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my thoughts exactly...Kang's personality is such a tough nut to crack but hopefully we can see them make up soon

Yup he's tough and harsh but not toxic
He's one of my favourite semes, very sexy as well as intelligent

I love the fact that he says he's immoral and gets his hands dirty, but in fact he's the one with the most strict moral boundaries

He definitely IS toxic, just not in an irredeemable way. He does what he does because it's hard for him to trust anyone. He's afraid of appearing vulnerable and he feels quite insecure due the intense feelings that mc is forcing out of the walls he has built. But yeah, while i enjoy how flawed he is (since it'll feel more rewarding once mc wins him over) I wouldn't blame mc if he no longer wanted to put up with his calousness.

I mean, I get what you're saying
I agree that he's flawed and insecure
But I don't consider that toxic, he's not forcing himself on anyone, yunshin is putting up with his behaviour consensually

And also I'd be angry too if I was insecure about being used and I've caught my partner lurking around in my personal space right before he confesses his feelings for me literally sobbing in the middle of the street. And as if that's not enough reason for suspicions, I find out that he has a serious matter that only I can solve and he kept it from me

I'll admit, he should've talked about it with Yunshin instead of throwing a tantrum
But let's be realistic, he's human and he's hurt. It's called defense mechanism. But it's not like he was being violent or abusive or anything

Sorry for the long ass reply lol
So what I'm saying is I agree and disagree with you at the same time, if that makes any sense

Being toxic is being human a lot of times. It's not only when someone forces themselves on you that it's considered toxicity. Just because Yunshin putting up with him doesn't change anything.A lot of people put up with bad behavior, this doesn't mean though that the behavior of the other person isn't bad. And I'm not speaking about this specific instance where his feelings got 'hurt', there are plenty of scenes where he was a complete asshole. Let me add to that, that someone can be toxic to another human being without necessarily having a relationship with them. Being traumatized explains the behavior, it doesn't automatically make it 'healthy' (not toxic). I can mention various instances when he was very toxic in the story. Is it because of his trust issues stemming from trauma and his overwhelming feelings? Yes.
Does this make his behavior not toxic? No.
Just because i feel irritable for example and i have certain views about people with a personality like you due to my trauma, it doesn't excuse me treating you badly. Yeah, i may be pitiful, but my bad mental state doesn't give me the right to be bad to you, even if you've unknowingly hurt me with your existence. Hope this makes sense.

You can understand and like a character without justifying his behavior by calling it healthy. It's not, by any means. I like him as well, because he's a well written character but I'm not overlooking the fact that he is toxic, I'm just looking at him as a flawed human being, which is what he is.

Yes I understand, thank you for explaining
Although I have a different opinion, I completely understand and respect what you're saying

I didn't exactly mean that he's "healthy"
He's obviously not
It's just that I think "toxic" is a bit extreme for this character as a whole
I mean we all know people with a couple of bad habits, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are "bad" as a whole
Same goes for Mr. Kang, he has a couple of mini toxic habits but he's not a toxic person in my opinion
He is flawed and he's made a ton of mistakes and he has to make up for them tho

Oh, but i never said that someone toxic is bad as a whole. People are not just black or white, we all have aspects that are good or bad. Someone can be toxic and still have good aspects which will eventually lead to even healthier behavior. Toxic is a word to describe someone behaving in a unhealthy way towards others, it's not a term that describes someone's whole personality nor is it necessary something permanent. Almost all people have the potential to heal and become a better version of themselves, even if they've been toxic in the past. Humans after all, are complex creatures.

Hope that makes sense. Toxic is nothing more than a term, it's not an "extreme" way to describe someone's bad aspects. It's a spectrum, you could say. Some people are more toxic than others for example. Someone's actions may not be as bad as another's extremely hurtful actions, but their still toxic nevertheless. What I'm trying to say, is that this term is not used in just extremely bad cases, but in general to describe hurtful behavior towards someone undeserving (and yes, mc was undeserving of ml's hurtful behavior in a lot of cases. Without saying of course that mc is always without fault. He's a flawed character as well)

Oof, you were saying you're the one who writes a lot, but look at the huge paragraphs i created XD

Yes now that you've put it like that I totally agree

Lol ikrrr, I always start with the intention of writing one sentence, and end up sending a thick ass love letter =)))))

This was a nice conversation, thank you for the effort

I suspected we had a misunderstanding over the use of the term because we were technically coming to the same conclusion lol

It's okay, it's hard to explain things in a way that can be understood by other people without writing a whole paragraph so i get it XD

Thank you for the effort as well! It's indeed a fascinating subject.

Wait why is Kang feeling betrayed

Because he found out about the problem that Yunshins sister is going through and he thought Yunshin confession was all a lie to get him involved in the case

Oh whew I have t read this so I thought MC cheated or some misunderstanding with a love rival

Thiss, but I won’t drop it yet, they owe us a spicy scene after these past depressing chapters

I understand, but for me personally, I think seeing that would make me even more disgusted

there's only one more chapter.. and yah the "spicey scene" made me wanna bleach my eyes

Wtf really?
So the main part of the manhwa was about him being a dick with no character development?

I love how you've read 53 chapters bc you were too lazy to unsuscribe

Gurl, I stayed heartbroken over one person for six years just because it was bothersome to be depressed over something else ╥﹏╥
I just don't like change
I can't adapt

Damn ._. Such is life I guess

Damn Bro that must hurt, I hope you're feeling better but reading over 50+ chapters because you can't adapt shows that you're at least consistent... (well consistently sad but still consistent...)

i meant to leave a like but my freking big ass thumb clicked the dislike

You don't have to kick it, just cook it

Yeah that's a better idea ╥﹏╥

Never kick a chicken. They fast, wiry, they can fly, yes they can, and their beaks are pointed. Plus, they hold grudges

Yeah I was followed by an angry goose once, I know I'm better off not messing with birds ╥﹏╥

Also I know myself, if I even slightly annoy an animal, I'm gonna feel guilty about it for a long time
20 years ago I killed a goldfish, it still haunts me till this day ╥﹏╥

Lmao.

Geese are all bark no bite, actually. If u can get over the fear of their bites (because u are much bigger than their avg prey), u can easily pick them up. Not hens. Fuck hens

Ummm
I'm not exactly afraid of them that much
It just made me realise that birds are easily disturbed so I just don't want to stress them anymore
It's not like I have a lot of interaction with birds anyway
But thanks for the tip

I live on a farm, we had a mated pair of geese. They both passed within a year of each other at ripe young age of 13 (the avg lifespan is 12-15 btw). The dogs were terrified of them lmao.

Also
I get that Jaekyung has lost weight for the match, but why the hell does he look shorter?

he also lost height for that match. what a champ

RIIGHT OMGi enjoy this story but the chapters are always really short with not much happening

I caught on to this author kind of late but I'm so glad I finally have. The banner for ouroboros made me think it was just going to be a tasteless, rapey gangbang of a mess, but when i finally read it and discovered how nuanced and beautifully written the story was, it became a favorite. This one is my absolute favorite right now, i love this author too and enjoy how careful they are with how they write their characters. So good

Same, I'm not even into polly relationships in general, so I was really hesitant but it didn't take long for me to realise how good their work is

Same goes for this one
At first I saw the summary and kinda freaked out, but decided to give it a shot since I really enjoyed their other work and OMFGGG
I fucking love this one as well, if not more
I mean, obviously the art has improved since ouroboros

This banner was less of a flag for me because I read "Do you still like me?" and "Woof Wolf" which both have a muzzled character in the cover photo, but the stories are pretty good and aren't fixated on dehumanizing domination. So when I saw this author has a new work out I immediately clicked it without reading a damn thing about it, I was just excited for more of their content haha and to no one's surprise, it's excellent.

The characters are so pretty but still masculine somehow, which has been a magical feast for the eyes lol Sometimes I linger on/go back to a page just to enjoy how beautifully drawn Jooin is omg