I've never been gay raped in my whole gay life.
And usually gay rape is from men that claim to be straight.
I'm so tired of women normalizing rape in gay relationships, just cause we're men.
Like, I'm sorry most of you're cishetero relationships involve nonconsent, but don't project it onto us.
I believe this story is written by a man though. I don’t know about other bl but I don’t as a queer cis woman I don’t understand the obsession with non-consent and making the bottoms beg for the top to slow down or stop and the top ignoring them. Even if it’s not technically rape this happens in so many bls. Everytime I’ve asked a man to slow down or stop he’s listened so I really don’t get this :/ it ruins a lot of bls with genuinely good storylines
I'd be shocked if he's actually a male.
But I agree with everything else you've said.
I don't get non-consent fetishism, even cnc is disturbing.
He is in fact male he has a twitter named JAXX.
Even though I completely agree with the fact that many yaoi fetishize rape (and so many many more disturbing themes..) and it’s so bothersome.. But I don’t think that this fetishized the moment.. one of them was completely drugged and out of his head and the whole moment was pitiful and sad. It’s not portrayed as normal and Matt was drugged without even knowing it. So they were both victims. The whole story is supposed to be depicting heavy topics like these (of people getting drugged, killed etc..) so yeah I don’t think anything is depicted as romantic. I just hope that there will not be any su**ide or mcd.. it’s not uncommon in these stories.
It's not fetishism, it's what kind of relationship role model is imposed on women. Masses of women live with rape normalization and constant objectification, and the reason for that is men and their domination. Hetero relationships are built on romanticizing power imbalances, men rape women, so women relegate the experience to homosexual relationships. In reality though, rape is only normalized to the female side, so they give the fate of the humiliated to the one in the receiving position. If this surprises you, look at the world around you. At the mass art, the porn culture, the social imbalance.
So it's totally fine to project that onto gay men and romanticize it, instead of actually developing into a story about mental health, therapy, coping skills, self defense, and showing that bastard in prison?
Like, I'm failing to see your point.
I rarely see suicide, they usually end up dating saying they love their abuser.
Yeah honestly I genuinely think there was no need for Jin to get sexually assaulted in this story. Some people are using the excuse of plot but like there are so many other ways the reveal of Jin remembering Matthew. And even though it was never a fluffy store, these scenes were gratuitous and it felt like the author put them in to appeal to fetishist more than anything. Jin is a physically and mentally strong character so it didn’t even make sense for him to allow himself to be forcefully assaulted like this smh.
But in this case you fail to see that Matt was also a victim and he is not intentionally abusing Jin.. don’t paint him as an abuser out of nowhere..
and even if they end up together Matt is not an abuser, everything that he did was done when he was drugged against his will, he is not even a drug addict or alcoholic. He was forcefully drugged and a victim.
and I’ve read at least two mafia tropes that end with suicide and mcd. there was a really popular one that the cover had two guys on the beach at night. It was heartbreaking.
It’s a mafia trope it will have death and pain. If you can’t cope with depressing tropes then this isn’t for you.
There are books/movies that are thrillers, horror or disturbing and it’s not for everyone. If you don’t want to analyze the psychological aspects and depth of the characters it’s better to read softer stories. And it’s totally fine!
But this one is not just to spend your time enjoyably. Both main characters are going through a lot and have been victims. It has sex but the story is not just sex, it’s really heavy on plot and character development.
I'm currently having to deal with my own drama as my roommates liason.
The gf knows the bf is toxic, but the bf has made his whole stance abundantly obvious.
Yet th gf keeps trying to find stupid reasons to stay with him.
Like "well, he did this one nice thing last summer."
Girl, please, it's been a fuckin year now, AND he cheated!
Move on.
I see her same groveling behavior in Dan.
Like, Jaekyung is obviously a piece of shit.
From day one.
Dan only thinks he's in love because besides his grannie, this is the "nicest" anyone has treated him, with a side dish of orgasms
Dan doesn't love Jaekyung, he loves the idea of someone being kind to him.
ur roommate needs to read this manhwa asap
I can't imagine having such amazing art and story telling... to create a gay psychopath.
As if we don't get enough homophobia and shit.
I think everything was good until the last stories.
It was so slow paced... I think maybe I like adventure more...
He's not just a general that followed orders, he's a bastardly cruel man that takes pleasure in making others submit in fear. I apologize for my uncouth behavior in showing leniency to such a pathetic cur as him.
BABES PLZ THE MANHWA BIG WORDS IS ENOUGH
THESE BIG WORDS I CANT SHDBSJFIAN S
I binged this in one night, over 4hrs.
Never before have I seen a couple (besides Full Volume) with actual consent and enthusiasm with sex and continued sex.
This was actually wholesome and holesome.
I'm recommending this to my future children.
Lmao
I was so scared while deading 'cause im afraid there'll be some SA but thankfully
This is probably one of the only series and relationship where you should understand their dynamic of calling eachother dad/babe.
They were the only ones that loved eachother.
Sure, it's twisted, but I don't see y'all pointing out all their abuse and rape they've been forced to endure.
Their weird incest dynamic is the least worrisome problem, it's literally the only thing good they have going for eachother.
You guys need to get your priorities in check.
It's okay not to be okay. Right.
I will never get people saying they are toxic and whatnots. It's pure madness and psychological - far from toxic. And it feels just right and natural for them to be like this.
We can never judge how they are being portrayed. It's love.
The only toxic are those people who drive them on this madness. It's sad but exhilarating and fun.
I think it's because people are so hung-up on the incest part.
Which I get, but this is one of the only relationship dynamic where it's at least understandable, even if it's not embraced and tolerated.
Like, I feel for them.
I don't think I could have turned out any better.
I can't even imagine it.
If it weren't for my sis, I think I would've been a piece of shit serial killer.
Sure, we didn't fuck and stuff, but if not for her teaching me to be better... well let's just say I used to torture animals... and she changed me...
What if I didn't have her though...
I feel like all these judgemental people have lived a privilege life of safety and comfort.
Not everyone is so lucky.
They are not actually related so it's basically okay right. I will never get those people like you said.
Agree that there'll be no other way other than how this is portrayed. It fits, they fit. They are each other saviors.
Maybe they are disturbed how ML is too mental? Although fore it's natural.
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