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It is, but it’s not that good. I liked it until the MC was suddenly perfect at and knew everything.

yeah, I feel you, I like a slight human-like imperfection to characters. But what's with the romance aspect of it? Is the romance like a one small moment every ten chapters type of deal or is it just not that interesting romance wise?

If you're looking for some romancing I wouldn't say this is really the place tbh.

At most, the romance aspect here is more to Dean's fascination with the mc and likewise. They both are more busy with the goals at hand than spending a good amount of chapters trying to woo one another lol. I'm sure Iris and Dean's way of flirting with one another is showing their passion/hard work in protecting the people and their loyalty to not betray one another.

The manga focuses way more on the world building aspect than romance, it usually gives the hints of who’s going to end up with who, and prince Alfredo and all that jazz but that’s for a long time coming still. I kind of like it this way too though, girl is a true boss.

She is not perfect... She makes mistakes, that’s why she got in trouble with the church, they took advantage of her mistake, she needs her people’s help to get put of trouble sometimes, specially Dean’s, not everyone loves as like in this last chapter, she also needs help to do all the work, she’s not a genius with incredible stamina, that’s why Tanya is always worried about her, because she tends to pass out of overwork...

I don’t know what you definition of perfect is, bit she is certainly not perfect, like in most of these reincarnation plots were the protagonists are indeed perfect, intelligent, strong physically (they can use the sword, the have magic, etc) and mentally, everyone loves them, they never get mad, they forgive everyone, etc, etc, etc

She is not perfect... She makes mistakes, that’s why she got in trouble with the church, they took advantage of her mistake, she needs her people’s help to get out of trouble sometimes, specially Dean’s, not everyone loves her, like in this last chapter, she also needs help to do all the work, she’s not a genius (she has a career and work experience, that’s why she’s knowledgeable) with incredible stamina, that’s why Tanya is always worried about her, because she tends to pass out of overwork...

I don’t know what you definition of perfect is, bit she is certainly not perfect, like in most of these reincarnation plots were the protagonists are indeed perfect, intelligent, strong physically (they can use the sword, the have magic, etc) and mentally, everyone loves them, they never get mad, they forgive everyone, etc, etc, etc

I’m probably thinking of the wrong manga. There was one where she started making a bunch of businesses. Somehow she knew how to make chocolate, perfume, a bunch of things that existed in her world that she would have no knowledge of knowing, so I had to drop it because it was so damn stupid. Thought that was this manga. My b.

... Nope, I think you're thinking of the right manga
I agree in that the MC is "perfect" in that she knows how to make all the sweets and cosmetics (who ACTUALLY knows how to make everything perfectly using medieval tools and ingredients, really???).

I would also argue with ViRin that "overworking" can be looked upon favourably by some people (being a hard worker), thus also making her "perfect". While I don't consider this healthy, I don't consider it a flaw, either.

Business knowledge + financial knowledge + chocolate knowledge + cosmetics knowledge = too much damn knowledge for me to believe she had ALL of it in her past life. (Maybe if she had passing knowledge in cosmetics? But no, she has FULL knowledge on it, and that seems a little sketchy to me).

I would argue that "overworking" can be looked upon favourably by some people (being a hard worker), thus also making her "perfect". While I don't consider this healthy, I don't consider it a flaw, either.

Also, Idk, the people around her are all TOO competent.

And that "mistake" that you mentioned concerning the church? MC did not make a mistake there - it's just that others manipulated information and took advantage of what she had done in order to bring her down. She did everything properly at the time - she attempted to get the proper permission to build the new church and whatnot. The attacks on her afterwards came out of left field - how could she have known they would have used the situation to try to bring her down?

Missing a surprise attack like that doesn't count as a "mistake". It wasn't actually an oversight. She couldn't have predicted that.

I'd like to clarify that I do enjoy this manga, and I do think that MC struggles realistically with workloads and the weight of responsibility - but I DO see how someone could argue that she is too perfect for their liking.

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very true but do you thing if the king actually saw her he'd still want to kill her

You're not alone. The age difference makes me cringe. When she gets older, it might get slightly better but right now, it's pretty hard to read.

yeah it seems like she hasn't physically aged at all since the beginning of this manga. also it would be mad wierd for someone his age to be pining after a literal child regardless of how mentally mature she is. his dark characteristic would be... dare I say it... pedophilia *vomit*

Like I said, story hasn’t even moved yet. You’re probably at like 5% of the whole story. The Leon stuff happens AFTER she grows up and her dad wants to marry her off to a political marriage But she’s like no, I’ll marry someone of my own choice and earns that right with accomplishments and such.

i don't like leon because i think he's boring @_@

He still met her when she was a child. If you meet someone when they are a child and you are an adult, don’t marry them.

I’m also with you. Even if Rosemary’s mental age is closer to Leon’s, their physical age difference is just make Leon seems like pedophile.

Doesn’t mean I agree with Lutz as her ML though. Her mental age make it hard for me to ship her with Lutz, even though they’re physically closer in age. This make Rosemary like the pedophile one.

Can’t consider the romance yet, as Rosemary is still a child. At least wait until all characters physically and mentally adult first, then that’s the time we’re going to (shipping) war.

That's why I said it might get easier to read when they get older. Not quite sure what you're talking about in the second sentence though.

I mean if you met and knew someone when they were a child and you are an adult, marrying them even when they become an adult is hella creepy.

That's true. We don't know how old Leon is though, so that's what I'm trying to find out at the moment.

How’s that even matter when they’ll all grow up? She’s just a kid to him right now. I mean spoiling it a little, her dad the king was thinking to marry her off in political marriage which could involve some old geezer if she didn’t step in to stop that. Plus during those times, marriages with older men are normal? When she’s 20, he’ll be 30ish, when she’s 30, she’ll be 40ish, so hows that matter?

Because he met her and will continue to get to know her when she’s five.

She’s 10 and a half, and he’ll see her as a kid first. Then a few yrs will pass, transforms to marriage age, and he still sees her as a kid? Tho she be changing things cos she then racks up a lot of accomplishments and country recognizes her as a powerful crown princess so I don’t get your point.

Even if it was normal at that time, it's considered highly concerning when something like that happens today. The reason why its odd is because it isn't socially excepted in the time that we're reading this today.

Even if he acknowledges she grew up, he met her when she was a kid. That is creepy. If they met when she was twenty and she was thirty, that’s one thing, but this is some disgusting Woody Allen level shit.

But you’re reading a work that’s based on olden times, and you can’t impose modern ethics to it? Why would it be odd when political arranged marriages happen all the time during the past, when ppl marry for titles and strengthen familial power, especially in royalty?

And besides, Leon still sees her as a kid even now, when people alrdy recognize her strengths to govern political issues? Why mention abt Leon pining after a child when he’s done nothing like that at all, and it was the princess who loves him not the other way round?

I guess it’s due to reader preferences. I personally think it’s ok, cos he was gonna reject her later anyway. I mean right now, in webnovel, there’s STILL nothing happening even though she’s all older now and the way she thinks is maturing and all. If you don’t like the setup best to just drop the manga cos it’s a slowwww burn lol. Cheers!

I did, but it’s still gross and creepy and the “it was normal back then” argument doesn’t work because it’s not an actual historical manga.

It does, because the ENTIRE political marriage problem is exactly what she set off to gain control over. Her dad was gonna marry her off to strengthen country ties if she didn’t achieve her own merits, whether it’s an old fart or a young prince, he doesn’t care. The entire webnovel is set up as such, and reason why nobody even bats an eyelid when they notice her feeling for Leon, an older man.

Eh, still absolutely disgusting copout from the author.

Lol, tbh ure not really missing much, there’s tons of other reincarnated villainess works out there n I get why you dropped it. I’m staying coz I like the princess x knight theme and you gotta hand it to the girl, she knows what she wants and she’s got a one track mind.

That’s cool. I was commenting on the thread cuz everyone on it agreed they don’t like it.