Someone get both of these men antipsychotics and a hug, lol.
Heavy on the antipsychotics
Throughout this manhwa I've been a little overwhelmed at times by how genuinely dumb the MC is. Before you jump down my throat, it's okay that he's dumb. Some people are just dumb and honestly he feels realistically dumb.
He's like a little dumb puppy, too cute for his own good and too dumb to take care of himself. It's endearing and frustrating at the same time, but more endearing in this case.
Kudos to the author for portraying the dumb victim uke trope in such a likable way.
I don't claim to be a sleep expert. I'm not a doctor, I can't cure your insomnia.
But I think the ML would sleep better if he wasn't wearing a full formal outfit, button-up shirt with a full stiff embroidered collar, vest, dress pants, belts, and all the accessories. Someone get this poor man some pajamas.
Omfg THIS
Yes!! seriously how is implied that they snu snu until dawn but still have on clothes?? Lol
I made it to chapter 3 and I'm dropping this. The MC is so stupid I don't think he should be allowed outside in the rain because he'd stare at the sky with his mouth open and drown.
He wakes up and realizes he's in the josen times and he's living as a character that's falling out a favor with the emperor... So he decides to do a strip tease in front of the entire court. To just get completely naked in front of all of the men of the Court because that's going to win favor...
Most modern men wouldn't want their love interest to get naked in front of all of their friends and coworkers. If you go back in time to a time period that's far more conservative than now, why would you think getting naked in public would somehow win you points?
Like everyone else, I'm sad that this is so short. The art is beautiful. I'm so glad that it finally got a translation worthy of the characters.
He was 18 and she was 11 when they met. This is super weird. This is some grooming nonsense. I'll overlook it because it's such a common trope in Korean media and I'd have nothing to read if I refuse... But I'm going to point it out.
However! However, if the author pulls the trope where the super intelligence, super high EQ, incredibly perceptive, and politically astute female lead doesn't notice that the male lead has incredibly obvious feelings for her I'm going to drop this. This woman is way too smart not to notice when a man has such obvious feelings for her.
EXACTLYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
13 n 17, n grooming is when you are including sexual innuendos too from the start
Oh my God the things that pedophiles will say to defend themselves makes me so sick.
Don't even try, their brain is too rotted to comprehend such a simple thing. This moronic OP also thinks he raised her after all lmfao
questions on grooming and pedophilia are very complicated when it comes to these return/transmigration things and generally i am more critical of them however they did not interact romantically in any way until she was of age physically, she never displayed any childish/behaviour of her being a child since mentally she isnt one
also raised her???? are we reading the same thing? they interacted as colleagues in the same academy sometimes, thats literally all. he had more power than her not bc he was older but bc he was a duke and she was just the daughter of a knight
He was literally her guardian at the academy. He also constantly displayed that he was attracted to her when she was like 12 and he was 18. There are so many panels where he's obviously attracted to her. They do the little glow in the wide eyes and the like oh gasp she's so pretty faces that we all know. She was clearly groomed.
I wish at least one of the three main characters was a good person.
If prison is the name, good people are, unfortunately, not in the game.
I think Myeonggil is really good for a prisoner
Hes a gambler and addict but he takes care of his siblings, and seem to care about people even though hes been hurt by them,hes literally in there because he tried to save another guy and got stabbed for it
Gambling away your family's money and your siblings future makes you a bad person.
Addiction is an illness, I dont see him as a bad person, he made horrible choices for sure but we see he really wants to stop and be a good bro, he literally tried to cut off his hand so he wouldnt gamble anymore and stopped cuz he got caught by his sister
Stealing from your family makes you a bad person. There are a lot of ill people in the world, there are millions and millions and millions of ill people in the world, if those ill people steal from their family than they are bad people as well as ill people.
Having an illness does not make you incapable of being a bad person.
The only character who actually takes proper care of their sibling is Jingi. Myeongil steals, gambles, makes his family's life worse and doesn't stop even when they beg him to. He's been to jail multiple times and used his own kid brother to pass prison notes to dangerous people. Sure, he has basic human empathy, but nothing beyond that. The only reason he's actually thinking about being a good person and getting a job after prison is cause he got mega raped and then his rapists pitied his dumbass so much that they taught him how to read and write.
Youre putting words in my mouth, I havent said being ill makes you unable to be a bad person, I just pointed that it was an illness because you seem to talk very lightly about addiction, like he wants to ruin is family and all. He doesnt want to, he does it and its bad but its not out of malice. And we can just agree to disagree here because I wouldnt qualify him a bad person still
Someone can do bad things and not be a bad person while someone can do great things and not considered a good person thats all
I never spoke lightly about addiction and I never attributed malice to his actions.
You are what you do. The actions that you take make you who you are. If you do bad things then you are a bad person. Bad people can learn to be better, bad people can become good people. Redemption is a beautiful thing that happens every day.
But he's still very much a bad person at this point in the story. I fully believe he'll have a redemption arc, but at this point he's just considering changing and hasn't actually changed. He still gambling and stealing. He still abusing his siblings. He's still hurting his family.
He is a grown man with a job. Why is he not living in his own place? Why is his family threatening to throw him out of his place? Why is his family threatening to not let him live on his own? I know there's some cultural differences but he's still grown.
If he just went and got his own apartment they wouldn't be able to do that.
What an absolute bum. He wasn't dating material before this, but he is extra not dating material now.
I am endlessly frustrated by the Western setting of this manhwa. If you know anything about history Western kings were kept in check by their courts. There is no way that any Noble would support a king who constantly, maliciously, and irrationally attacked other noble families... Because the king who would do that to other nobles would do it to them.
There are real world examples of this. Look at Richard II and he didn't publicly humiliate his nobles, he just didn't pay enough attention to them.
I know it's fantasy, I know. I just hate that these authors always use Western historic settings and then don't understand how interesting and nuanced these settings were.
... I don't know why I'm complaining about this when I was reading another manhwa and the author had a police officer character say that they had Ohio surrounded. Ohio, a state that's about the same size as the entire country of South Korea, surrounded by the police with all the ways in and out covered by roadblocks lol.
I have to stop expecting any sort of understanding about the settings these stories are in.
Oh, I agree. Servants doing dogeza is also eye-rolling, lol.
However, to be fair, I don't think western novels of similar genre are any more accurate, haha.
Oh yeah, these historic Western fantasy manhwa always have servants that are just wilding out committing all sorts of abuse against the FL all while her family somehow doesn't care. In reality, any disrespect to your family member, especially from a servant, is an insult against your entire family.
Nobility are nothing without honor. In all nobility, Western and Eastern, even if you hate your family member you will still demand everyone treat them with honor because if they dishonor them they dishonor you. In this manhwa, both the king and the Grand Duke would be demanding all of these servants be put to death. It wouldn't even be a demand, they would just do it and everyone would agree they did the right thing.
I know the maid slapping trope is very unpopular but there wouldn't be any maid slapping. They would just be maid hangings.
I am so confused. What is even happening? What kind of end is that? Is this some sort of cultural thing that I don't understand because I'm an American?