we need a family tree of all the characters right now because i’m so fucking confused at this point
yet another banger hits the dust rip you will be missed
on webtoon there's 108 chapter and 13 extra
i swear to god dawg if this man is the ml i’ll lose my shit i hate him. so much. all i hear is bullshit i’m up to my mf ears in it with the pathetic excuses he keeps on spewing. first love?? miss me with that bullshit fr. there are way too many fallacies in that argument. even with the whole bewitchment thing, just previously his aid said that he wasn’t as affected by it because he didn’t have any amount of interest in her to be begin with, so if he really was in love with cecelia why the fuck would it affect him to the extent that he’d literally commit murder?? but oh the thought of protecting cecelia broke you from the bewitchment? no motherfucker, you aided in her banishment where was that supposed stronger feeling of protection then? and then that fucking knowing manipulation to enlist her to his cause and to make her another tool at his disposal after ruining her life?? awful. despicable. abhorrent, even. gtfu of my face if she forgives him i’ll riot. i swear i’ll take to the streets i really will.
this man is like a animal marking its territory i swear to god he be showing off on purpose next thing we know he’s gonna be pissing on her like a dog trying to claim a tree or a particularly green patch of grass goddamn
GIRL BYE
the plot is absolute trash but goddamn the "mama mia" when ml was beating up those thugs was so funny for no reason
'sister, i love you' STOP IT RIGHT NOW!! it’s a possibility noona is getting translated to sister that’s the only sane explanation i can think of…
it is exactly that fyi it is noona originally
GIRL JUST ASK HIM WHATS WRONG OR SUMN FUCKING HELL like i can’t believe she’d rather find info through underground channels than attempt to have an open dialogue like let him know you care if he’s okay atleast holy shit it’s frustrating
Ik! But the thing is, as she explained. Sometimes u just don't want to share what you're going through and prefer that nobody knows about it. It can be hard to open up and the fl have had an experience with that so she didn't want to impose and waited for when he's ready to tell her.
yeah and i get that but im saying like it doesn’t even need to be a confrontation on her part just like vocalize that she cares for him regardless of what’s going on because that’s not getting him to talk abt anything really it’s just providing some sort of support without pressure
i cannot remember the last time i cried this hard about a fictional story, but hoooh boy i was ugly sobbing the entire time. just. bawling my eyes out. poor annette my god why does she have to pay for the sins of her father when she didn’t do anything bro and istg i wish they would explain both perspectives of their past because so much going unsaid is like a major point of contention im losing my mind reading this. and i know it’s only going to get more heartbreaking with where it left off why hath god forsaken her
WHY must we always insist on making a female protagonist who explicitly states that she doesn’t want children in the beginning of the story pregnant to ‘show the joy of motherhood’ or whatever and imply that women will eventually be fine with having a child even if they didn’t want to have one goddamn its annoying can we please please let a female protagonist have another ending than barefoot and pregnant istg im begging. i’m on my knees. she was so cunt don’t do this to her!! she’s too cunt for her competence and intelligence to be disregarded like this
Especially since this female protagonist has a really good reason for wanting to avoid pregnancy. Apparently her own health isn't a good enough reason to not have kids, which is a message I am seriously side-eyeing.
I do agree w u and I would like to see a story where they follow through on that but I don’t necessarily think this is a bad progression? She’s only known the sadness of having children that were manipulated and didn’t love her so I feel like her being able to have a second chance at that would be great! Doesn’t she deserve the possibility of more happiness? Should she miss out on that chance because she is afraid? You miss 100% of the shots u don’t take. Also I would love to see a smaller version of her or Ian (づ￣ ³￣)づ I just feel like since it alr happened, I’m all for it. Also, I don’t think her health is a problem? She survived having 2 children already. And was her health always so bad? I thought her physique was more on the normal side, although I do think I remember Romeo saying something about her health, but it wasn’t rlly emphasized much so I don’t think it is rlly much of a problem. Anyways that’s just my opinion~
It was explicitly stated that she nearly died giving birth and her health tanked after. That was the major reason she gave for not wanting to get pregnant again.
Plus, a woman doesn't need children to be happy.
Oh I see. I must’ve missed that. She did seem like she was having a hard time after giving birth but I assumed she was fine after some time.
I never said nor do I believe that a woman needs to have children to be happy. I just feel like there is a possibility that she can find happiness in it. Having children is definitely not for everyone and no one should feel obligated to have any. (￣∇￣")
As a woman I don’t plan to have any children because I don’t want to bring them into this cruel and ruthless world but it does make me think about how happy it makes me when I see a baby’s or a child’s smile and happiness so knowing that I will be missing out on caring, smiling and singing to my own child and that saddens me at times, but I would hate to see them turn out like the kids tdy where they are disrespectful to their parents like it’s normal, but that mostly comes down to parenting. Anyways that’s just me. Childbirth is a possibility of happiness…to me.
I don't think this is supposed to be something that disregards her character. As much as she has a reason to not wish to have children, since her body is weak, this child as a sucessor to Ian works as a plot point. So I really think this is more about the intrigue-- so much so that this isn't the typical plot thrown in at the very end to "signal a happily ever after", this is fully meant to be explored in the narrative. And personally, I also see this as a way to make her see children in a new light, since the children she had with James didn't care for her and that is also one of the burdens she bears. As long as they treat her health with (narrative) care, I think this is a mostly fine thing to happen to her?? Like, her disregard for having children was never on account of personal opinion on not wanting to raise a kid. It was the same as the reason she did not want to have sex at first too, because of past trauma with James. I personally would have loced to just see a FL who just genuinely does not care nor want to have sex, and see that she finds a respectful husband, but I also understood this was never about not wanting sex. With Olivia's health, this becomes much trickier to navigate than that, but seeing as it was an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy (I mean you can only imagine what kind of contraceptives were around so it's not very surprising but...), it's not as if her or Ian suddenly had a change of heart regarding the issue.
Anyway! In short, I do see your point and agree with the fact the "if you don't want children now, you'll want them later" thing is tiring, but for Olivia I truly think this does not diminish her character-- at least, as of yet. I think atp it's a matter of seeing if the story will treat this with the care it deserves.
the face svet made when he called abuniru cute is genuinely so disturbing i wish he wasn’t the ml he gives creeper vibes bro is ugly and gives me the shivers
He born this way don't blame him, if you have to, blame the artist for creating such a creep face