ope1965 July 24, 2024 11:42 pm

kiddo, seeing that, you better know you have no chance ^_^; (referring to the end of ch 34)

ope1965 July 24, 2024 7:43 pm

what even is this art style

ope1965 July 24, 2024 6:07 pm

blondie was cute if not a little weird
minchan can honestly fuck off at this point

ope1965 July 24, 2024 4:13 pm

glad to confirm Yihan's a shitty asshole
I can't bring myself to hate the uke, he was trapped by the man he loved who continually hurt him emotionally, and someone else who hurt him physically and blackmailed him. And that's *after* being stalked and witnessing his love be hit by a car, and the guilt from that. Now he's got a new life where he's dealing with sudden severe pain and being fucking stalked again. Dude has so much fucking trauma. Did he do a Stupid just now? Yup. But there's no way he's in his right mind after all that.

    Sek-ssi July 24, 2024 8:08 pm

    Literally like??? Everyone calling him dumb and hating him in the comments for doing one bad things as if his entire life hasn't been a shit show since he was born? The victim blaming is off the charts here....the same kinda ppl who will forgive any criminal seme for their "sad childhood" but still blame the uke for falling for them... like this dude is allowed to make mistakes he's allowed to be traumatized and not know how to deal with the insane situation he's in, pretending any human in his position would deal with it "normally" is the actual stupidity when the situation itself is nowhere near "normal"...

    ope1965 July 24, 2024 8:24 pm
    Literally like??? Everyone calling him dumb and hating him in the comments for doing one bad things as if his entire life hasn't been a shit show since he was born? The victim blaming is off the charts here....... Sek-ssi

    Honestly when it comes to shit like this I really blame the writer. They intentionally paint the asshole semes/red and black flags like they're redeemable, and continually downplay trauma and traumatic events usually forced on the uke which would honestly probably give real people PTSD. I get that it's fiction, but there's a limit to suspension of disbelief. If they're a regular ol' human and the story is meant to be taken seriously as a narrative (as opposed to something like pure smut which you leave your brain at the door for), their brains still function like ours do, so it has to be realistic at least to a believable degree. Some of these writers make me wonder if they've ever even met a human lmao.

    ☂WooSanShipper☂ July 24, 2024 11:08 pm

    Finally comments I can agree with (/TДT)/

    Sek-ssi July 25, 2024 4:28 am
    Honestly when it comes to shit like this I really blame the writer. They intentionally paint the asshole semes/red and black flags like they're redeemable, and continually downplay trauma and traumatic events u... ope1965

    I definitely agree with your point, most authors don't even acknowledge hardly anything that happens to the uke and 90% of the time even when the uke gets raped they're the ones apologizing to the seme for "cheating" it's a total mindfuck.

    However in this case I'd say she's done a fine job of showing the uke is not right in the head directly because of the various traumas he's going through, we see him getting overly anxious and paranoid as it goes on which is normal! Hes not being "dumb" like the other comments are saying cuz like no shit what else can be do? like he can't even trust his own feelings know what actions to take, what information to trust, the his past or now present or his previous future, anytime he does something he gets those physical attacks so he doesnt even know the scope of how much he can stray from reliving his already traumatic past while trying to "fix" it, there is a lot going on and I think like most humans while you're going through the thing you are mostly just confused because unless you're actively seeking help like therapy or something most ppl don't fully understand the full extent of just how much xyz situations are effecting them mentally and physically, in the moment you are just trying to survive and somehow make the best decision with the information you have and what feels right with an already compromised pysche

    Like even in other books where there really isn't a problem but the ukes just written to be annoyingly indecisive they're just in constant thought bubbles which while true for an overthinker I'd say is usually due to bad writing

    But again here it does make sense that he'd think for four paragraphs because saying a line to anyone cuz he's in a situation where he genuinely doesn't know what's the "right" thing to do

    Even with the relationships it's clear that he deep down understands he's been tied to these dudes due to his guilt of what's happened in the past and present which again that situation wasn't even his fault, having a stalker alone would've been enough to mess him up this bad but then he's got all this other crap to deal with

    He can't choose between them cuz he's genuinely not even with them because he "loves" them its because he has no choice but to be with them due to xyz reasons and in his mind rn the only way to free them and himself is somehow preventing the accident and then finally allowing himself to actually ask himself how does he actually feel about these two guys without all this other baggage and if he can even separate all the positive/negative feelings that developed in the years after if he has to continue living in this timeline


    It's a lot to deal with and while he may be a fictional character, I feel we can still allow him some grace

ope1965 July 24, 2024 9:11 am

Jae-Pil went to jail???? (I kid, I kid)
SO glad to see more from the Double Trap person/people...I'm a bit nervous tho. DT got dark but it was still ultimately wholesome, which is what I loved about it. This...doesn't seem to have room for wholesome. soooo I guess we'll see lol

ope1965 July 24, 2024 8:52 am

honestly I'm invested
sure, it's got some tropey parts (honestly what manhwa doesn't tho...) but I really like the character designs, the art's decent (if not a bit reliant on 3D assets which makes it look a bit unnatural, but it's not SUPER distracting), and the fact that the alpha is snipped is SO refreshing holy shit
hoping for puppy seme (and there's some evidence we might get that??) as a counterpoint to the anxious uke
ty to the awesome translator/uploader, please keep feeding us ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

ope1965 July 24, 2024 8:36 am

hahahaha I love the bratty uke he's adorable
also hoping the beta stays a beta. betaxomega is pretty rare iirc and this is cute af so far so I have high hopes
the one time you can choose the bear AND the man lmfao

    ChickenButt July 26, 2024 1:31 pm

    I don’t see how they’d last if Omega still reacts to other alphas pheromones. I’ve never seen a beta and omega together. What if omega reacts to another alpha and has sex/is assaulted while dating beta who can’t really help with his pheromones?

ope1965 July 23, 2024 8:17 am

Meh. Dumb and *so incredibly cliche* holy fuck. This isn't even misunderstanding level, this is grown-ass adults being written extremely childishly. Trauma, r@pe, outright refusal to communicate, all thrown around indiscriminately like it was written by someone who's never left their room.
I managed to get through season 1 but I won't be coming back for season 2. If you don't mind immature writing and cliches, then it's at least entertaining enough to waste some time with.

ope1965 July 23, 2024 1:09 am

oh no, this is gonna be bad (referring to the end of ch14)

ope1965 July 22, 2024 11:21 pm

Eugene's an asshole but he's like...a yellow/orange flag at most. It's actually not terrible. I don't do 'redeeming' black or full on red flags bc to me there's no redeeming those people in the context of being able to have a relationship with people they abused. They just need to go far away. But Eugene isn't *abusive* per se, he's just a dick lmao. So I can see him softening up and becoming a decent person and it'll make sense while also feeling satisfying. So watching him be an asshole is fun knowing the inevitable chasing/simp arc is probably coming. Just hope hs doesn't cross over into full on red flag territory before thennnnn

    Phime July 23, 2024 1:03 am

    My thing is, he's not yet said no to any of it. They're both jerks to eachother honestly, but it's in a way that I wouldn't be surprised if it was a massive series of misunderstandings, assumptions and implications.

    ope1965 July 23, 2024 1:14 am
    My thing is, he's not yet said no to any of it. They're both jerks to eachother honestly, but it's in a way that I wouldn't be surprised if it was a massive series of misunderstandings, assumptions and implicat... Phime

    well....there is the power imbalance of if Chaewoo says no or whatever, there's the possibility in his mind that Eugene could pull the contract. IIRC Chaewoo didn't say anything about there being penalties *on the family's side* for cancelling. We *do* know there are penalties for Chaewoo. So he could feel financially beholden and pressured not to say no.

    Phime July 23, 2024 3:14 am

    I think any penalties would be of the social variety. Their reputation would be at stake if CW said anything. It is true, but I think that's what makes it a yellow/orange flag whereas if he didn't agree to it, it's would be full on, no issues raised with wether or not it's, rape. Now it's still absolutely dub-con, which I personally constitute as rape, but there could possibly be loopholes of it ever went to court... I mean whether or not this counts as a yes legally. Eg would be screwed if the whole thing saw its way in court cause he broke the contract first. He took advantage of someone in heat, and in our world that would most likely be considered intoxication. That said, he full on blackmailed CW too. So he definitely sucks, but this is friction and he's got lol.

    Rae July 23, 2024 7:35 pm
    I think any penalties would be of the social variety. Their reputation would be at stake if CW said anything. It is true, but I think that's what makes it a yellow/orange flag whereas if he didn't agree to it, ... Phime

    It's so nice to see an actual discussion on these boards for once without it turning into petty name calling (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

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