I'm glad that Kamijou was mature about it and did reflect on his actions. He was a bit borderline manipulative, so yeah.
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While some people can say that we were expected to know that the school is fucked up and to get over it, they really should get that our outrage is an expression of what we think is right being torched in front of our eyes. We have a right to be able to express that and then hope for the best. The story is great, but I think all the perpetrators and accomplices should still burn in hellfire. That freshman deserves justice for doing the right thing, even if he only exposed the Caste Game when he was a target.
In other words Kusakabe: GO SIK ON THEM! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
J, you are perhaps one of the biggest assholes I have ever met. I should pray to the White Witch that you ultimately become gay and have sex with the priest you captured.
Woah... But I do hope that J becomes gay... This is bad(￣∇￣")
I-I'm half ashamed that I was so into the idea of J becoming gay because well. My priorities are confused.
So minus the fact that the story is loosely based off of Christian theology, my biggest question is whether or not the story depicts God and Jesus as the same person or not. Because I distinctly remember that Christianity had a big hubaloo during the late Roman Empire whether or not God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were the same thing. Most of the story falls within acceptable fictional storytelling and imagination, but that scene of God/Jesus was a bit explicit in defining the theology behind the work.
Anyway, JesusxJudas is a bit of a pleasant surprise for me.(づ￣ ³￣)づ
I dunno. Gee but i'm one of those passive christian.. well more likely a agnostic but yep Due to my origin a country which is christian. from culture to family i am acquainted with religious belief. The debate is still on going. Many believed that god and jesus are the same as well as the holy spirit. The holy trinity (the father, the son and the holy spirit) they are one yet separate in entity. More like the governing, the purity and the power (this is my own conclusion ok) the governing is the father. the lord creates, mould, dictates and govern everything (Omnipotence, omniscient & omnipresent) the son is the purity for as purity can be defined as innocence, patience, understanding, compassion,sympathy and love. The power is where each and everyone of us are connected. The source of our strength and the will to live. For each of us borrowed this life from god. our spirits are connected to the holy spirit. The very place i believed we borrowed our lives.
For goodness sake people, just say "I love you" already!?!?!?
haha..if they do say it already..there's nothing for us to look forward to anymore..*sigh*..can't wait for the next chpter..how long are we gonna wait again?
Im sorry!! I meant to press the + button but accidentally pressed the dislike button... really sorryyy!! Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
The setting was good for the first story, but the fact the young master literally was being walked all over was really a big turn off for me. Yeah, life is different especially when your very lifestyle is changed, but he just caved in to the pressure. Like, he gets sexually harassed (technically abused, as it did involve explicitly unwanted ejaculation). And all he does is just warm up to the same people who have been treating him like shit just because of his birth. It just gives the feeling that he lost his sense of self and became a dumb person who is easily subjected by the malicious acts of others.
Seriously...go figure. (〜￣△￣)〜
Um so victims have to take responsibility for being victimized and you wonder why bullshit like this happens all the time? Wow, very circular logic you're using there. Ktbn.
Ahah, my point wasn't victim-blaming, but bad story writing.
Being an older brother in college myself, I have to say that his conduct regarding his younger brother was very poor to say the least. Working full time and all, yeah it is stressful and sometimes you need to let it out. Having to leave behind friends, miss all the opportunities, and take care of someone is very tiring and is going to be a cause for resentment. But not apologizing nor acting as an caring older brother to your siblings is not really acceptable either.
People aren't animals that just require food, water and shelter just to be okay. There are some social roles that are needed to be played as well. Missing people in one's life means that the remainder have a greater responsibility to pick up where others left off.
It sounds self-righteous and all, but it is the right thing to do and is something I would try my best to follow. I like my brother very much, so I would try to least keep him happy or content. I don't want him to hate me, or even worse be scared of me.
You may have passed as caretaker, but you have failed as family.
Well..I agree with Lei..
I completely agree, but I think that there needs to be a reminder that things like lack of communication does happen in real life. Not apologizing may just be a part of how their family functions, or he may not know how to apologize to his younger brother and not apologizing in the earlier stage led to not apologizing at all because the moment was missed. That Tatsuya cleared up the misunderstanding is not an uncommon thing in that sort of situation either. I'd like to think that he was able to bridge the gap between the two brothers.
Yuuji is someone who ought to have learned his lesson when he started cheating, because he knows what he is doing is wrong and he only continues to do it because Chika doesn't do anything except to forgive . I reckon that Yuuji can only learn to change when he is forced to, in this case when Chika tried to leave for good.
In any case, Chika is someone who not exactly realistic, as most people would have let it go once or maybe even twice. But anything more would cause hatred, because many people would believe that they were only being played with.
Its a story about someon who is a pretty bad sinner and one very saintly person.
Chika's character is realistic.
It might not seem to you, but I think it could be because of where you are from... maybe?
Because where I am from you can see this everyday. As I've seen it in heterosexual relationship context, I can assure you it has to do with the machismo of my culture (belief in the right of men to control women). And the thought of men aren't capable of controling their sexual drive, but that only shows how manly they are. They are manlier if they screw anything which wears a skirt (as the saying tells).
So cheating is thought as bad, but there is a lot of permission towards it because it is expected from men.
I think this is one of the reasons, but not the only one, because you can see dependeable relationships which go in the wrong way (hurting themselves a lot!) where the machismo isn't the only variable involved.
Chika's character not realistic?! where do you live in Jupiter?! Chika's character pretty much represents submissive partners. in hetero relationships, there are many women like Chika; specially in patriarchal societies like Japan. yup real Japan is a very conservative and patriarchal. in shoujo mangas you see many female characters very similar to Chika.
Chika's character can be realistic in any part of the world. They are usually people who have extremely low self-esteem and feel that they aren't good enough for anyone else, so they put up with the one who treats them badly. That's a typical and realistic situation just about anywhere.
But the feeling I get is that Chika can't feel hatred, as ugly as an emotion as it is. Even someone who has low self-esteem can realize that they're being treated terribly by some point in that sort of relationship. If they can't realize it themselves, then through someone else.
In retrospect, both the mother and the little brother committed a major crime against the uke. Both committed incest, however I think the reason why we focus on the mother is because she acts in a way that amounts to more of a betrayel of family than the little brother. She locked up the older brother, and then proceeded to verbally, mentally, and sexually abuse him, whereas from a legal standpoint, the younger brother only sexually abused him. The younger brother wasn't the one who essentially made the uke a prisoner. At the very least, there was love between the brothers. The mother calling her child a "pest" and using his existance as the reason for her problems was more than enough for me to know that even if the story was told from her perspective, I would still aide with the brothers.
To add on after reading other comments, the mother cannot and shouldn't be forgiven for her actions regardless of whatever happened in the past in the family that resulted in its dysfunction. Yes, it seems as if she is alone and conpletely overwhelmed, but nothing is really understandable about treating her children horribly for things that are beyond their control. Less so when she used her children for things that they cannot protect themselves against, especially given that she had beaten one of them down so harshly that he couldn't even physically protect himself against something he even considered a sin.
i also wondered if the uke's stuttering had anything to do from possible early abuse from his mother. You don't know if she abused him from early causing his stuttering. Very sad and tragic.
The issue is we can't tell if the younger brother sexually abused him just because it's the easy way to think of their having sex.
Ever considered the idea that the older brother somehow managed to convince the youngest brother to have sex because the oldest one couldn't take anymore of the rape and abuse and wanted to feel some love and decided to convince his brother to do it?
This Manga have no POV, meaning there's no way to tell who approached the idea of sex first but given the older brother was the one put in the context of not caring about incest more than his younger brother it's just as likely that he wanted to have sex with him because he wanted to do it with someone who actually loved him to forget this pain induced by the mother.