So Qi Wang Zhi (seme) is an alpha who was raised as a girl during his childhood?
Then when he disguised himself as black haired guy to meet Sheng, he turned himself into an omega? Or did he meet him as an Alpha?
Present day he is an Alpha, so he turned himself into an Alpha again?
Or was he an omega at birth and changed himself into an Alpha?
Or he never changed his secondary gender and met Sheng (while disguised as dark haired guy) as an alpha.
Are secondary genders assigned at birth in this manhua or at a certain age? Could he have met Sheng (as dark haired guy) when he was not assigned a secondary gender, and then he became an Alpha?
It was definitely confusing lol.
But I think white haired dude met black haired mc in a disguise when he hadn't presented his secondary gender yet. Hence the conversation showing our mc promising to marry him after he finishes changing. Because at that point they were both hoping he'd be an omega.
I wish this was clarified in the series (Sigh). I saw the raws (google translated) and it gets even more confusing (?_?)
I wish I understood this. Read the whole thing but still some parts make no sense.
If you’ve read the previous story connected to this, it might clear up your confusion.
I know the gist of that work. I am clear on that part (past). What I am confused about is the later part of this manhwa. Some of the interactions make no sense.
This bl is more on flashbacks, that's why its kinda confusingly, the author also didn't specify or do any warnings, it made it more confusing. But if you think deep on it and read the other stories it be more understandable. And their thoughts also are more on riddle, while reading this, I was also confused
(?_?)
Agreed
The one thing I'm sure of is if they have a side story, I wouldn't bother reading it
After reading this again, I can say it is definitely not because I did not read the other manga. Most of the explanation required is already provided in this in the form of flashbacks.
I think the main issue was the long hiatus for me. It became very confusing to keep track of the story. After re-reading, I can make sense of a lot of stuff I was confused about before.
But I still felt that the dialogs did not make sense in some scenes. Like who is thinking/talking about who and such.
Truly respect teachers like these 2, who not only provide good academic education but also provide moral support to their students.
Love that Yanagi who is an omega and understands the difficultly of being an omega in a world where discrimination is rampant, reassures his student that he will support her. And Asanaga talks about ways to deal with alpha ruts and supporting them. Both encourage their students to break the barriers of sexes and see each other for who they are.
This encouraged the other teachers to pitch in as well.
Wonderful read. Breath of fresh air after reading a lot of $hi!t lately.
Also, taller uke and shorter seme, and the taller one did not turn out to be light haired. Averted Light haired uke stereotype. Awesome.
I don't quite understand the inner workings of the aunt though. Like why would you neglect a child, when you feel that you were responsible for his parent's death.
Ehehe right? ( ∩ˇ ᴗ ˇ∩)♡
About Chinatsu-san,
I know a thing or two about guilt. I do.
And I really see her and feel her…
Guilt makes you do seriously counterproductive things. It’s a difficult cycle of
feel guilty > do wrong things > feel guiltier > fucking up again cause you’re so consumed by the guilt you can’t see what’s in front of you > fucking up > feeling guiltier > guiltier > guiltier until it’s just become its own living and breathing thing, like a curse on your shoulder lol.
Hmm. I really feel her…
And basically… you just don’t KNOW how to deal with this ugly monstrous glooping thing stuck to you, you know…
You’re really fucking exhausted all the time
And confused. Oh, boy. Confused. Probably the most torturous part of it.
Like you really want to do the right things…
But the longer this cycle continues and the stronger this ouroboros gets,
You just stop being the doer at some point.
It starts doing everything. And of course you blame yourself for it —
More blame than anyone else could put on you.
And it’s because she was confused that everyone around her was confused.
Tsuguya, who got the kind of response which he did,
His struggles became way too much to handle for someone of his age, no matter a child first and an adult later, because the aunt was actually confused, but nobody knew that.
So yeah, confusion’s definitely got the dirtiest hands here.
And you’re saved by clarity.
You’re saved by clarity. (You: the aunt, the guilt’s host)
I hope that cleared something up.
I really like the characters, love the way they’re built for real.
Real, smart, deep, dynamic… beautiful, lovely…
Different from each other, and yet complimenting each other so well that it really wraps the story up in valuable parchment… haha.
Bless them.
Makes sense... but what an unproductive way of dealing with anything..
Inner Interactions of different parts of mind is hilarious (lol). Eunsung's Conscience burying his Instinct (≧∀≦). And P.E.P. I am dead (lol). I can't laugh anymore.
Awesome Seme. The rare green flag type.
Trigger Warning: Child Rape, Child Prostitution, Explicit Depiction of Child Rape, Explicit Depiction of Child Sexual Torture, Incest Child Rape, Disgusting Father, Disgusting Brother
His father sold him into prostitution as a child. Father should be burned alive. Just a disgusting human being. I feel so sorry for Kei. He had to deal with a a lot. He is mentally very disturbed. No child should go through this.
This manga did mess me up. The thought process of the child going through this, not understanding why this is happening to him. Going as far as thinking that the adults were jailed but he was not just because he is a child is stupid. Really heart wrenching. Have to say this part of the portrayal is well written. But I definitely could have done without the explicit child rape scenes (PLAIN DISGUSTING). The author even drew explicit sexual torture scenes regarding the child. DISGUSTING. I can't say how disgusting I feel regarding this.
Another issue I have with this manga..
If the father wanted money, then why did he just prostitute the light haired guy. Kei has a brother too, why wasn't he (Disclaimer: I am not saying he should have been. please read on). I feel this is just because of Kei's unique light haired and eyes. Just some twisted case of racial domination.
Just found out that the brother, dad or grandparent also raped him. DISGUSTING Author. Racial Domination. Has something against light haired people.
This seriously messed me up. Wish I did not read this. WISH THERE WAS SOME TRIGGER WARNING FOR THIS.. Whenever I am reminded of this and the disgust reaches a certain level I come here to rant about it.
Are you fucking delusional lol
He was sold 'cause he reminded everyone around him of his mother that abandoned them all. His brother wasn't sold 'cause he wasn't attractive enough. Freckles aren't really seen as "beautiful" and tbh he's got the face of a pig even as a kid.
To address what you said about how the artist depicted the SA scenes of Kei as a kid; that was the artist's choice to drive a deeper emotional response in readers. Not everything is gonna just be "implied" when it comes to series with more adult/mature themes. And let's be fucking honest here, ya'll would bitch even if it wasn't depicted visually at all 'cause "anyone who draws fictional cartoon kids in a bad situation is a disgusting pedo" is a common thought process with you lot.
Now either nut up or shut up.
First of, not everyone who is sold into prostitution is glaringly attractive or beautiful. If the parents can sell one they can sell the other as well. Get a reality check.
So you are saying just knowing a child (who is not supposed to have anything to do with sexual situations) is repeatedly r@ped is not enough to disgust you. You need someone to show that "RAPE" and "SEXUAL TORTURE" on a CHILD explicitly for you to understand it's wrong? WOW...
There is a thing called child r@pe/sexual fetishism. This is basically it. Plain and simple.
And coming to your first sentence.. I don't think I'm as delusional as you are, that I can't identify problematic stuff and condemn it.
Also, ever heard of polite speech?
Additionally, keeping moral conduct aside, this is actually illegal in lot of countries since this is basically child p0rn. I don't understand how Japan actually allows these types of content to be published without any consequences.
clock that forreal !!!
OP (forreal), I love you. You are smarter and more coherent than 99% of wannabe incel manga readers that I've seen lurking around on this website. Tysm for these warnings, was planning to read bc the concept was interesting but the pornographic way that child rape is depicted in Japanese manga is acc vomit inducing for me as a victim of CSA, who has been raped by their fam members.
Anyone who is fighting against this person, you are 1. A degenerate 2. Either a pedophile or maybe a delusional person who has convinced themselves that Japan's romanticization and blatant visual depictions of child rape is alright bc atleast they're talking about the pain of going thru this. Here is the thing (as a victim) I can tell you that you don't need to show what happens to us by our family members to tell ppl that the pain is there and tangible, you can just show the victim's reactions post-rape (i.e. like they do in Korean manhwas - Paljae for example) or the pain/disgust/shame that they feel for years to come instead of blatantly drawing out child p*rn, this kinda shit is made for pedophiles and only contributes to Japan's huge problem with CSA.
And before you come at me w tht fiction bs I want to remind you tht ur ass would be arrested if these mangas tht have blatant CSA/visual depictions of child p*rn were found in your hard drive and you lived in the US or Canada.
Ok, I went thru your profile bc u seemed to be a good person and I'm sorry to report tht I was mistaken, you seem to be exactly like 99% degenerate manga readers who condone child rape being depicted as long as it's towards black haired ppl which is f*cking bizarre. I guess you're fine looking at kids getting raped as long as it's kids with black hair instead of white hair. No I don't want your stupid ass explainations, you are a disgusting excuse of a human being. How can you be able to write all this shit and ask for the rape of other kids being shown in manga. I would even understand all tht race fetish wtv bs u have going on. But condoning and actively asking for CSA manga distribution of kids with any type of hair color/skin color/eye color or anything is some disgusting shit. You literally asked to be shown pictures/manga explicitly depicting rape of children with black hair.
As a victim of child rape, fuck you too. Child rape is never okay to be shown in any type of media. Thanks for warnings/tags (glad I didn't read this manga and never asked for rape depictions of any child charas w any type of hair color) ig but I'm sorry to say tht u r like the person u r fighting against
This is a reply to 2delete. Since I am not able to reply to them, I am just going to put a clarification for the comments/accusations.
Sorry if that's how you took it, but I don't understand where I asked for kids to be raped?
"You literally asked to be shown pictures/manga explicitly depicting rape of children with black hair.". - Where exactly? Where did I ask that explicit pictures of child rape be shown? Asking why it's done only for light haired characters and not for dark haired characters doesn't equate it to me asking for explicit child rape pictures or manga. Or even asking for more works with CSA or SA. I did say that the disgusting author wrote explicit child rape in this very Topic?
There was 1 thread I had started to collect data (and also to add trigger warnings) about black haired seme characters being SA. This is because I generally do not read most works with black haired seme. I read the reverse and already know and also tagged most works with Trigger Warnings.
"But condoning and actively asking for CSA manga distribution of kids with any type of hair color/skin color/eye color or anything is some disgusting shit." - I seriously don't understand where you got the idea of me asking for it to be distributed? I was asking for references where it is already present. Nothing else.
There are literally many comments from me where I mentioned that I had hoped that child rape was not part of the story. ??
I am not fighting against anyone related to CSA. I condemn the act. Period. I don't even think that's a point to fight anyone against. I put Trigger Warnings because I personally get triggered and hope that others had put it.
The thing I have a tiff with is the hair related stereotype.
It could be because I combine 2 or 3 points in the same comment that you might have got that perception. I want to condemn child rape but I also want to point out the other problematic tropes. I am quite literal in my thought process and am unable to "Read (or even write) between the lines". When I ask why authors only do this to characters of certain hair color, that's all I am asking. I am not asking for the authors to produce more works with CSA.
For me rape is rape. And Child rape is the worst kind of atrocity there is.
Above all I am sorry that it happened to you.
Yup. Stupid light haired uke stereotype strikes again.
Best couple in all of the BL I read - Shen Yuan and System. (rofl) They have the best chemistry and are an iconic comedic duo.
Shen Yuan and Airplane; Shen Yuan and Liu Qingge are also good comedic duos. Shen Yuan himself is hilarious. Oh... and don't forget Tianlang-Jun.
Everything else.. Can we call it reverse grooming. I don't know ╮(￣▽￣)╭
brooo T^T more like Shen yuan x beard
My struggles with mangago continue. Using an emoticon copied from google removed all the text after it.. Had to edit the OP and now the responses are gone. They will be back once I post this reply. （￣へ￣）
That too ヘ( ^o^)ノ but only after System
Okay BUT Shen yuan never grommed anyone and never felt any romantic feelings for bin-bing even when he was already the jushang. ( I just want to clarify that ) umm.. anyway, do you read Original Luo Binghe x Shen jiu fanfic?
You forgot Shen Yuan x Mantou T^T
No No. I meant reverse grooming. As in Shen Yuan had an aversion to being with Luo Binghe, but somehow suddenly was ok with being with him. I meant Luo Binghe groomed him. I don't know if that's (reverse grooming) a thing though.
Yeah I got that, but I just wanna say that the papa happened when BOTH of them are legal adults, and I'm also not sure if is a thing" reverse grooming" But Shen yuan was forced to do it? Anyway the extras showed that they do love each other RIGHT! ( come on agree with me here T^T)
*I'm also not sure if " reverse grooming" is a thing*
Not sure which part this refers to (づ •. •)?
Have you read the extra? When the original BingBing form PIDW crossed SVSSS, lowkey sad for BingBing T^T
Yeah.. That's the thing. He is shown to be in love in extras.. but how? Why? Hence I used reverse grooming.. Even if it's not a thing.. I am going to patent it now :P
He chokes on a mantou while he was cursing airplane bro and tadaaaa he died
Yeah. I did.. It was interesting to say the least :)
Oh now I get it. Agree with you on this as well ヘ( ^o^)ノ
I'm not sure if you have an acount in A03, but this is a good fanfic of the og Lou Binghe and Shen jiu, I actually though that this might be MXTX herself lol: http://archiveofourown.org/works/17724134.
I actually don't know what to say when someone bring this up, like- of course my answer is "Yeahhh Shen yuan loved BingBing" then reassure myself (Yes, of course)
Nah. I don't have an account. Will try to check it out though. Thanks for the recommendation :)
Naurr you can't view the work without an account here (if you have time) I downloaded it for offline reading purposes (My data is slow ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LFSfcvyJFoIEY2uZnCeKojh-U4ar4iAt/view?usp=sharing (gdrive)
I would have appreciated a bit more story development in this part. Like how did he do a 180 and such. Not saying this doesn't happen but I find it difficult to accept it as it is now ╥﹏╥ But it is what it is ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I don't think she is making any more edits on this.
Thanks for sharing. Will check it out when I have time :)
what's that? oh I suddenly cannot read T^T ( I'm joking, but let's not talk about that :) )
Ha Ha Ha. Sure :)
as we know... shen yuan is a very unreliable narrator, of course he wasn't 100% honest whilst telling us his story. it only seems like a 180 because of how he described everything, but honestly, if you read the novel and noticed how the other characters seem to put two and two together while shen yuan himself isnt even aware of his own feelings, if it were any other person telling the story, it'd be obvious that he liked our bingbing
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Trigger Warning - Child Rape, Child Abuse, Pedophilia by Father, Light Haired Seme Rape
No amount of torture is enough for these kinds of disgusting fathers.. I don't understand how they are allowed to have children.
Another seme raped as a child turns out to be light haired. Disgusting man. This hardly is ever depicted with dark haired semes. I don't understand why authors feel the need to do this to light haired people. Some kind of twisted racial domination thing. Disgusting
Trigger Warning - Child Rape, Child Prostitution, Child Abuse
Jean talking so calmly about his abuse.. These things really mess up a child. No amount of punishment is enough for these disgusting aggressors..
Also, regarding STR Studio version, they keep using the word catamite. I looked up the meaning. How is this word apt for him? Didn't Jean/Gin say he was never with a man. Am I missing something? Or is it just bad translation.
Thanks for the question, as far as we understand, the original term 미동 (美童） refers to beautiful young boys who serve both men and women. We thought of toyboy first, but in the end we took heavy reference of the Chinese translation which used 变董 (Catamite) and we were not careful with out notes throughout the chapters for the difference in meaning between these words. We will update it later :)
Theres also sexual abuse of him as an adult, its sad to see
Thanks for the clarification :)
True :(
Trigger Warning - Child Abuse
Spoilers ahead
Loved the novel. This has a very unique and interesting plot.
Che Che went through a lot and is going through a lot. Jiang Yao helps him through that. He might come of as a playboy and may be he is for some part, but he is a very devoted, and responsible person. Absolute green flag.
Though I still cannot understand not letting the parents of patient (who is a minor) know about the child's health condition due to law? Which civilization is actually thinking that the children (10 year old) can make decisions for themselves? This is very illogical.