Can't stand the 'friend'. I imagine he and Shiba will be getting together. Shiba deserves so much better. Although Shiba does blame the wrong person, as well. Thx.
Omg, what even are you talking about. You’re 12? I cannot think of an adult spouting such nonsense. The friend is sardonic, that does not make him an asshole. Shishidou still gives his friend counsel, and even Usami’s address. Lastly with Shiba being tsudere, and Shishidou sardonic, I cant wait to see their dynamic. Have no idea where this VICTIM BLAMING crap is coming from
No, only twelve year olds think 'friends' who pull people into their shit then tell them it's all their fault aren't victim blamers. They deny reality at the speed of fucking light, sweetcheeks. JUST. LIKE. YOU. Oh and if you want to make up shit, again, whether it's about me or not, twelve year old, you can do that on your OWN post. Kaythxbainow.
I hope the father suffers a lot more otherwise this should have been labelled a tragedy. Thanks.
I don't think she's like either of the supposed heroines in either Koushaku or The Abandoned Empress. She actually seems genuine. I mean she met the other girl when they were both still really young. And the 'heroine' hasn't acted nearly as suspiciously as the other two 'heroines' in the other stories.
And also now that im thinking about it,
The real enemy might be the brown haired girl's mother,
Cuz like, remember how in the book,
The brown haired girl got poisoned, and thn the mother blamed our girl, resulting her getting executed (i think),
And i feel like the father of the white haired kid is suspicious, (he might be connected to the mother or smthn) and he might try to take over the throne or smthn..
I dont care if the parent is evel and such,
I just want the kids to be nice, and get together,
(I feel like it'll hurt less at least (bcz i still feel uneasy))
Ok nm guys,
I meant the brown haired girl's aunt,
Who is actually might be the real enemy
(I went through it again just to make sure,
And it says there that, the mom died while giving birth of her, and the aunt want her to be the empress so she made the brown hair girl drink a poison,
Thn the blame went to our girl,
Thn claude executed our her :( )
(Sry for the misunderstanding and spoiler..
And i dont think it might happen again (the thingy on the book might not happen again)
Bcz in the real one, claude finally noticed our girl, and have been with her for years, so most likely, he treat her as his own daughter, and ofc, might even favor her,
He wont be able to favor the zenit(brown hair girl)
anymore bcz his heart has already been melted by our girl,
and bcz in the book, zenit only got him to favor her bcz, he didnt even like our girl/ didnt favor her there, bcz (idk for sure whts wrong with his mind for disliking our girl so much, and evn resent her)
So.. myb, its the opposite this time
(I dont make sense but, i hope the point went out well lolllll)
Don't worry about the spoilers. :) I already said I didn't mind them. So anyone replying on this thread should expect to have spoilers.
Well, he favoured Jenet because it looks like he might have been in love with her mother or felt guilty about her death or both. If she died in childbirth though, I would have thought he would have hated her just as much as he did our MC, especially if he was in love with the brown haired girl's mother.
Yeah ur right
And the thing is, its kinda puzzle and confusing at the same time bcz
It says there that brown hair girl's mom became fiancee with claude,
But didnt she like had a relationship with his brother
(But she was kicked out anyways)
But its crazy bcz i thought he liked zenit's mom,
and later on, he also loved jenet's mom
And thts kinda funny tbh, while just thinking about
Thats why im thinking,
The story in the book might be actually different
to the real one (the current one)
So just in case others also misunderstand my last comment on this page without reading further, I would like to point out a few things: Do I believe the seme is abusive? Yes. Do I believe the seme could have used other methods to achieve his goal? YES. But do I believe talking is one of those other methods? HELL no. I gave the answer I did for my second point because he could have achieved his ends by turning the tables on Kisaragi. By killing him. Or by charging him with a crime. Or by ruining him. Etc... etc.... I gave the answer I did for my third point for a number of reasons. But the main reason is that talking puts the onus on the UKE to change their behavior without acknowledging the extent of the abusive behavior of the ex (basically, it gives the ex a complete pass). I hope everyone enjoyed their edumacation in the obvious, now.
Sad that so many people love victim blaming and showing it by downvoting. Keep showing your asses, sweetcheeks. Oops, ktbn.











Boring and clichéd. I had hoped this translation group finally found a worthwhile manga to translate. But they're still just as victim blamey as ever, too, so my hopes have been utterly dashed this time.