Vae February 27, 2025 3:45 pm

I really got used to the idea Ha Seo-eung being mercilles bitch-queen's minion. So now I need some time to digest his betrayal. It was quite fast though, but ok he cherished Kang so it hit him hard to know the truth. I really didn't expect HIM to start working with the prince. My guess was one of the maids, or a few of them.

I also felt a little uneasy when Seo-eung recalled he "noticed Kang's smile wasn't meant for him" and then said "you can call it dirty feelings, I don't care". Maybe I overreacted at first but he was speaking about 9? 10? year's old being an adult. And it happened around 10 years ago or more? So why even bringing "dirtiness" up?;o Just saying he loved, cherished him would've been enough. As sworn brothers wasn't that strange concept at that time. + Kang was such a cute kid, him playing with a cat<3

Lastly, our cute bundle Nok was very sexy and strong-willed again (●'◡'●)ノ I reread his bio and he doesn't like cold (I've forgotten). So I'm guessin that's why he wears a lot of layers now :3

    Daisy February 27, 2025 4:26 pm

    wait what exactly did he mean by the "dirty feelings" part? cause the way I interpret is something like he's acknowledging it that he was in love with kang when they were kids but to an outsider it'd feel disgusting ?? welp thats what my thought process said. also where can I check their bios

    Vae February 27, 2025 4:59 pm

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    Just this converstation took a wrong turn in that moment imo^^'' I don't think anyone could feel disgusted by what was said prior, how he cared for Kang and wanted to help him and make him happy. But sadly noticed Kang likes Chaehui...
    Bios are in the creator's notes after the first special episode. When the s1 ended :) Just before season 2.

    Daisy February 27, 2025 5:51 pm

    ohh I get what you mean now. well we def know our characters won't but ig had there be some other person like the so called childhood friend, then ig what seoeung said would make sense. ig he's too devasted to actually keep mind of that ? idk.

    now I wonder if and how will the author give closure to kang's story cause i do wish seoeung would be able to talk to him once atleast. can't even imagine the guilt he'd be feeling for ever introducing them.
    thankuu imma go re read both the notes super soon!!

    Vae February 27, 2025 9:08 pm

    Wasn't Ha Seo-eung responsible for keeping and starving those children though?:O I can't bring myself to sympathise with him.

    Hmm wouldn't Kang be angry for harming Chaehui? So Seo-eung would suffer doubly, one from the guilt of bringing cruel death to Kang and second from his anger. I just hope Kang wouldn't try to stop them :O

    Btw. You know we are on hiatus next week, right? ┗( T﹏T )┛

    Deedee February 27, 2025 10:24 pm
    Wasn't Ha Seo-eung responsible for keeping and starving those children though?:O I can't bring myself to sympathise with him.Hmm wouldn't Kang be angry for harming Chaehui? So Seo-eung would suffer doubly, one ... Vae

    I think Ha Seo-eung not only was responsible for starving the children but he was also involved for most of the queen's crimes. Remember the starving ghost and his pregnant wife? He had a role there too since his name was mentioned at some point. He needs closure and then go roast in hell.

    I also agree with you about feeling uneasy at some point during this chapter. The author could've at least make them teenagers which may explain the love feelings and the blushing but they were literally kids :// Doesn't really make sense imo... although I do recall falling for my classmate when I was 7yo and being completely paralyzed by the simple thought of talking to him lol Maybe it's not that uncommon after all xD

    Vae February 27, 2025 11:22 pm

    Huge edit: I've just found out the scans I saw previously was missing a few panels... Not a trustworthy source, goddammit...

    Thus it looks like he didn't even know the queen makes maehyung? And looking for Jongdal's name I've found the moment when he noticed the queen "he gathered the children" and she dismisses him. Therefore he might not know they were locked. On the other hand he looks rather insular so I can believe he didn't bother thinking WHY the queen needs small children.

    *high five* Deedee. Even "dating" can happen at such age now, but ofc it's more like playing or role playingXD
    Seo-eung was 2 years older and later even got engaged so I assume he might've been 12 when Kang died. And knowing at that times children were pushed to mature quickly it's believable his feelings were slightly heavier, more serious even, but still pure (!).
    That's why making it sound illicit and filthy seems so off.

Vae February 20, 2025 5:38 pm

And it hit me Jeongyeom locked Dongim so he won't go whoring again. Not that it's reasonable this way, but previously I thought he planned it shortly after the killing. But it was his response to Dongim almost fucking with some other guy. And he prepared everything so Jeongyeom will see it.

    QueenChan February 20, 2025 10:09 pm

    And Dongnim keeps trying to fuck other people as revenge for Jeongyeom killing his parents.

    I kind of missed the first time around, but him wearing his mom's bloody jewelry hairpin while he tried to revenge fuck the first time was a clear fuck you to Jeongyeom.

    Dongim probably enjoyed being the future head of household and looking down on Jeongyeom. He's been training his whole life for that.

    QueenChan February 20, 2025 10:10 pm

    Oh shoot, I think I just took longer to say what you just said.

    Vae February 20, 2025 11:24 pm

    Yep, and his revenge fuck scheme doesn't subside over the years. The first one after the funeral -> resulted in him getting locked; and after 5 years he still bites a servant to shatter Jeongyeom.

    Dongim was sitting and looking and that hairpin for some time, do you think he was grieving? Actually I don't really get why did he wear it for revenge fuck:/ It's not really that Jeongyeom holds any feelings toward that object or its previous owner...

    QueenChan February 20, 2025 11:43 pm
    Yep, and his revenge fuck scheme doesn't subside over the years. The first one after the funeral -> resulted in him getting locked; and after 5 years he still bites a servant to shatter Jeongyeom.Dongim was ... Vae

    I assumed it was just a visual taunt of look at the evidence of what I just found. This is why I'm punishing you.

    QueenChan February 20, 2025 11:43 pm
    Yep, and his revenge fuck scheme doesn't subside over the years. The first one after the funeral -> resulted in him getting locked; and after 5 years he still bites a servant to shatter Jeongyeom.Dongim was ... Vae

    Basically to be more dramatic I thinkm

    Vae February 21, 2025 2:22 pm
    I assumed it was just a visual taunt of look at the evidence of what I just found. This is why I'm punishing you. QueenChan

    Vaild.

Vae February 20, 2025 2:01 pm

I knew it I knew it, Nok will help this poor child (we don't even know his name, do we?) his half-brother. And ofc he can understand Kang's feelings, although I tought he will or even try to convince him.
And how sexy Nok was this whole chapter(≧∀≦) I can't...
And cute with his winter hat <3
But the cliffhanger?!(⊙…⊙ )

    Deedee February 20, 2025 3:15 pm

    Nok in winter outfits is the cutest thing! His little boots! Cuteness overload lol I love how he's getting more confident and even Jaeshin seems to follow along. I hope they get the informations they're looking for out of that criminal. Also do you know why his half-brother looked so terrified? oO

    Vae February 20, 2025 3:58 pm
    Nok in winter outfits is the cutest thing! His little boots! Cuteness overload lol I love how he's getting more confident and even Jaeshin seems to follow along. I hope they get the informations they're looking... Deedee

    Yes the boots :D And in winter even Jaeshin wears some shoes;)
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    Cuteness<3 but he was the adult in this chapter ;3 Jaeshin: if not for the reverse curse I'd have killed him on the spot (poor Agwi/Kang) But Nok? "I think I can understand him(...) he was small child at that time too". It seems Nok by nature can empathise with others or at least always try to. He immediately noticed frightened daegun (half-brother's title) and acts accordingly.

    As for why was he so scared? I guess he's always in such state... Every time we see him he gets frightened after meeting bitch-queen. So maybe he just came out of her den?
    Another thing comes to my mind: we just have learned his "role". The bitch-queen has made him human-talisman to ward evil off, maybe he sees all those ghost's or even gets haunted by them as Nok was?

    Vae February 20, 2025 6:11 pm

    Ha Seo-eung first mentioned was in ch 29 - I just thought of checking that moment at the tavern and bingo :D
    So he's "from the family of the royal secretary's in-laws" (bitch-queen's brother) and he distributed letters/posters which slandered the crown prince to young boys.

    Deedee February 20, 2025 8:14 pm
    Yes the boots :D And in winter even Jaeshin wears some shoes;)....Cuteness<3 but he was the adult in this chapter ;3 Jaeshin: if not for the reverse curse I'd have killed him on the spot (poor Agwi/Kang) But... Vae

    Thanks for the informations. I really thought the bitch queen loved her son in S1. We've seen her genuinely taking care of him when he was sick and weak. In this season, her full evil nature is exposed. It's terrible if she uses her own son as a talisman. That poor kid looks on the verge of dying every time we see him. I am sure Nok will save him as you said above :)) And yeah, Nok's leadership attributes are a delight to watch. Jaeshin must be secretly proud hihi

    Vae February 20, 2025 8:45 pm

    YW :)
    Btw have you seen Desire/Lust has an official translation? I was so late to notice itXD

    Deedee February 20, 2025 9:22 pm
    YW :)Btw have you seen Desire/Lust has an official translation? I was so late to notice itXD Vae

    Nope I haven't! I am gonna check it out. The art is gorgeous but the storyline is not really my cup of tea ://

    Vae February 20, 2025 11:33 pm
    Nope I haven't! I am gonna check it out. The art is gorgeous but the storyline is not really my cup of tea :// Deedee

    I get what you mean. For most of the time I wasn't sure what it is about^^'' We just got too few details, of the plot ofc ;D Summary from Moonflowergem was very helpful though, and after rereading a few times I kinda sorted it out. It's dark and twisted, nothing one would read comfortably.

    Daisy February 21, 2025 2:00 am

    waaah I finally got to read the new chapter. guys guys I feel like it's a foreshadowing that nok will finally find out about how he can see ghosts cause of jaeshin. atleast in a few chapters im guessing ?? do we know exactly when the bitch got possessed cause I've been thinking that if it has been since she was a child , then that would explain her derange behavior since then. or maybe she was always evil so the ghost latched onto her.

    and about nok in winter clothes. DO you guys remember the scene where they encounter the burnt face man and there's a full length panel of nok. he was looking so pocket sized . my cutieee >_<

    Daisy February 21, 2025 2:04 am
    YW :)Btw have you seen Desire/Lust has an official translation? I was so late to notice itXD Vae

    does it give more clarity on the story than the other translation? ig I'll read it then someday when I'll have the mental stability to handle that story again. it gets overwhelming reading it all at once

    Vae February 21, 2025 3:18 pm
    waaah I finally got to read the new chapter. guys guys I feel like it's a foreshadowing that nok will finally find out about how he can see ghosts cause of jaeshin. atleast in a few chapters im guessing ?? do w... Daisy

    I missed you yesterday, Daisy<3
    My wild mind even thought that the great evil somehow brought Nok to the afterworld, as it wants Nok's soul. About Jaeshin's involvement I feel like only Jaeshin can tell him, and he won't. Even if Nok will learn about it, he won't care that much. However imo it's more dangerous for him to know WHY Jaeshin approached him, that he deliberately wanted to win his heart. I kinda wait for this moment, to be honest.
    Recently I was mulling over the bitch's situation. What are her own actions and what are the evil's, because, esp when she's mad, the evil seems to speak through her. We don't know much, just that she was able to see ghosts from very young age. And actually now we know she was gathering hmm soul's she could use later? Did she just find it "fun", or was it that great evil which egged her? The exact moment of their encounter is unknown. For sure she could see evil spirits and they lingered around her from when she was a child - 8 ep, Yeom's story.

    The one with a bigger silhouette? Pocket sized - well said <3 Maybe it's the winter hat which increases cuteness? :3 *trying to imagine Jaeshin wearing it...*

    Vae February 21, 2025 3:28 pm
    does it give more clarity on the story than the other translation? ig I'll read it then someday when I'll have the mental stability to handle that story again. it gets overwhelming reading it all at once Daisy

    Hmm if you read Moonflowergem translation and their summary at the end I don't think the official one clarifies more. It's just every time I read it I notice smth else. Like with The Little Prince? ;D Not my fav but I often heard/read ppl saying how they love the book and every time they read it they discover various things.
    -> I guess every sane person would be left speechless after seeing my comparision ;D
    I regret we weren't given many details in the story and that Jeongyeom looks like a brainless underdeveloped meathead ︶︿︶

    Daisy February 21, 2025 5:52 pm
    I missed you yesterday, Daisy<3My wild mind even thought that the great evil somehow brought Nok to the afterworld, as it wants Nok's soul. About Jaeshin's involvement I feel like only Jaeshin can tell him, ... Vae

    i CANNOT bear to think of the day when nok will find out about jaeshin's initial plan. I don't think I'll be able to handle anymore angst in regards to their relationship. hopefully they'd communicate well when the time comes.

    (my another nightmare atm is the feeling i get about us approaching a potential season finale in a few weeks)
    also ive thought about it too. as if , the grim reapers (hopefully thats who they are) really did mistakenly took nok or was there something else at play.
    also although she's despicable, i cannot help but be in awe of how well the queen's character has been written at being a complete evil bitch. she's so fun to analyze like you'd feel there's so many layers to that character but also at the same time she could actually turn out to be just plain deranged without any explanation but it'd still make sense.

    don't give me ideas but i hope we'll see more of them in winter clothing in the coming chaps. also id sacrifice whatever if it'd get us their modern au winter outfit looks from the artist or smth. it's def the hats !! and also the sleeves cover his hands entirely making him look like a fluffy bundle.

    Deedee February 21, 2025 6:20 pm
    I missed you yesterday, Daisy<3My wild mind even thought that the great evil somehow brought Nok to the afterworld, as it wants Nok's soul. About Jaeshin's involvement I feel like only Jaeshin can tell him, ... Vae

    I haven't thought at all about Nok discovering Jeashin's plan to win a human heart! That will definitely upset him and it could be a reason for a short break between them. I still can't imagine Jaeshin taking his distance. He's way too obsessed and unreasonable to give some space to Nok. We'll see.

    Daisy, I don't remember which chapter exactly but Jeashin told Nok that the bitch queen attracts the worst demons because she is cruel and evil in the first place. So she's not a victim by any mean I guess ://

    Vae February 21, 2025 7:08 pm

    Oh yeah the most I fear end of the season or end of the story ┗( T﹏T )┛

    I think it's just there's no badly written character here. (*cough* don't mention that part where Nok went quite fast to loving his rapist *cough* and making it slower wouldn't be that helpful...)

    Deedee, I think bitch-queen might tell this to Nok. However Jaeshin won't ever distance himself from him. Remember when he lately said "there's no use in hating me again", "even if you'll regret giving your heart to me, I'm yours"? So I believe even if Nok's hurt from knowing the truth and say "go away", Jaeshin will still linger in the vicinity.
    I agree Chaehui is not a victim. However she still is getting used by that evil and at least some punishment awaits her.

Vae February 13, 2025 6:39 pm

At first a possible punishment for Kyeongjun has lighten me up. But I got it all wrong and it's not about his son (⌒▽⌒)
The bitch-queen brother takes some notes about him (yeah Kyeongjun). But only ask: did you write it "there". I have no idae WHERE could it be.
And does anyone know who byeongpan (ministry of war?) is? BQB (bitch queen bro) schemes to "have this >>person he really hates or dislikes and who is always an eyesore<< under his shoe". ---> I couldn't stop myself from pasting the whole definition I've found XD
Ooooh, it can be Kyeongjun's father! It makes sense now, but it's only a guess. BQB gathers dirts on KJ to blackmail his father in the future.

    Daisy February 13, 2025 7:19 pm

    wait who's kyeongjun? the childhood friend? (im so bad with names of useless characters)
    also I'm starting to think the bitch queen is just a full on psychopath ever since she was a kid.my heart goes out to the kid ghost

    Vae February 13, 2025 7:35 pm
    wait who's kyeongjun? the childhood friend? (im so bad with names of useless characters) also I'm starting to think the bitch queen is just a full on psychopath ever since she was a kid.my heart goes out to the... Daisy

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    Yes, it's the fake childhood companion, whom we hate to the core ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
    I wonder too, what's her natural "state of mind" and what's triggered by the great evil.

    Poor, cute child, but Houston we have a problem - agwi doesn't want to take revenge. [Jaeshin was so hot on the panel when he asked that (=・ω・=)]
    Without his help they can't reverse the curse.
    And don't you think Nok looked more mature this time?

    Daisy February 13, 2025 9:40 pm

    there was something really heartwrenching about that. cause even though he ended up losing his life cause of her, he refused to take revenge. I wonder if jaeshin will be able to persuade him tho.
    (althought somewhere deep down in my gut I have a feeling he won't be able to/or want to after a trying a certain while cause of the whole "wanting to not get the person you love being hurt" thing.and since jaeshin feels the same for nok he'll just leave agwi be??
    also for the fact i don't really feel the bitch would go down this easily and fast so.. you get the point)


    also yes I've been loving how nok has been looking more mature as the chapters progress . there's just something about the character that seems to be getting more authoritative with time idk. not that he wasn't before , but I've been getting some of that vibes from him ( or maybe it's just my wishful thinking. but id sacrifice anything in my hands to see him use his power against the fake ass friend and queen)

    Daisy February 13, 2025 9:42 pm
    ....Yes, it's the fake childhood companion, whom we hate to the core ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭I wonder too, what's her natural "state of mind" and what's triggered by the great evil.Poor, cute child, but Houston we hav... Vae

    ngl id let nok abuse his authority just this once against them. i support his rights and most importantly his wrongs

    Deedee February 13, 2025 10:35 pm

    Thanks dear Vae for the now recurrent -spoilers- post :)) It's a delight to come in here discuss the latest release each time. I honestly wasn't expecting the child ghost's story to be dealt with so fast. It felt kinda rushed but then the author surprised us with that unexpected turn of events. I don't know how Jaeshin can convince the child to get revenge. I guess he won't manage to cuz the queen's story is not ending anytime soon :///

    And yes, Nok looked more mature this chapter. Something to do with the hair maybe? I like it better this way

    Vae February 14, 2025 12:24 pm

    Daisy, yes! "authority" that's the word! I'd add "commanding" too ;] I don't think Nok would have to abuse his power, it'll be enough for him to be righful and merciless.
    Hm, you think Jaeshin can understand it? I doubt so very much XD Actually that part of not wanting revenge could've only fit to a naive and pure child. It's very well planned by the authors.
    Jaeshin could try to convince agwi (or Kang, we should say) the queen is possessed and needs help, only he can do it by helping to kill her - however not very convincing the plot's progression.

    Deedee, I also can't wait for our weekly (debating) spoiler club meeting :D
    And don't make such face - the queen's death means the end of Gwiyagok :(
    I think this time they won't make the reverse curse on time.

    I was rereading a little last night and a few chapters ago we wondered why she sent the ghost to kill Nok. At some point (ch77) she said smth like "I don't care about the soul, I only care about the vessel". So the child's ghost which recently almost killed Nok, had to "suck out his soul" and give it to the great evil, the body is the queen's. That's the deal. But why is she waiting so long finish her plan? Did she want Nok to be more grown-up?
    Also the queen confirmed, once the third curse backfires, she's done.

    I think it's the face. Just sometimes C.R Jade draws it a little differently. That's why I wine when Nok looks more childish than in the beginning XD And partially his loose hair <3

    Vae February 14, 2025 12:50 pm

    Ha Seo Ung, the burned face.
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    What do we know about the guy? He appears more often lately. I think we should remember his name.
    A summary from me: he's the queen's lackey from the very old times. In ch86 young Chaehui said "Seo Ung was right" when she approached Kang (Agwi). So he's helping with finding possible victims, and making them evil ghosts.
    He showed up in Jeong Dal's house right before his "disappearance", by the well when Kang was killed. He gathered and locked (I guess managed the whole case) those 9 children, who were starved and made to kill each other. Maybe he's the one who killed the last one in such brutal way...
    Am I missing anything? Was there any fire mentioned? Have wee seen him in the 1st or 2nd season?

    Daisy February 14, 2025 1:28 pm

    I desperately need to re-read the last few chapters again cause I've no recollection of that man tbh. hope I get the time for that soon.
    let's see what our jaeshin is gonna do things are not looking easy for our boy (≧ヘ≦ )

    also DeeDee is so right for this I rush back here every time a new chapter is supposed to drop looking for Vae's spoiler topic

    Vae February 14, 2025 2:36 pm
    I desperately need to re-read the last few chapters again cause I've no recollection of that man tbh. hope I get the time for that soon. let's see what our jaeshin is gonna do things are not looking easy for ou... Daisy

    (=・ω・=)

    akane006 February 18, 2025 12:37 am

    Guys, I appreciated your discussion so much! I didn't know you do this every chap! I'll pay more attention from now on!

    Vae February 18, 2025 4:44 pm
    Guys, I appreciated your discussion so much! I didn't know you do this every chap! I'll pay more attention from now on! akane006

    You're very welcomed :) Let's share our opinions, the more the merrier.
    The new Korean chapter is published every Thursday (with 1 week hiatus every 5 weeks), that's when we gather here. And on Saturday's English update we get flooded with new topics ;)

Vae February 14, 2025 3:12 pm

is making fun of us. To put in Jaeshin's mouths:
Doesn't he know he should be worried for his own ass?

    Daisy February 13, 2025 3:43 pm

    Vaeee when does the new episode comes out?

    Daisy February 13, 2025 3:56 pm

    ohh my i got it . nok was looking so pretty ive no words to say. and the story is speeding up it's making me anxious

    Vae February 13, 2025 4:05 pm
    Vaeee when does the new episode comes out? Daisy

    I don't know your time zone:D In Korea it's 18 or 19, resp. 6pm or 7pm ;)
    Fun fact: this time my topic was about ch 80:D In 86 there're so many dialogues. I still didn't finish it. But how Jaeshin looked! omfg... And I was surprised seeing Nok with brown eyes - I guess it's bc it was realtively dark but still. It's not really a spoiler so I've written it here.

    Daisy February 13, 2025 4:13 pm

    uh huh . I just saw the raws and translated very lightly through them. let me know when you read it. both of them looked absolutely stunning!! nok with undone hair in this chapter especially.

    ps. you're so true for that ass dialogue i was taken aback reading that too

    Vae February 13, 2025 5:19 pm
    uh huh . I just saw the raws and translated very lightly through them. let me know when you read it. both of them looked absolutely stunning!! nok with undone hair in this chapter especially. ps. you're so true... Daisy

    Ok, I've briefly machine translated it. We can start a new topic full of spoilers ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
    Now I want to focus on the part with Kyeongjun.

    Daisy February 13, 2025 5:39 pm
    Ok, I've briefly machine translated it. We can start a new topic full of spoilers ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶Now I want to focus on the part with Kyeongjun. Vae

    omg yess lets go!!!

    Vae February 13, 2025 6:09 pm

    Ok, I went to those bubbles (in chapter 80). There's absolutely NOTHING about ass. Nor "his own lover". Actually this part seems totally different... I've checked with Chinese version too, and Vietnamese (●'◡'●)ノ
    So I would say it went like this (divided like bubbles):
    - He has his own problems...
    - Even so, he wants to take all of the world's worries on himself?
    - He just should stay by my side as he wish, and say it's impossible without me.
    - At any rate not knowing others' minds (I guess "feelings" works here too), always saying the right/proper words easily...

    Vae February 13, 2025 6:13 pm
    Ok, I went to those bubbles (in chapter 80). There's absolutely NOTHING about ass. Nor "his own lover". Actually this part seems totally different... I've checked with Chinese version too, and Vietnamese (●... Vae

    Edit: - He just should stay by my side as I wish, and say it's impossible without me.

    I wasn't sure whose wish was that^^' It was a tough monologue to translate.

    Vae February 14, 2025 3:30 pm

    Shit, I didn't know all the replies are deleted if I edit the topic post (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸
    My bad so I'll write again what I think Jaeshin's said there. As bubbles go:
    - He has his own problems...
    - Even so, he wants to shoulder all of the world's worries?
    - He should just stay by my side, as I wish, saying it's impossible without me.
    - Anyhow, he's clueless about other people's minds ("feelings" could work here too I guess) always saying the right/proper things easily...

    Vae February 14, 2025 3:33 pm

    Lool, it didn't?XD I don't know how this site works...

Vae February 8, 2025 9:09 am

July 1999, what came to people was not the end of the world, but superpowers?!
Thanks to this, the 21st century has become an era where heroes and villains clash. The lonely villain Pyeonghwa encounters the hero Sarang while on the run.
In a tense situation, Sarang suddenly proposes to Pyeonghwa with a ring…

A love story unfolds between Sarang and a Benz with a broken steering wheel, who lives in their own pure love comic.


*Especially the last sentence is intriguing(▰˘◡˘▰)

Vae February 6, 2025 2:59 pm

So for how long exactly Jaeshin was inside? XD
But we got our cuddling session, right Deedee?;)
And the art is back on track, no more whining from me(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Daisy February 7, 2025 4:00 am

    omg yes . the art's and proportions look so much better than the last chapter

    Vae February 8, 2025 9:07 am
    omg yes . the art's and proportions look so much better than the last chapter Daisy

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    You think Jaeshin will prepare a special death or torture for Han Chaehui? Smth that would satisfy us? Yeom's saying only one more reversed curse will be enough, but Jaeshin disagrees on that one. Still he has to watch out not to be the one who kills her.

    Deedee February 8, 2025 5:15 pm
    .....You think Jaeshin will prepare a special death or torture for Han Chaehui? Smth that would satisfy us? Yeom's saying only one more reversed curse will be enough, but Jaeshin disagrees on that one. Still he... Vae

    Yes we did have our cuddling scene hihi! I love it so much when Jaeshin is out for blood. Although he may take some unnecessary risks and mess things up but that's the thrilling part I guess :))))

    Daisy February 8, 2025 6:21 pm
    .....You think Jaeshin will prepare a special death or torture for Han Chaehui? Smth that would satisfy us? Yeom's saying only one more reversed curse will be enough, but Jaeshin disagrees on that one. Still he... Vae

    oh I bet he'll make sure of that. he may not (hopefully cause that'll cause problems for him) actually kill her but i agree with the torture part. also can I just say I was so relieved to see yeom still around after how the last chapter w her was. although yeoman looks a bit haggard than before ig?

Vae February 6, 2025 11:44 am

Sorry for the clickbaitXD ofc there's none, but my sick mind - and I mean it, I'm down with a cold - thought of possible lead actors to such adaptation. And normally possible casts never cross my mind, it doesn't matter if it's books, novels, mangas/hwas/huas. But 2 days ago it DID.
So: Kim Woo Bin as Jaeshin:
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He can be scary, mischievous and cute. Recently he's long hair.

Luo Yun Xi as Nok:
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Perfect for an aloof, reserved crown prince. Beautiful with a killer smile.

Both are great actors. But my only qualm is - do they look good together?? Luo Yun Xi is super skinny, I wonder if he'd like to gain weight to the role. Not to mention one is Korean and the other is Chinese. Seems perfect but maybe not to the same adaptationXD

    Deedee February 8, 2025 5:20 pm

    I wish I could give some alternatives but I'm not into kdrama and korean actors. I like your choice for Jaeshin but Nok a bit less. I would pick someone who looks a bit more androgynous ^^

    Vae February 13, 2025 2:38 pm
    I wish I could give some alternatives but I'm not into kdrama and korean actors. I like your choice for Jaeshin but Nok a bit less. I would pick someone who looks a bit more androgynous ^^ Deedee

    Thank you Deedee, only you bothered with replying :3
    Interesting idea. I do agree that Luo Yun Xi's feature are maybe a little bit too sharp. However I'd like the actor to not look too feminine.

Vae January 30, 2025 2:33 pm

I'm surprised Nok was in the mood, I wasn't, kinda... Still it was hot *thumb up* Despite ridiculous size - or maybe it's hard to see
bc of the censorship? - while Nok seems to shrank?
But never mind. I'm extremly satisfied how Jaeshin's character (finally) and the story have unfurled.

However this time the changes in art style really hit me. From time to time I tend to whine a little ab it and now's the time. Sorry in advance ;)
On that big Jaeshin's panel (when he asks if he should pull out) he looks so pretty and kinda girly to me... Another panel with Nok (right before the kiss) seems a little off too - I can't describe with what exactly I'm not satisfied though. It's just like the quality has slightly declined. Does anyone share my impressions?

Still their face expressions were top-notch as always :]

    Deedee January 30, 2025 6:42 pm

    I honestly think the sex scene was unnecessary. The whole chapter looked off maybe once I read the English version it will make sense somehow but I doubt it. They could've just cuddled and it would have been perfect :,) As for the art style, my impression is that the face features are sharper and that what maybe makes them look a bit different. Surprisingly I feel like the quality of the drawings increased and not the opposite. Funny how we we see things differently lol

    Quishi January 30, 2025 6:52 pm

    Cr jade had an accident where she hurt her wrist, maybe that’s why it looks different?

    I don’t really see the changes tbh and the art is still the best from all the manhuas ive ever read..

    Daisy January 31, 2025 4:04 am

    no cause there were some panels where the proportions seemed a bit off to me as well. one being after when jaeshin says "even if you regret giving your heart to me.. I'm yours nok" there's a panel where the hand portion looked a bit awkward.

    ig it's cause of the artist's accident so hopefully it gets better with future chapters

    Vae January 31, 2025 10:50 am

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    Deedee, I too thought they'll just cuddle XD And then there'll be some plot...

    Quishi, maybe it's the last chapter she drew before the hiatus? That would make sense.
    And ofc TGN has the best art of all times. It's top 1 and there's nothing for a loong time after it :)

    Daisy, I know what you mean, but doesn't it caused by horrendously wide Jaeshin's shoulders? And the move - on another panel Nok's fingers look scrawny as if they're just bones.
    I don't think there's a need to make Jaeshin even more bulky as well as enlarge his penis - I prefer when proportions aren't that much unbelievable. I know it's a fiction and I don't mind some well drawn muscles (●'◡'●) but let's leave (or keep?) body proportions on one level.

    I think I've figured it out what's keeping bugging me. Nok's face and his expressions look very similar to their second night - when Nok was drunk and it's a terrifying blatant rape. Same position also. And I knooow it's different situation, and Nok's desperate bc of the ghost. But when his face looks so alike... I can't help it and recall.
    Not long ago I've thought Nok's becoming more manly (when he was dressed at least XD) but this time I haven't seen it at all.

    Daisy January 31, 2025 1:09 pm
    ......Deedee, I too thought they'll just cuddle XD And then there'll be some plot...Quishi, maybe it's the last chapter she drew before the hiatus? That would make sense.And ofc TGN has the best art of all time... Vae

    maybe you're right. I don't hope tho that they hust look enlarged cause of the censorship (but then again that wasn't the case in s1) let's see what happens .
    and you're so right about the keeping the proportions realistic cause there were times when I myself felt the same (although it wouldn't be the case with some people so i respect that).

    also one more thing I google translated through the chapter lightly but it did seem to me that maybe jae was gonna tell nok about the past(?) when before he got sidetracked( or maybe that's just my interpretation). do we think that he'll come clean to nok or not ? also is the eng translation still on a hiatus?

    Vae January 31, 2025 7:45 pm
    maybe you're right. I don't hope tho that they hust look enlarged cause of the censorship (but then again that wasn't the case in s1) let's see what happens . and you're so right about the keeping the proportio... Daisy

    I thought so with some recent chapters - when they're out in English it turned out sadly it wasn't the censorship's fault ^^'
    There're many manhwas where characters have shoulders wide as 4 heads or more, and "the third leg" - which looks ridiculous. I really really hope my favourite and the most respected manhwa artist won't go down this road...

    This hiatus should last for 3 weeks. Same as the Korean one.

    Fun fact is that Jaeshin has now 2 things to tell Nok. He still haven't told him all about his curse - and now I think he never even wanted to? He faltered but decided to skip the part with winning human's heart. Maybe he thinks it's not that important?
    And yeah, I agree with you that he wanted to tell him it's his fault that Nok's seeing ghosts. But really, wasn't it the worst possible moment? And def Jaeshin believes Nok will hate him for that.
    I, on the contrary, assume Nok will be magnanimous bc Jaeshin didn't do it on purpose and might even say smth like "I'm glad I've met you".

    I wonder about another thing. If Nok wouldn't see the ghosts (haven't touched anything in the afterworld), what could the queen do to him? Maehyung wouldn't be useless? And the ghosts that were molesting him - he wouldn't even know. As she has send him a really strong one, he might've caused Nok a strange illness or killed him on the spot.

    Daisy January 31, 2025 9:49 pm
    I thought so with some recent chapters - when they're out in English it turned out sadly it wasn't the censorship's fault ^^'There're many manhwas where characters have shoulders wide as 4 heads or more, and "t... Vae

    well the only reason why the queen even got to nok was because the previous empress had to ask for help after nok started seeing the ghosts (if im remembering correctly that is). so we would prob would never have gotten this gem of a work otherwise

    and i do second that nok would forgive/not get mad at jaeshin even if he tells him. hoping we would get that much needed conversation soon tho

    Deedee February 1, 2025 6:55 am

    Guys, are we up for a 3 weeks hiatus?

    Vae February 1, 2025 10:32 am
    well the only reason why the queen even got to nok was because the previous empress had to ask for help after nok started seeing the ghosts (if im remembering correctly that is). so we would prob would never ha... Daisy

    On the other hand Chaehui might've schemed smth else and depose the queen or killed her.
    But that would be interesting if that was the great evil plan from the beginning: firstly make Nok see ghosts (using Jaeshin), then torment him, lastly possess him?

    Vae February 1, 2025 10:34 am
    Guys, are we up for a 3 weeks hiatus? Deedee

    We? Again? Nothing I would know.
    I'm guessing the English hiatus should end today :)

    Deedee February 1, 2025 12:33 pm
    We? Again? Nothing I would know.I'm guessing the English hiatus should end today :) Vae

    So no hiatus expected for the Korean version? Maybe I got confused with another BL

    Vae February 1, 2025 8:30 pm
    So no hiatus expected for the Korean version? Maybe I got confused with another BL Deedee

    We were on hiatus last week :D

    Deedee February 1, 2025 10:21 pm
    We were on hiatus last week :D Vae

    Right xD I am reading way too much BLs recently lol Thanks for keeping me up to date Vae

Vae January 16, 2025 5:00 pm

OMFG what a sick bitch! Firstly she locked those kids, starved them and said the last one standing will be freed. But then she caught that child, gauged his eyes and chopped off his ears, cut his toes and fingers "into pieces"... No wonder the kid's resentment was stronger than Yeom's...
It's only unclear to me why it was the brush. Did Chaehui chose it just bc Nok likes such things or was it really related to the kid (it should I guess).

I need to take a break. All week waiting and so intensive chapter.

Edit: And I've just noticed now both of Jaeshin's hands are clawless

    Deedee January 16, 2025 5:28 pm

    OMG! I came here before actually checking the update cuz I knew it's gonna be intense!! So the kid is indeed from the ones who were locked and starved to death oO This part of the storyline is very dark and the fact it's children makes it kinda gore. Damn, that bitch must go in the most terrible way possible. Except one she finally dies this BL will also come to an end I guess so I am not sure anymore xD Thanks for the spoilers

    Just a regular fujoshi January 16, 2025 9:11 pm

    Hi, hope I'm not bothering you.... Where did you read chapter-83???? It's not showing for me here.... Is it updated????

    Vae January 16, 2025 10:34 pm
    OMG! I came here before actually checking the update cuz I knew it's gonna be intense!! So the kid is indeed from the ones who were locked and starved to death oO This part of the storyline is very dark and the... Deedee

    Yes, you're right :) I definitely don't want the story to end too XD
    My another fav chapter <3 Jaeshin saying sorry, aww X3

    Deedee January 16, 2025 10:45 pm
    Yes, you're right :) I definitely don't want the story to end too XDMy another fav chapter <3 Jaeshin saying sorry, aww X3 Vae

    He said sorry?? Oh I wanna read the translation ASAP! Just from the way he looked shocked and anxious all along made my day. He simply cannot live without Nok anymore. I have a question tho. How come this ghost had the power to hurt Nok? I thought they could simply scare him but nit kill him?

    Vae January 16, 2025 10:45 pm
    Hi, hope I'm not bothering you.... Where did you read chapter-83???? It's not showing for me here.... Is it updated???? Just a regular fujoshi

    Not at all :)
    We roam the through the Internet in order to dig the newest chapters straight out of hell *fire*



    so basically teletype and newtoki ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Vae January 16, 2025 11:07 pm
    He said sorry?? Oh I wanna read the translation ASAP! Just from the way he looked shocked and anxious all along made my day. He simply cannot live without Nok anymore. I have a question tho. How come this ghost... Deedee

    When Nok didn't respond and kept saying "No, I don't want to, go away..." like to the ghost. Jaeshin:
    "Nok-ah. It's my fault. I... came too late. I should've found you sooner. Because of me... Nok, I..."
    Nok: "... why did you come now? You've said... you'll come back early"
    Jaeshin: "I'm sorry... I'm sorry."

    I guess Jeshin kinda apologises that it's all his fault that Nok sees ghosts. But I doubt he'll ever vocalise it^^'

    Hmm why did you think the ghost can't harm him? They tormented him (the trio) and molested him (the others) and it was escalating. This ghost might've been strong enough to come despite the guardian tree, when Nok made some noise. And maybe Han Chaehui has prepared a special way to kill Nok :O Just like she's doing with others.
    However... if this ghost would've successfully gauged Nok's eyes, wouldn't it sullied his face? As she wants "just that face". I don't knowXD

    Deedee January 17, 2025 12:47 am
    When Nok didn't respond and kept saying "No, I don't want to, go away..." like to the ghost. Jaeshin: "Nok-ah. It's my fault. I... came too late. I should've found you sooner. Because of me... Nok, I..."Nok: "... Vae

    Your last paragraph sent chills down my spine! Luckily Jaeshin arrived right on time to help Nok. I guess you're right these new ghosts have more power than the original ones and can do more than simply mess with Nok. It looked like this one had the power to kill him and that's why I was so confused. Even Jaeshin's reaction was as intense as the one he had when he saved Nik from being killed last season.

    Thanks for the translation I wonder what could be Nok's reaction when he finally learns the truth about his spirit eye. Since it wasn't intentional from Jaeshin I don't think Nok will really blame him. We'll see!

    Daisy January 17, 2025 8:27 am
    When Nok didn't respond and kept saying "No, I don't want to, go away..." like to the ghost. Jaeshin: "Nok-ah. It's my fault. I... came too late. I should've found you sooner. Because of me... Nok, I..."Nok: "... Vae

    this gave me goosebumps. I didn't know that a new chapter dropped. also ive a question like did we ever get to know why han chaehui is doing this to nok? was it just because of her spite for nok's mother or something more? cause before this it never felt like she was trying to actually get him killed but more like make him afraid to keep him in "check". and the way she behaves with her own son does not give the vibe that she's doing it to make him the future crown prince although that would be an added benefit for her

    Vae January 17, 2025 6:30 pm
    this gave me goosebumps. I didn't know that a new chapter dropped. also ive a question like did we ever get to know why han chaehui is doing this to nok? was it just because of her spite for nok's mother or som... Daisy

    I was thinking about it, and thinking....
    and thought of smth like this:
    maybe it's the ghost residing in the queen wants Nok. Remember when, probably in ch 60, she talks with her brother about sending an assassin. She started screaming at him with double ghostly bubbles (it's sounds funnyXD) I mean the ghost was screaming through her. Or they've screamed together. Maybe the question is not how many of the queen's acts are just hers, but how many are the ghost's. The bitch is so vile I'm starting to doubt she's human (but ofc she still has human body).

    Vae January 18, 2025 11:21 am

    Ok, I was super curious what Jaeshin was thinking at the end of this chapter (in the square boxes). This is what I got:

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    The past cannot be undone, I thought just starting afresh will do.
    Just like so far
    I'm always by your side so nothing's gonna happen anymore.
    The cold/winter/northern gale which came to you because of me, will soon be just a wind brushing past,
    in a moment the spring will come to you...
    I wanted to tell you that.
    But the moment I saw your face, I've realized.
    You still
    are walking in the snow.

    T﹏T

    Daisy January 18, 2025 12:43 pm
    Ok, I was super curious what Jaeshin was thinking at the end of this chapter (in the square boxes). This is what I got:...The past cannot be undone, I thought just starting afresh will do.Just like so farI'm al... Vae

    stopped he's gonna super blame himself now idk if I can handle the angst coming

    Deedee January 18, 2025 5:09 pm
    Ok, I was super curious what Jaeshin was thinking at the end of this chapter (in the square boxes). This is what I got:...The past cannot be undone, I thought just starting afresh will do.Just like so farI'm al... Vae

    Oh my! It sounds like poetry! It really is beautiful. I like that Jaeshin is now fully aware of the truth and is willing to do everything to protect Nok. Fact is he would have done the same even if he wasnt responsible of the past events. Thanks for the translation dear Vae

    Vae January 20, 2025 10:26 am
    Oh my! It sounds like poetry! It really is beautiful. I like that Jaeshin is now fully aware of the truth and is willing to do everything to protect Nok. Fact is he would have done the same even if he wasnt res... Deedee

    I'm glad you liked it (=・ω・=) Looks like our small gang of raw readers are taking over this forum XD just for the hiatus ;)
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    There was one sentence which gave me pain there, trying to figure out the meaning. And I might have missed it previously, mixing tenses.
    Now I think it should be:
    The cold/winter/northern gale which came to you because of me, would've been just a passing wind, (and) the spring will come to you right away...

    Now it makes more sense bc previously I've been cracking my mind if Jaeshin knows a method for Nok to stop being haunted by ghosts or to stop seeing them? Or did he mean Chaehui's upcoming death? No, he just thought his presence and protecting Nok will solve everything and Nok will just heal by himself.

    MTL from Chinese ver:
    The cold wind that hurt you because of me just swept by quickly, The spring that belongs to you will come soon...

    Was it just me who thought the deed's done when Jaeshin started to care and protect Nok by all means? While he's surprising me by actually understanding Nok's feelings and being able to empathise with him <3 Even feeling helpless.

    I'm assuming the end of the story will be, when the spring comes T﹏T

    Daisy January 20, 2025 12:42 pm
    I'm glad you liked it (=・ω・=) Looks like our small gang of raw readers are taking over this forum XD just for the hiatus ;)...There was one sentence which gave me pain there, trying to figure out the mean... Vae

    okay imma just say the way you word things are so beautiful . you really have a way with them

    Deedee January 20, 2025 10:15 pm
    I'm glad you liked it (=・ω・=) Looks like our small gang of raw readers are taking over this forum XD just for the hiatus ;)...There was one sentence which gave me pain there, trying to figure out the mean... Vae

    Yes. I think it's just how you described it beautifully in a previous post of yours: Jeashin is actually the one winning a human heart in a literal sense. Not only he developed affection for Nok but also deep empathy and understanding. Well, it's still very much exclusive to Nok but I guess Jeashin is working on that. We shouldn't ask too much from him either lol For the spring part, I agree. It seems they'll have their happy ending at last :)))

    Vae January 20, 2025 11:43 pm
    okay imma just say the way you word things are so beautiful . you really have a way with them Daisy

    Omo, me? You're so sweet <3 <3 <3 I would've never said that I'm "good with words" ^^"

    Vae January 21, 2025 12:38 am
    Yes. I think it's just how you described it beautifully in a previous post of yours: Jeashin is actually the one winning a human heart in a literal sense. Not only he developed affection for Nok but also deep e... Deedee

    "We shouldn't ask too much from him either lol " - lololol XD
    But I think Jaeshin can feel some compassion at least to those ghosts, when he learns what had happened to them when they were humans. Maybe with Unhye it wasn't really the case, but the way he spoke with the starving ghost. And it looks to me a little like, when taeju (kid ghost - trivia: according to Korean mythology mostly boy who died from hunger or smallpox, if the kid was a girl they call it myeongdu or myeongdo) is disapearing reminiscing his last (alive) moments, Jaeshin looks at him kinda sad. Or I'm seeing things^^" And maybe there's a red light in his eyes bc he wants him to perish faster so Nok can calm downXD

    The seasons matched the weather in Korea lately so does that mean we are really REALLY close to the end?
    And I've just taken a closer look and... are WE also on a hiatus this week? ;____;

    aimrivale January 28, 2025 7:13 pm
    this gave me goosebumps. I didn't know that a new chapter dropped. also ive a question like did we ever get to know why han chaehui is doing this to nok? was it just because of her spite for nok's mother or som... Daisy

    I think she only wants nok body.Shes obsessed with the mother and son beauty.She also wants a new vessel,and nok is perfect bc he is soon to be king

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