yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 1:16 am

The characters don't need a tragedy in their lives, living in historical germany should be enough

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 1:11 am

Nah but like whenever there is this much of a huge height gape between a yaoi couple i just feel so tired for the bottom during sex scenes like bitch that shit aient love making, that shit is a whole ass cardio routine

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 1:10 am

Wishing for a 10 feet tall rich titan hot rich boyfriend like our lovely top right here

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 1:06 am

Jooin will obviously end up with the shitty black hair ml and my heart is breaking and shattering for cutie blondie

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 1:04 am

İ wish yahwi and cain would just end up together at this point

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 1:03 am

This felt like the essence itself of those shitty 2000s yaois

    Naty Hunter August 12, 2023 2:37 am

    I was about to comment this but less acidly lol

    yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 7:38 am
    I was about to comment this but less acidly lol Naty Hunter

    i take it as a compliment lololololol

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 12:54 am

Not the top immediatly fucking the bottom again right after apologising for raping him previously

yuhi_sama August 12, 2023 12:45 am

mc with anger issues and a ml who can't communicate and who also has anger issues, perfect pair for my own anger issues

yuhi_sama August 11, 2023 9:05 am

Why do bl characters always look so old in theie 30s, like the are most of the time even asian, being in their 30 s must be nothing for them

    Heyitsneo August 11, 2023 2:54 pm

    I mean hey, its either they look like well built teenagers despite being 40+ *cough cough* Dads of Shoujo transmigration comics *Cough* or they’re actually look like they’re a bit aged. I prefer the latter cause you cant really do much with a simplified artstyle without spending an eternity drawing the same face per panel.

    yuhi_sama August 11, 2023 11:19 pm
    I mean hey, its either they look like well built teenagers despite being 40+ *cough cough* Dads of Shoujo transmigration comics *Cough* or they’re actually look like they’re a bit aged. I prefer the latter ... Heyitsneo

    Yeah same but i just dont understand why the cant make a character actually look their age especially in mangas with more realistic styles. İ think in dangerous convenience store the author succeded pretty well at making the characters look their age. But tbh especially as an artist myself i feel like more stylised artstyle ussually represent way better the age of the characters, because while a realistic style can be quite practical to draw someone accurately, it can also be hard to find a proper referance and actually make someone look their age. İ feel like this whole artstyle issue could also have to do with maybe artists using way older or foreign people as referance while drawing and maybe going overboard on their physical traits. İ myself find myself sometimes guilty of making my ocs look much older than they are while using older people as referance (because i liked their pose)

    Heyitsneo August 12, 2023 2:32 pm
    Yeah same but i just dont understand why the cant make a character actually look their age especially in mangas with more realistic styles. İ think in dangerous convenience store the author succeded pretty wel... yuhi_sama

    Yeah fr, I too am an artist. And I often forget that im drawing a character in a certain age and completely forget to make them look it and focus on aesthetics

yuhi_sama August 11, 2023 8:55 am

Even bls show how deep the patriarchy has been forced upon us. İ suppose that most readers are female and associate the bottom with the female lead in a straight manga. And for some reason the bottoms are always hated way more for their actions than the tops. Like for example what this bottom did is basically the same as what the top in jinx did, and the top in jinx is also a much bigger assshole. But i don't see half as much hate for the ml in jinx by what i assume are simmilar readers as both webtoons are bl. And this aien't special to this bl in which the bottom is the creepy one, nearly in all the bls with creepy bottoms that i have read the readers suddenly become moral experts for some reason. The mc is in fact creepy but so are most of the tops in other debts/work yaoi so if you can held the bottom accountable for his mistakes why don't you do the same in other yaoi where the tops are doing even worse shit

    blueninja89 August 11, 2023 1:26 pm

    Yeah sis that’s a hot take. Especially when Jinx has a whole SA scene and it’s author is notorious for it. This story is by no means the same as Jinx sure there’s a “contractual agreement” and elements of misconduct given the initial financial i imbalance but there’s not literal force, abuse, and withheld consent. It’s actually messed up you’re comparing the two to reduce the harm Jinx and others like clearly has.

    blueninja89 August 11, 2023 1:38 pm
    Yeah sis that’s a hot take. Especially when Jinx has a whole SA scene and it’s author is notorious for it. This story is by no means the same as Jinx sure there’s a “contractual agreement” and element... blueninja89

    I will agree that the implication of their first “sexual encounter” is for sure bad definitely, and the grayness of these sort of plots need to be called out too especially when it uses the typical fashion of utilizing alcohol or non verbal consent as a convenient plot device, but I’ll argue given the back story of the ML he’s approaching the MC (sunbae) with incorrectly learned romantic skills it’s the same situation that played out for actor Aziz Ansari if you’re familiar with his pre cursor “Me Too” scandal. Men are thought by unfortunately porn, their peers, and society to approach romantic partners in ways that in actuality can be harmful and hurtful because they’ve been indoctrinated into a mindset. It doesn’t at all excuse the behavior but it gives it context and and rationality. In the case of Aziz it was a bad sexual experience with a partner who admits herself wasn’t assaulted but for sure felt pressured and these are the sort of gray areas that need to be unpacked and properly understood for how they can effect people. I can again understand yours and others takes but I’m being a little more lenient because with the story here for per your example of Jinx specifically as comparison the point is the ML there enjoys harming his partner for his own sexual pleasure and encouragement for his athleticism.

    vvvkkkvvv August 11, 2023 2:15 pm

    While I agree that this behavior is disgusting I don't see it as patriarchy at play. And I don't see the uke = women link you made. Why? Because women get away with rape all the time, get lesser sentencing too and if they are hot, news make it into: "This dude is so lucky for getting raped by a hot woman." And this happens because everyone sees women as weaker. Men are not responsible for everything bad in life.

    yuhi_sama August 11, 2023 11:08 pm
    While I agree that this behavior is disgusting I don't see it as patriarchy at play. And I don't see the uke = women link you made. Why? Because women get away with rape all the time, get lesser sentencing too ... vvvkkkvvv

    İ mostly said that because i just talked and met so many young female bl fans that just viewed the uke as a female character basically and they woulf basically put themselves into the uke's role. Btw whenever the top is prettier and cuter than the uke there is often people going on about how the roles should be reversed and all. This situation has decreased more and more in english speaking bl fandoms but i read bl also in turkish and french and i still see so many people basically viewing the bottom as a women

    yuhi_sama August 11, 2023 11:12 pm
    Yeah sis that’s a hot take. Especially when Jinx has a whole SA scene and it’s author is notorious for it. This story is by no means the same as Jinx sure there’s a “contractual agreement” and element... blueninja89

    Obviously jinx is worse but there isnt nearly as much hate towards the top in jinx as there is toward the bottom in this bl even tough the top in jinx treated dan wayyyy worse. And i litteraly didnt compare the two to reduce the harm jinx made on the contrary i meant that its shitty that people would much rather shit on a manipulative but on the kinder side bottom and basically accept a shitty top just because one is a bottom and the other a top. And i saw this happen in so many other yaoi, like i have read over 2k and people are always so much more hatefull towards manipulative or shitty bottoms while pretty much excusing the behaviour of abusing tops. Girl tbh i m not gonna read your second comment cause i feel like you went to far and didnt actually understand what i meant

    vvvkkkvvv August 12, 2023 12:58 am
    İ mostly said that because i just talked and met so many young female bl fans that just viewed the uke as a female character basically and they woulf basically put themselves into the uke's role. Btw whenever ... yuhi_sama

    It is true that the bottom is often a self insert and real gay men prefer manly dudes. They don't really like feminine guys, they attracted to men after all. Another thing is, majority of the people reading bl are women. So I think it's due to the fact that their self insert is doing what they would never do if that makes sense. That is why the bottoms are very bland or "relatable", it's cuz women want to imagine themselves in their skin. I might be wrong after all, it's just my assumption but I think there could be some truth to that.

    K_S_R September 25, 2023 11:17 am

    I agree with the first opinion you had but I disagree that ukes are the most hated, ukes can be cheating on the seme with other guys and everything in the comments it’s like omg so cunty! Meanwhile a seme talks back or says he doesn’t like x thing and the whole comment section is everyone saying “uke deserves better” “I hope he leaves him”. Or if the uke is the Dominant one is always ok but if the seme is the dominant one everyone is like “that’s literally a crime” “so forceful” “seme is a rapist” etc

    K_S_R September 25, 2023 11:20 am

    Also if the seme is buff everyone is like muscles are disgusting, he looks grotesque, he’s too big, thinner is better, women don’t like muscles, etc. but if the uke is buff everyone is like king, big tiddies, big boy, and other compliments.

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