, it has more to do with how casual he was about doing it with a random guy after all that while Sugiki was in thar state. For Sugiki, he has always done it with women and Suzuki as well.

If Suzuki had sex with Norman before all that tension, I won’t care. It won’t make me disappointed. The whole reason they both separated was due to internalised homophobia, asumptuous but probably valid thoughts, and top/bottom role disagreement. Suzuki even admits that Sugiki changed his orientation, but he isn’t willing to bottom, nor is Sugiki.

At the end of the day, it’s just how I feel, and I agree with you that both of them slept with someone else. It’s just the sex are different, but I can also see why Suzuki slept with Norman: Suzuki did not have to bottom for Norman.

And neither Suzuki and Sugiki were wrong in sleeping with another, they were not together as far as I’m concerned. I never said they were wrong for it, it’s more of disappointment with the recent chapters. I may have been a bit harsh, but I guess I got too invested in their tension and build up till chapter 38..

Yeah… it’s the fact that they’re both in love with each other that it seems so unnecessary to create this drama and pain. I 100% agree

*III, MYSELF, ME, WOULDNNEVER DO U LIKE THIS. FUCK. FUCK. WHEN UR LOVE IS NOT RECIPROCATED BY THAT PLAYBOY ASS, IN DENIAL ASS, INDECISIVE ASS, LEECHING OFF UR TEACHINGS ASS… UR DANCE…. UR HEARTBREAK HINDERED UR PERFORMANCE MEANWHILE HIS CAREER IS RISING… I WOULD ROCKKKK HIS SHIT FOR UU.

I knew who you were ranting about immediately. I truly hope that part isn’t adapted, completely unnecessary and I didn’t think he would actually fuck Norman.

Personally I feel the only way I’ll feel better is: Suzuki will bottom as a “make up” since he hasn’t given that out to anyone . I don’t know what else will make me feel at ease besides him making it up with his butt.

I don’t remember much as I stopped reading for a while, but I believe they separated because neither could bottom for each other (?). This makes sense why Suzuki was easily having first time sex with another man—it’s no different from having sex with a woman (a hole is a hole saying), and he doesn’t want to bottom, so it’s easier for him to fuck Norman who is willing to bottom.

So he was a top with others? Chances are u are right.

Yes both of them were tops.

Do I hate her? No. But it's true that she's kinda stupid. "Why are some of y'all mad she blushing and not at the man who harass her?" Do you realize what you're saying? She is blushing over the guy who harass her. And people also hate her because of how the author have written her. She constantly contradict herself. She is just badly written over all. If anything this story just teaches you to go back to your abuser and glorify/romantize sexual assault/sexual coercion.The author herself told the fanbase to not acknowledge her as a victim which is even more crazy. Everyone of her stories is of victim going back to their abusers and yet the author does not want Layla to be seen as that. People hate her character over all not just because they hate women. Readers aren’t misogynists just because they dislike a female lead not every criticism of a woman character equals “hating women
"This is why real victim don't speak up" criticizing a badly written character isn't the same as silencing in real life victim. Every actions of the characters is being chose by the author and The author chose to romanticize harassment rape. Don't weaponize in real life victim turama at the expenses of a female lead that is a walking normalization of abuse,rape and harassment.

Gooner, I’m sorry that some of y’all feel called out but I SAID you guys CAN dislike her as a character, but instead, you guys dislike her as Layla, the person, does that make sense? I SAID you guys should criticize the author and you are, so it looks like we do agree on that.

The issue is, is that y’all criticize her character for being stupid for “blushing”, NOT because y’all think she should be written as more headstrong (but how tho? she knows her place in the villa as the gardener’s adopted daughter) or even that y’all wish she’d do smth against him (but she has no power… so how do y’all expect her to do that). These criticizations come from a place of wanting her to be some sort of cold-hearted badass main character, but that is not even realistic to her upbringing lmao.

But even in your comment is there not a word criticizing Matthias. Layla’s EVERY decision so far was to remain true to herself and find happiness with her loved ones. She has made very correct decision within her means and y’all still criticize every tiny move. Decisions to get tf AWAY from this fuck, decisions that were DENIED by this fuck behind the scenes.

So yes!!! I am mad that YALL are mad that she blushed. She was fucking caught off guard, embarrassed, by this fuckass man!! She did NOTHING wrong, she just blushed so why tf are y’all so pressed over that?? Blushing doesnt even mean she likes him! I know that the storyline will eventually end up with her liking him and I DESPISE this, but WHY BLAME HER when she IS in fact a victim being puppeted around by this abuser.

You say that she is a “walking normalization of abuse, rape, and harassment” but MATTHIAS IS THE ONE THAT IS.

So yes Gooner, ULTIMATELY, I criticize you all because y’all’s complaints DO innately come from a place of inner misogyny. Layla is a victim and y’all hate her for blushing (I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW STUPID THAT IS), while simultaneously are seemingly blind to Matthias orchestrating their forced proximity and thus creating more opportunities for him to cozy up to her and embarrass her and sneak creepy glances at her like the fucker he is.

I, for one, criticize the author who will illustrate a victim’s constant struggle with something out of control, and the inevitable end of them still being trapped within their oppressor’s trap.

100% agreement with you on this. It’s absolutely ridiculous how sometimes the victim gets more hate than the ACTUAL PERPETRATOR. This definitely ties into victim blaming. People need to understand (especially in irl situations) that there is no such thing as a “perfect” victim who acts exactly as they “should” when they are harmed. That isn’t a thing. Just like how there is no logic with abuse, there won’t be logic with the victim’s reaction in many cases.

I’m not saying that the characters are written well, but it honestly has some resemblance to reality

There isn't a word of criticism in my comment toward Mattias because I was not talking about him but Layla character and how she was written. She even admitted she likes him all along and multiple times in the novel she was jealous of Claudine when she was with Mattias. Her own creator doesn't want her to be seen as a victim. She has written to frame everything in a romantize way. Just because people criticize a badly written character or call her out. It's no misogyny? When you keep seeing a repeated pattern in the story and frustration is gonna come out. Criticism is not = victim blaming? Did people say she deserves it ? NO. Or did they mention her action and how the author writing choice has made her come as inconsistent and dumb.And just because some people call out her inconsistent character without mentioning Mattias automatically makes them a misogynist BFFR?

The readers in the comment section have not read the novel so it doesn’t make sense that they call her dumb for the very understandable decisions she’s made so far. They’re calling her dumb for blushing and that’s unprecedented.

It’s obvious that the story will be the fucker as endgame so I agree with the dislike of the story heading in that direction but with what’s happening so far, the anger towards Layla rn is so unnecessary. And idk why you’re taking the author’s words as the bible and idk how credible your words are. Plainly and blatantly, Layla is a victim.

Honestly, even with Layla feeling jealousy towards Claudine later on, that just shows how manipulative Matthias is and how sucky the author is. YOU bffr. Read my comments again bc what I’m saying is that they’re masking their victim blaming AS crititicism. It’s misdirected too. Read btwn the lines.

YES YES YES I love you.

Again I haven't seen anyone saying she deserves it. All I've seen is them calling her out and being frustrated with how she acts and the way she written. You see one criticism and throw the word victim blaming. Maybe learn to differentiate criticism that can come out harsh as they can have frustration to how the characters between assumption.

Ok you definitely didn’t ready my reply so goodbye lol

Read it all but I don't think you read and understand my point because you're so fixated on defending and grasping at straws when you see any criticism toward a character that you like. Deflecting and mentioning the ml when he was not brought up in the convo of why people may hate and come to dislike Layla and chose to throw the word victim blaming. So yes goodbye.

But you guys are victim blaming

But you guys are victim blaming and stupid yeah