can't wait for wren to die. If he loves Tristan so much why not just leave him alone and go kys somewhere in a ditch maybe┐(-。-)┌ atp I can't even bother caring about him anymore lol
Ethan cheated and Tristan didn't, he was sexually assaulted by his "father figure".
But at the end of chapter 81, it looks like Tristan cheated cuz he was naked with that bite mark and now Ethan is pissed lol, serves him right for cheating tho. There was no reason for Ethan to do that at all. The author could have written another way instead of having Ethan resorting to cheating but okay(￢_￢)..
Also, I just realized the amount of characters having sex with the kids they literally raised is way too high in this manhwa
Ethan didn't even cheat tho? He basically just sucked blood, and the dude was innapropriate, and then he did a singular kiss like
Like especially with the implication that he did it for Tristan so that Wren will be cured or something, I really don't think it counts as cheating
Ethan literally went to beg for blood for Tristan, not his fault he was forced to kiss the ex who liked his father. On the other hand Tristan and his father want to fuck really bad and both have some romantic feelings.
noone has romantic feelings wth
It is cheating to kiss someone when you’re in a relationship willingly even if you had to. Holy fucking shit
"Willingly" and "he had to" doesn't make sense in the same sentence
He in his OWN FREE WILL (he had the choice not to and just walk away) kissed his the guy, because his reasonings were he “had to in exchange for blood”.
A singular kiss kissing another guy is cheating and is was not part of their contract to get what he needed he just did that
EXACTLY like no he already got what he came for and then kissed him
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the kiss was completely unnecessary. He cheated, that's it.
you think Ethan was FORCED to kiss the ex after he was done taking the blood while Wren assaulting Tristan was consensual??????????? and you think Tristan is inlove with Wren too??? Sweetie, this is concerning or is this rage bait??? cuz theres no way
Ik people on this site hate it when u complain about translation but still....the translations..especially at ep 7. it was hard to read from the beginning but atp I can't understand a damn thing. what I understand from the comments is that the new character is a pedo??! I'm so done rn lol
Omggg I loved the first couple so much. they were really adorable frfr it was so satisfying to read about them.ヾ(☆▽☆)
but what annoyed me was that every woman in this manga lacked manners, boundaries and basic human respect, with such backwards views of womanhood. Wtf. Wym you go to a strip club and watch men get naked and dance sexually just like men do yet "it's different when we do it" huh??? the delusion.
that's like saying women only watch porn to study it while only men use it to get off. just stupid, isnt it.
It was so annoying watching them act like that with the mc.
I thought maybe it was supposed to be 'comedy', but even then I couldn't understand how the way they were acting was supposed to be funny.
Hi! Just sharing my thoughts you can disagree... so, They were his seniors so they were being dominant on him that's all it's quite normal in work environment..
And she meant to say that women don't objectify it doesn't matter how much nakedness is going on woman arousal doesn't work on visuals but rather actions... the environment and the person matters but for men it's not like that if the person is stripping that means they are Askin for it... which is wrong because they are just entertaining... strip club show and watching porn is a total different thing. They use the strip show to get away from their headache not to pick a guy n hookup with. Yet the point is, she said it without knowing that her junior is in love with a male, who was seducing him n the seme tried to get his attention so he did what he did (presented himself in a different way.. like focusing more on displaying his upper body)And SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. That's why she thought our uke is objectifying any stripper so she said him animal indirectly. i.e if a guy would walk topless women would not follow or catcall him but men would, soo this is what she meant. Hope it helps
Agree to disagree cuz firstly, I don't think any of what she said indicated that she was talking about objectifying the strippers in that conversation, so I think that's what you deduced from that not what she actually meant or maybe im wrong cuz I havent reread the story in a while lol. And harrasing people, belittling them and talking over them in a work environment is never normal regardless, I dont know why you think that. Also, even if thats what she meant, what you said still isn't true. Women do objectify people in the sex work industry, maybe not as much as men.
Also, some women do get aroused sexually from visual stimulus, example would be a women looking at her partner body and getting turn on by it. As a women, I know for sure that I do react to sexual visual images. Generalizing women or anyone like this is just wrong and makes no sense, just cuz something is more common doesn't mean the uncommon is non-existent. Hope this helps cuz this view of womanhood and generalizing womens experiences, capabilities, their behaviors; harmful or not, and their sexual arousal is still abnormal. (sorry if this makes no sense I barely know how to write english lol(｡-ω-))
Yes I agree with you on disagreeing also your English is totally clear I got what you were explaining :)
And in no means I wanted to convey that it's normal belittling people in real, my bad- I should be more clear so here we, go I thought it's quite normal in manga work place situation to appear this kinda dominant. Because as we all "Charlie Chaplin" there they show this gestural comedy. They also depict the dark side of industrialism yet in a comic way which invokes laughter. So in that sense it's normal they were comic fictional characters who were showing exaggerated moves to inforce laughter. Which is not okay in work space.
And I would stick to my point cause first sexworkers are doing their job if u won't get turned on they would get sad like the seme, whn he feels rejected by uke. Secondly you getting turned on by your partner is given cuz if not, the same thing would happen they would feel rejected. Objectifying happens whn you're thinkin' that the person for whom you're aroused is somehow responsible to satisfy you. You can get turned on by sexworkers and your partner yet you should ask for concent insted of just going for it thinking that they are asking for it or they want to do it or they're trying to turn you on. Giving the benifit of the doubt to the other is whole gist of what I'm saying. Also whn you say MAYBE it proves my whole point so I would say I'm certain women don't objectify ppl as much as men do. Hence, 'I think' 'I related' more with the words of the character that men do tend to get animalistic whn it comes to nudity cuz not everyone in Strip club or Bar are there to have hookup, some are their to experience the atmosphere solely. Thanks for giving your time.
Even tho I knew this was gonna be bad, against by better judgment, I still read the first chapter.
In my head, I was like-"It cant be that bad,right?┐(-。-;)┌-".
.....It wasΣ(￣ロ￣lll).
why is it that the people on this site give high ratings to THE WORST mangas/manhwa's on here???? wtf is up with yall
This story was so cuteee<333
This feels like such a good palate cleaner from all the bad stories I've just read. loved it
The Best(& probably the only) neurodivergent couple in BL history(´TωT`)
Agrue with the wall.
I love their dynamic so much and the side characters were amazing as well. I love how everyone got their happy ending too lol. 10/10.
"do you copy" (ﾟДﾟ≡ﾟДﾟ)ﾞ?
FYM "DO YOU COPY?"????????(ノ｀Д´)ノ彡┻━┻
there's no reason for him to be doing that unless it's to contact the damn uncle....so...he's betraying Tristan then.
he better get that death he so desperately wished for but this time he dies like the monster he is and alongside the uncle too.
let them both rot in hell
I absolutely love this story, it was so good.
I loved all the characters, Bawoo and Duan were my favs, they were so funny. But there's one thing I wanna say about Bawoo, I think he's toxic for Hoon. At first I thought that him and Hoon's relationship was cute and kinda funny despite the misunderstandings but after reading everything,
its obviously that it's being portrayed as cute and healthy by the end but it's not really , it's borderline toxic. It's almost painful to watch Hoon try so hard for someone that physically & verbally insults him and never communicates properly with him then he keeps telling himself that he deserves it cuz "it's not even half of Bawoo's pain from back then" or sumn like that like huh?? ....It's made like Hoon is the one that horribly wronged him in some disturbing way even tho Bawoo is partly at fault too....If Bawoo REALLY liked Hoon, he wouldn't let this go on; especially not for that long. Plus we never got to see Bawoo reassure Hoon and actually communicate with him, we just see that they end up dating. idk I can't see their relationship as anything but toxic anymore. Everyone else's relationship was so interesting and had SOO much depth, there was so much change and it was fun to read.
That was an interesting point. I definitely like the other couples more (maybe that played a part in it). Though, I would have liked to see more of them after getting together to actually see how they are with communication.
It feels like Bawoo is getting his feelings validated now that Hoon knows what it feels liking someone, and I don’t think that’s very wrong but it would be toxic if he kept it up for long. I could pass it off as immaturity of youth, but it is an issue if it goes further in their relationship.
THANK YOU, YOU GET IT!!!
So sorry that this is such a late reply but i really wanna answer some of the things you said here.
And this might be coming here as Bawoo is my favourite so forgive me if it sounds a bit biased (︶︿︶)＝凸.
While I do agree with you on most part that it's stupid for Bawoo to think Hoon deserves to grovel because he suffered so much back then.
But I really don't think Bawoo is at much fault here, Hoon is really just fucking dense. In one of the chapters (ch 29 i believe) Hoon mentions how he choose music basically for Bawoo and even Siwon recognises that Hoon is basically in love with Bawoo.
Bawoo had mentioned it before that he liked Hoon but as always he was too dense to get it.
Even in another chapter Daun can guess that Baawo likes Hoon. Though he is rather perceptive but I don't think you need to be a genius to figure it out.
About the part of letting go, I feel like that's rooted to Bawoo's character. He is used to letting things go, we see how he grows up with so much younger siblings that he has to give up a lot of his childhood for them, especially growing up poor. He even has to give up the guitar something which he really likes, just for his family. So when provided with the opportunity of explaining to Hoon that he liked him in a way more than friends did and risk losing him or just letting it go and turn back to normal. Bawoo naturally chose the latter.
And when Hoon tried to contact him after moving away Bawoo most definitely ignored him because he wanted to give up on liking Hoon and what's better to ignore the said persons existence?
At the end of the day Bawoo was just a kid forced to act like an adult and role model.
That being said I do wish we were given some more side stories about them to see how their relationship is after everything and how they have progressed. I was a little disappointed as they were my fav that they mainly just had stories about their past.