Sachiko December 11, 2018 4:24 am

Boring and clichéd. I had hoped this translation group finally found a worthwhile manga to translate. But they're still just as victim blamey as ever, too, so my hopes have been utterly dashed this time.

Sachiko December 10, 2018 5:25 am

Poor Yosano. They really must find it hard getting through life falling for unlikeable jerks like glasses guy all the time. Ktbn.

Sachiko December 7, 2018 12:03 pm

Can't stand the 'friend'. I imagine he and Shiba will be getting together. Shiba deserves so much better. Although Shiba does blame the wrong person, as well. Thx.

    Daya December 7, 2018 12:17 pm

    Gotta work on the friend phobia. They’re nice to have

    Sachiko December 7, 2018 12:36 pm
    Gotta work on the friend phobia. They’re nice to have Daya

    What friend phobia? I have friends. He isn't like anyone I'd recognize as a friend. Kt.

    Sachiko December 7, 2018 12:40 pm
    What friend phobia? I have friends. He isn't like anyone I'd recognize as a friend. Kt. Sachiko

    In fact, just for him, I would pull out the old adage, "With friends like him, who needs enemies?". Thanks, again.

    Daya December 8, 2018 6:34 am
    In fact, just for him, I would pull out the old adage, "With friends like him, who needs enemies?". Thanks, again. Sachiko

    Good friends are ones that you can give them shit, and they throw it right back. All others are acquaintances. God, just thinking about their inane blathering made me throwup in my mouth a little.

    Sachiko December 8, 2018 9:04 am
    Good friends are ones that you can give them shit, and they throw it right back. All others are acquaintances. God, just thinking about their inane blathering made me throwup in my mouth a little. Daya

    Except that's my point? The only one getting shit is the seme. Thx.

    Sachiko December 8, 2018 9:06 am
    Except that's my point? The only one getting shit is the seme. Thx. Sachiko

    And, even if they were both giving shit, the only one getting VICTIM BLAMING shit is... again... the seme. So, once again, you're proving MY point. Weird.

    Daya December 8, 2018 2:17 pm

    Omg, what even are you talking about. You’re 12? I cannot think of an adult spouting such nonsense. The friend is sardonic, that does not make him an asshole. Shishidou still gives his friend counsel, and even Usami’s address. Lastly with Shiba being tsudere, and Shishidou sardonic, I cant wait to see their dynamic. Have no idea where this VICTIM BLAMING crap is coming from

    Sachiko December 8, 2018 10:27 pm
    Omg, what even are you talking about. You’re 12? I cannot think of an adult spouting such nonsense. The friend is sardonic, that does not make him an asshole. Shishidou still gives his friend counsel, and eve... Daya

    No, only twelve year olds think 'friends' who pull people into their shit then tell them it's all their fault aren't victim blamers. They deny reality at the speed of fucking light, sweetcheeks. JUST. LIKE. YOU. Oh and if you want to make up shit, again, whether it's about me or not, twelve year old, you can do that on your OWN post. Kaythxbainow.

Sachiko December 6, 2018 8:29 pm

The only ones I like here are blue hair, MC and Bridgette.

Sachiko December 6, 2018 7:46 pm

This is so fucking cute. I love this adorable baby boy!

Sachiko December 6, 2018 5:35 pm

Ugh, rape. Ew.

Sachiko December 6, 2018 6:10 am

Nope. Can't stand the seme in the first couple. What an utter jerk. T.

    Sachiko December 6, 2018 7:09 am

    And the uke in the second is a jerk. I think the couples got mixed up.

Sachiko December 5, 2018 12:10 am

I hope the father suffers a lot more otherwise this should have been labelled a tragedy. Thanks.

    Hotaru6 December 5, 2018 7:21 am

    I couldnt accept the first chpts

    Tht was just so sad, it hurts my heart

    But dw, he kinda actually became better after the few chpts

    (Sry, not rlly trying to spoil anything, just to make u feel better hopefully, bcz, i felt u :))

    Sachiko December 5, 2018 7:39 am
    I couldnt accept the first chptsTht was just so sad, it hurts my heartBut dw, he kinda actually became better after the few chpts(Sry, not rlly trying to spoil anything, just to make u feel better hopefully, bc... Hotaru6

    I don't mind spoilers. But I have read the raws and my feelings around him haven't changed. He took his anger out on an innocent person. And for me that's all I need to know. But thanks for being so sweet, Hotaru! :)

    Hotaru6 December 5, 2018 7:55 am
    I don't mind spoilers. But I have read the raws and my feelings around him haven't changed. He took his anger out on an innocent person. And for me that's all I need to know. But thanks for being so sweet, Hota... Sachiko

    Awww, ty, np (⌒▽⌒)

    Alsooo, can i ask u something??
    Wht do u think of like the brown haired girl

    Im not rlly sure about her tbh,
    For me, i have like mix feelings of her
    But i wanna know wht others might think or smthn

    Sachiko December 5, 2018 8:58 am
    Awww, ty, np (⌒▽⌒)Alsooo, can i ask u something??Wht do u think of like the brown haired girlIm not rlly sure about her tbh, For me, i have like mix feelings of herBut i wanna know wht others might think ... Hotaru6

    I don't think she's like either of the supposed heroines in either Koushaku or The Abandoned Empress. She actually seems genuine. I mean she met the other girl when they were both still really young. And the 'heroine' hasn't acted nearly as suspiciously as the other two 'heroines' in the other stories.

    Hotaru6 December 5, 2018 1:55 pm
    I don't think she's like either of the supposed heroines in either Koushaku or The Abandoned Empress. She actually seems genuine. I mean she met the other girl when they were both still really young. And the 'h... Sachiko

    Yeahhh, i get that feeling too
    And she seems quite nice and innocent tbh
    So like i want her and our girl to be friends, so
    Less trouble and stressful
    (And theyre kind like cousin anyways so..)

    Sachiko December 6, 2018 1:32 am
    Yeahhh, i get that feeling tooAnd she seems quite nice and innocent tbhSo like i want her and our girl to be friends, soLess trouble and stressful(And theyre kind like cousin anyways so..) Hotaru6

    Have you read the novel? If so, has it been explained that she and the 'heroine' are first cousins or half-sisters? Also, yeah, I really loved the way the MC and 'heroine' in Otome Game interacted myself so I would really love it if it turned out the same, here!

    Hotaru6 December 6, 2018 2:31 am
    Have you read the novel? If so, has it been explained that she and the 'heroine' are first cousins or half-sisters? Also, yeah, I really loved the way the MC and 'heroine' in Otome Game interacted myself so I w... Sachiko

    Since ive only seen like the raw, im not quite sure
    But wht i think i understand is like,
    She is the daughter of his older brother
    (I think he killed his brother, and the wife runaway after, while pregnant or smthn)
    (=・ω・=)
    But yeah, im so excited to see it all being translated :D

    Sachiko December 6, 2018 4:20 am
    Since ive only seen like the raw, im not quite sureBut wht i think i understand is like, She is the daughter of his older brother(I think he killed his brother, and the wife runaway after, while pregnant or smt... Hotaru6

    That's kinda what I understood from the raws, too. His older brother seemed to be a real prick, too, though.

    Ai22 December 6, 2018 4:13 pm
    Awww, ty, np (⌒▽⌒)Alsooo, can i ask u something??Wht do u think of like the brown haired girlIm not rlly sure about her tbh, For me, i have like mix feelings of herBut i wanna know wht others might think ... Hotaru6

    But for me.. i kind of wish that the hair brown girl turn evil due to seek the love from the father. Only the MC can hv the father’s love.
    But still hope both of them can be friend~~
    Sorry for the bad english

    Sachiko December 6, 2018 5:47 pm
    But for me.. i kind of wish that the hair brown girl turn evil due to seek the love from the father. Only the MC can hv the father’s love.But still hope both of them can be friend~~Sorry for the bad english Ai22

    Well, I kinda want the brown haired girl to be nice because I want our MC to feel that she has to pull away from her father causing him to feel great distress.

    Hotaru6 December 7, 2018 7:13 am

    And also now that im thinking about it,
    The real enemy might be the brown haired girl's mother,
    Cuz like, remember how in the book,
    The brown haired girl got poisoned, and thn the mother blamed our girl, resulting her getting executed (i think),

    And i feel like the father of the white haired kid is suspicious, (he might be connected to the mother or smthn) and he might try to take over the throne or smthn..

    I dont care if the parent is evel and such,
    I just want the kids to be nice, and get together,
    (I feel like it'll hurt less at least (bcz i still feel uneasy))

    Hotaru6 December 7, 2018 7:15 am

    Ur english is just fine :))

    (Tnx guys for ur opinion(⌒▽⌒))

    Hotaru6 December 7, 2018 7:31 am

    Ok nm guys,
    I meant the brown haired girl's aunt,
    Who is actually might be the real enemy

    (I went through it again just to make sure,
    And it says there that, the mom died while giving birth of her, and the aunt want her to be the empress so she made the brown hair girl drink a poison,
    Thn the blame went to our girl,
    Thn claude executed our her :( )

    (Sry for the misunderstanding and spoiler..

    Hotaru6 December 7, 2018 7:41 am

    And i dont think it might happen again (the thingy on the book might not happen again)
    Bcz in the real one, claude finally noticed our girl, and have been with her for years, so most likely, he treat her as his own daughter, and ofc, might even favor her,

    He wont be able to favor the zenit(brown hair girl)
    anymore bcz his heart has already been melted by our girl,

    and bcz in the book, zenit only got him to favor her bcz, he didnt even like our girl/ didnt favor her there, bcz (idk for sure whts wrong with his mind for disliking our girl so much, and evn resent her)

    So.. myb, its the opposite this time

    (I dont make sense but, i hope the point went out well lolllll)

    Sachiko December 7, 2018 10:57 am
    And i dont think it might happen again (the thingy on the book might not happen again)Bcz in the real one, claude finally noticed our girl, and have been with her for years, so most likely, he treat her as his ... Hotaru6

    Don't worry about the spoilers. :) I already said I didn't mind them. So anyone replying on this thread should expect to have spoilers.

    Well, he favoured Jenet because it looks like he might have been in love with her mother or felt guilty about her death or both. If she died in childbirth though, I would have thought he would have hated her just as much as he did our MC, especially if he was in love with the brown haired girl's mother.

    Hotaru6 December 7, 2018 7:17 pm
    Don't worry about the spoilers. :) I already said I didn't mind them. So anyone replying on this thread should expect to have spoilers.Well, he favoured Jenet because it looks like he might have been in love wi... Sachiko

    Yeah ur right

    And the thing is, its kinda puzzle and confusing at the same time bcz
    It says there that brown hair girl's mom became fiancee with claude,
    But didnt she like had a relationship with his brother
    (But she was kicked out anyways)

    But its crazy bcz i thought he liked zenit's mom,
    and later on, he also loved jenet's mom
    And thts kinda funny tbh, while just thinking about

    Thats why im thinking,
    The story in the book might be actually different
    to the real one (the current one)

    Sachiko December 7, 2018 8:44 pm
    Yeah ur rightAnd the thing is, its kinda puzzle and confusing at the same time bcz It says there that brown hair girl's mom became fiancee with claude,But didnt she like had a relationship with his brother(But ... Hotaru6

    Well, Claude might have loved Jenet's mother and married her after his brother died. He fell in love with Atanasia's mother, afterwards, I thought? Those are the only two women he loved as far as I'm aware, though?

    Ai22 December 8, 2018 5:57 am
    Well, Claude might have loved Jenet's mother and married her after his brother died. He fell in love with Atanasia's mother, afterwards, I thought? Those are the only two women he loved as far as I'm aware, tho... Sachiko

    Ya. I thought the same.

    Hotaru6 December 8, 2018 6:10 am

    Yes i very much agree


    I really hope it will all be translated now so that we can actually know and determine wht rlly is up
    (Bcz it breaks my heart (and mind) sometimes whn i try to think about it..)

    Sachiko December 8, 2018 9:09 am
    Yes i very much agreeI really hope it will all be translated now so that we can actually know and determine wht rlly is up(Bcz it breaks my heart (and mind) sometimes whn i try to think about it..) Hotaru6

    Yup^.

Sachiko December 4, 2018 6:07 pm

Oh, wow, wow, wow! The author actually did the near impossible, and the first time this has happened with a Japanese author for me. I really believed Hachiya was a complete jerk. But now I find him absolutely ADORKABLE.

Sachiko November 30, 2018 6:19 pm

So just in case others also misunderstand my last comment on this page without reading further, I would like to point out a few things: Do I believe the seme is abusive? Yes. Do I believe the seme could have used other methods to achieve his goal? YES. But do I believe talking is one of those other methods? HELL no. I gave the answer I did for my second point because he could have achieved his ends by turning the tables on Kisaragi. By killing him. Or by charging him with a crime. Or by ruining him. Etc... etc.... I gave the answer I did for my third point for a number of reasons. But the main reason is that talking puts the onus on the UKE to change their behavior without acknowledging the extent of the abusive behavior of the ex (basically, it gives the ex a complete pass). I hope everyone enjoyed their edumacation in the obvious, now.

Sad that so many people love victim blaming and showing it by downvoting. Keep showing your asses, sweetcheeks. Oops, ktbn.

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