Let's cut Huchiya some slack, I mean yeah he sounds like a coward with the "You like me right?" but after all the kissing and touching Mitsuo shouldnt be asking "why such a thing" either
No way in hell, c'mon! I can't forgive the seme, even if I do want them together he should at least suffer, beg, cry and crawl on his knees for a couple of chapters until I'm ready to accept him... that break up was awful
Well I read a lot of comments and I'm confused, why people read about a killer and a stalker gay relationship if they are gonna start saying "Sangwoo should go to jail" or start shipping Bum with someone else?
For those hatting Sangwoo and saying he is a psycho and Bum need to be saved: Sangwoo wasn't always such a psycho, if you look at his childhood memories he is also a "damaged" kid, for me the two of them are scared, Sangwoo is scared of getting close to people or loving them because he is afraid of being hurt, his father was a beast and hurt him and his mother "loved" him but she also gave him a huge scar, so I'm guessing that Bum actually made his way into Sangwoo's heart but Sangwoo keeps hurting him to keep himself safe (?) I dont know if you get what I mean, he keep controlling Bum and submitting him, Bum has to be "the victim" for Sangwoo to feel safe. And about Bum, he is the one that has no "cure", he doesnt care anymore about himself, or if he gets killed by Sangwoo, he is suicidal and the only thing keeping him alive is Sangwoo, and his desire to be loved or needed by Sangwoo in some way, I dont think that Bum can keep on living without him and he could be even more vicious than Sanwoo if the chance comes when he need to "protect" their bond.
Finally about the last ch 35, THAT WASNT RAPE lol, it can be rough sex but is not rape, the only thing that Bum hated was the fact that someone could see them, if you have read your share of Yaoi you must have seen tons of those types of bullys and sadics, and you dont go screeming "is rape and go to jail" you probably go "kyaaa" lol
In most cases, it wouldn't make sense to read a story about a serial killer and expect imprisonment. However in most stories police presence is removed entirely. It's as though death occurs without the police being aware of it. That's not the case with Killing Stalking. Seungbae isn't a background character anymore and although his efforts have failed so far there's still the possibility of him getting Sangwoo in prison. So wanting Sangwoo to go to jail isn't unreasonable for this story. Ships are meaningless so that's much of a discussing matter.
People have said this before and I agree with it. No matter how tragic Sangwoo's past was, it does not excuse his actions now. Torturing and killing people isn't okay because he had a sad past. The same can be said for Bum, stalking and killing Jieun is not okay because of Bum's past. Their past provides understanding on how they got to this point but that does not make their behavior any more acceptable. I'd like to know more about Sangwoo's past but that won't make me hate him any less.
Their dependency on each other is toxic. Sangwoo will continue to hurt Bum and Bum cares so little about himself that he'll allow Sangwoo to do it. With such severe mental problems they have, I think they'd do better apart than together.
I disagree with you on the last part. I've read a great deal of manga containing rape and found the scene more similar to those than fluffy yaoi "rape". Maybe people find the scene kinky and squealed with excitement, I don't care, but it's still rape.
I Agree
Idk if you're an idiot, horrible person, or both. Ch 35 was clearly rape. Bum was crying, screaming, and repeatedly saying no. What more evidence do you seriously need? How would you like it if someone shoved a dick up your ass with no lube and ripped your asshole/made it bleed? I bet you wouldn't enjoy it.
lol calm down, is hard to talk about "yaoi" contents with a non fujoshi reader, because clearly you still maintain your "morals" intact, so I'm guessing you just came here for a popular "dark story" but you cant bear it or enjoy it, that's why I'm confused, why people come to read something that they wont appreciate? I've seen a lot of more dark and heavy stories and let me tell you something in case you dont realise it... IT'S FICTION, so asking me "how would you like it..." is stupid. I can even support an incestuous relationship in a manga, that doesnt mean I would like to f*ck a relative, nor that I support real incest. Same with this, in "mangaland" that wasn't rape, Bum has been wishing to have Sangwoo since before the story started, the only thing he didnt like was the outdoor sex
It's possible to acknowledge Sangwoo raped Bum and still enjoy the manhwa.
Of course! See that's what I'm talking about, some people dont just flip out over a rape scene, you can also see it as a "progress" in their relationship, let's be more positive! lol
No ones flipping out because of the rape scene only because of the people defending it saying it's just "hard core sex" obviously not knowing you need consent for sex , it's not being "mainstream" maybe they were just looking for a you to read ,like me because they read most of the good ones
*YAOI*
And how tf do you be positive in a rape scene,
I've been reading yaoi for 4 years and just because I'm not okay with rape Fiction or nonfiction doesn't meant I would be a mainstreamer/normie and just because you've seen darker (because I have two) doesn't mean anything.
Why does it matter that bum wanted to have sex with sangwoo before he didn't want it with sangwoo then so it's RAPE , even if the only problem was outside ,bum said no many times yet sangwoo kept going , if that doesn't sound like rape to you there's something seriously wrong…
Yaoi's rape scene are just "cliche" to me, 7 of 10 times in Yaoi the relationship starts as what you can call "rape" or someone forcing themselves onto someone, if your "normal" in Yaoi is mutual and consensual sex, then you have a long way to go so, just keep reading until you "get it" lol After more than 10 years and reading everything I could find I even find "sweet" and "loving" a scene of a guy f*cking the other guy without arms (cause he cut them off of course) so If you wanna think there's something "wrong" with me you better use that "no arms" scene to judge me, rape in yaoi is plain stupid cliche, only a little girl would get outraged over it
I don't understand what you mean about being more positive...
The only thing that irks me is when people deny/defend the rape. We all know we're not reading a romance manga. I started reading this for the horror. Let's not sugar coat their relationship by labeling anything as consensual. Some yaoi do contain rape, not many but some. And not in the cliche "he raped me because he was overwhelmed with love" way. In a story about a dysfunctional relationship, calling the scene rape is fitting.
Well, you're a presumptuous one, aren't ya? If I didn't enjoy the story, I wouldn't have been reading it up to this point.
So, because I'm not okay with Sangwoo raping Bum, and have expressed my contempt for it, that somehow makes me unappreciative? Wtf? The Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite films of all time, even though one of the main characters gets gang raped in prison. Because I was particularly disgusted by that scene, does that somehow also make me unappreciative of the film? Lol. Your logic makes no sense.
I'm well aware that this manwha is a work of fiction, but that doesn't mean I can't have empathy for the characters. Sorry to break it to you, but "mangaland" isn't a real thing. It's just some bogus word you've created in an attempt to nullify any negative criticism you receive for supporting rape and probably other reprehensible things.
Oh, my bad. I didn't know that you created all the characters in the manwha and wrote it and therefor know what they are all feeling and thinking. Silly me. It's just that, when I see someone crying and repeatedly saying "no", I always assume it's rape. But what do I know, right? I'm just an normie with morals who doesn't live, eat, breathe yaoi.
Seriously though, you couldn't sound any more like a condescending jerk.
lol I really cant explain to you, you are talking like you cant see what the whole thing is about even thought we are at ch 35, this is not made to please people trying to see justice, sweet love and redemption, If you dont want to take my word for it, just KEEP READING and you will see it for yourself, this was made to "be different" and to please a particular kind of public, you might like the drama, the tragic backgroung stories, the action and suspense, but dont forget that this is NOT a "mistery" or "crime solving" much less "romance" manga, you are the kind of people that goes to watch a gore movie and then complains about "the blood" and wants all the bad guys to be "nice"
You're completely missing my point. I don't have a problem with the manwha at all. It has a lot of qualities I like and makes me anxious to see what will happen each week. The problem I have is with people like you who refuse to admit that Bum was raped when it is a blatant fact that he was. Obviously, I knew something like this might happen, but that doesn't mean I'm unfazed by it. It bothers me to see someone, fictional or not, be abused and mistreated like Bum has. I'm pretty sure most people are the same way.
How would you know whether or not this story is a mystery or crime drama? You're not Koogi and don't know which direction the manwha is gonna go, so stop acting like you are. And I never assumed this manwha would be romantic or fluffy in any way. I knew that from the way beginning which is what initially drew me to the story. I'm not some naive person who hopes for Sangwoo and Bum to be together and live happily ever after, so stop assuming that I am. I never liked Sangwoo anyway. This latest chapter just solidified my dislike of him even more.
To make myself very clear, I don't hate the manwha or am "unappreciative" of it as you say. I just don't like the fact that Bum was raped, and people are defending it. That is all. I don't have to enjoy everything that occurs in a story to enjoy the story itself. I understand that Sangwoo is a villain in the story, and he's going to do villainous things, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with his actions or be okay with them. It's ridiculous that, according to you, no one can express any negative feelings towards certain aspects of the manwha without hating it or being "unappreciative" of it.
Thank you , you pretty much typed what I felt
No problem (●'◡'●)ﾉ
I just hate that people are mad at others who don't enjoy rape scenes. It makes no sense. Most rapey mangas have garbage plots anyway.
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I dont know sometimes I see this kind of "art work" in manga sites and I cant believe people upload it, is it a real work of some unknown artist or just the drawings of an amateur playing jokes? I couldnt bear more than 2-3 pages
Ahhh, it's not a real manga. It's an indie webcomic I did because I really like Yaoi and Mystery genres. I'm sorry that it wasn't up to your tastes though :(
people said they liked the story, maybe you should find someone to help out with the art, or check out some tutorials, there are a couple great ones on youtube to learn the basics of drawing manga. You know people can hate me for being "rude" but I wont patronize you telling you "it was fine", if you settle for just "fine" you will never improve
Oh wow man :D You sound like a guy on a torrent site complaining about a CamRip XD
It's fine tho. I just came back to make that joke :P
So ok the both care about each other but that b*ch of a mother (with the help of the other stupid mother) caused all the misunderstandings between them... is like his mother doesnt want them to get "too close" but still force them together to control them... I really wanna kill her right now (╯°Д °)╯╧╧