I EFFInG called that shit… the stupid MC didn’t tell his best friend the truth kept him out of the loop and some crazy fight happens…. Major eye roll even your sister told you to make up with your best friend but you care more about being tied up and whatever else With your “master” ….
Also start off this story is about a virgin MC who wanted to save himself for love who has now turned into a guy who is ok with being FWB after having what is to me non consensual sex who went from a helpless romantic to a guy just diving right into S & M and wanting a master. To each his own I just have no respect for the MC or the ML. I really just want the best friend to have a happy ending and I don’t want him to end up with the MC at all.
ON ANOTHER NOTE if you read the raws can someone tell me who the other kid with black hair is it looks like the ML’s lover when he was younger and he looks like the MC so it looks like the MC is the substitute for this person I dunno someone tell me please
They're getting into bdsm?????
Welp, dropping this then.
I asked for someone to explain the raws because I am unsure
Nah was gonna drop it anyway cuz mc is naive as fck and I don't really like how he chose the seme over his bestfriend lol
If I didn’t have OCD and had to finish reading whatever I start reading I would be in the same boat as you but on another note the best friend really is way too good for the MC I don’t want them to get together at all ^_^
I feel ya. The bestfriend definitely deserves better
Since you are dropping it I’ll tell you the season 1 finale. The ML makes a move in the MC in an empty classroom …. The best friends hears from strangers noises and goes to investigate….. the best friend catches them in the middle of starting something and the best friends over protective paranoia comes out and the best friend thinks the MC is being forced so he starts to beat the shit the shit out of the ML. The MC starts crying and finally must have told him the truth because the best friend leaves and it’s just the MC with a beat up unconscious ML…….
And that’s why I hate this because the best friend should have been told the truth a long time ago instead of the MC acting like an immature douche bag.
If the best friend ever gets a happy ending I’ll let you know what chapter it starts on and what chapter it ends ^^
Thaaank you. I appreciate it. Hope he definitely gets his happy ending.
The friend never confessed??? Do u want him to go « hey sorry ill end our 20 years of friendship bcs i figured out u liked me and im actually exploring my sexual needs and have a bdsm partner!!! » yall delusional af
Exploring his sexual needs? You should reread the first few chapters the ML took advantage of the MC. Someone telling you they want to lose their V card to their lover is definitely NOT consent and the ML kept pushing
Hes a grown adult, i will not be justifying what happened at the beginning but mc continued to reach out to ml and have sex with him which IS exploring sexual needs
Real talk for a second so if you aren’t justifying the begin which is fine then what are your thoughts on adults being groomed? Because for the MC to go from losing his virginity to going straight into a master and slave relationship for your first ever relationship seems really off, especially since again that was never what he originally wanted
On another note I really hope that the author is not gonna cross the line and have the blonde hair guy try to gang bang the MC or some crap
BROTHA WHAT
The ML friend came over saw the note from the MC crumpled it up and threw it on the floor saying they always share everything and I hope the author isn’t gonna try and do something crazy
Is there another work that has his story?
Even if the sene doesn’t end up with the guy he will forever haunt his memories and he is the only one along with his sister to see the uke making that expression. Also the sene deserves better, if the uke cared he would stop hooking up with the sister he was playing games and continues to do so
I wish this went for another season and saw the swme get back on his feet
I know it’s not cheating but I’ve always found that disrespectful how quickly after a break up people move on. At least give it sometime before you start sleeping with someone
In all honesty the MC should have kept the entire jackpot and told the other guy to eff off but that’s me
I am aware that’s a personal problem
They just aren’t my cup of tea they are too far fetched
But the idea of wanting a single individual so bad you risk everything…. It’s just not that serious <_<
You know you love the red hair guy you know why you pushed yourself away from red hair guy. You told black hair guy you have feelings for someone which is obviously red hair guy SO AUTHUR CUT THE CRAP
the black hair guy was around for seconds you can’t over write all that history with a little bit of sex fuk outta here. Either make this a 3P story or cut the crap
Going off the story so far no way in hell the uke would turn down red hair guy it’s forcing a narrative that doesn’t make sense
He never said he liked Joohyuk what are you talking about. And what do you mean, he has pushed Joohyuk away each time Joohyuk has tried to be intimate with him. Eunoh pushing him away and refusing is very in character and is aligned with all previous scenes.
Even if he does like Joohyuk that is irrelevant. Being in love w someone doesn’t mean you automatically consent to sex. If you’re gonna defend Joohyuk at least properly read the manhwa
Did I defend the rape?
Also did you read the chapter carefully because when they were getting intimate all of a sudden the black hair guy pops in his head or did you miss that… hence my entire rant there is no way the new guy occupies his mind like that
You said the uke pushing joonghyuk away makes no sense. But it does make sense. Like I said, he’s literally done that the entire manhwa.
Dochan popped into his head because eunoh literally just talked to him? Atp they’re also closer and eunoh atleast sees him as a friend. Dochan wanted eunoh to text him when he was heading home, so it makes sense eunoh would think of him??
In your comment you said
“You told black hair guy you have feelings for someone which is obviously red hair guy SO AUTHUR CUT THE CRAP”
He did not do this so what are you talking about. If he did and I am misremembering pls tell me what chapter he says he likes red hair, thx. If im wrong I will accept that
Like I been saying, if the uke REALLY wanted him to stop he can fight back but he isn't, ppl forget that he's also a man too. I AM NOT defending rape, ofc what bro is doing is horrible, not saying it's right... im just pointing out the obvious.
Chapter 8
My mind is filled of images of us - red hair guy and the uke , and this is while the uke is masturbating - btw this is also after fooling around with black hair guy for the first time. Perfect time to not keeping thinking about the uke and red hair guy together but nope he continues and thinks of the two of them together and finishes his business
btW Chapter 9 MC says to Uke it’s pretty weird the first time meeting and the person confesses the love they have for them <—- just added that there for my enjoyment
Also in chapter 9 the Uke wants something to change because he feels guilty about the relationship he has with red hair guy and doesn’t want to disappoint red guys mom using the new guy to get away from the guy HE REALLY CARES ABOUT. He even tells black hair guy even if I don’t develop feelings for you
Chapter 16 while in the car with rd hair guy red hair guy says you don’t like either of us but the uke stays quiet….. continuing on
In the bed with red hair guy uke says I never hated you…
In uke thoughts he says you just have no idea how scared I am <—- So tell me considering all that how does it make sense that the black hair guy now occupied his mind
Also continuing on with chapter 18 while in bed together red hair guy knows why the uke keeps pushing him away is because of the red hair guy gets found out as gay th e uke will feel responsible for getting him and his mother kicked out of the family
SO AGAIN unless this is a 3P story I am not really believing this scenario of I love red hair guy but I need to get over him so black hair guy please make me love you crap….. not being with red hair guy doesn’t make him any less gay
Also chapter 20 3P dream of that became a reality it’s way happier ending for everyone involved
Also chapter 21 he says to black hair guy I was planning on using you —- SO YES considering he likes red hair guy for real the black hair guy randomly appearing in his head in that moment after a few interactions versus 2 years together with red hair guy and maybe more years ——- from a reality perspective it’s BS
Ty for this people keep forgetting that as well
“Pointing out the obvious”? Sometimes I get really scared with what I read here… Why are you blaming the victim and saying that if he wanted to he can fight back just because he’s a man?? Just because he’s a man that doesn’t make him automatically stronger than the other! Yes you can try to fight back in theory, but if you’re reading this story you’d know that’s not the case for Eunho. Just so you know, out of every two people there is always one who is stronger. The red head is really agressive when he wants to and guilt trips Eunho in a way. Don’t forget all Eunho went through with him before (intimidation, blackmail, etc.)! It’s not as simple as a “he can fight back if he doesn’t want this”. I do hope that guy stops (the damage is already done tho), because Eunho doesn’t deserve this.
Okay I'm not sure if you're talking specifically about this scene or previous ones. But I do not like this argument because he HAS fought back before. There's also the fact the earlier parts of their relationship, joohyuk used his position (emotional and financial) to coerce eunoh. So saying he should have fought back there doesn't make sense.
TLDR: youre wrong, and he has fought against him. read what the other person (kari) replied to you
First I think a lot of people do not understand that eunoh is motivated by guilt, and catastrophizes situations, which further increases his guilt. We see this specifically in chapter 27, where he recalls the conversation with joohyuk in chapter 20-21. Eunoh remembers himself as being more inconsiderate ("never said said these words") and joohyuk's reactions were "dramatized by his[eunoh's] guilt".
Eunoh feels responsible for joohyuk's wellbeing (even when it is NOT his fault) is present throughout the story. This also applies to Miss Baek. Since he feels indebted to her. Understanding this is essential when seeing how eunoh interacts with joohhyuk.
In chapter 8 in the shower, eunoh pushed joohyuk off him and fought back. He even made a mark on his face, which is why joohyuk was wearing a band aid. (also I think chapter 8 is a great glimpse at the fact that joohyuk sees himself as a victim in their relationship. It also is nice parallels with this chapter, and shows that he hasn't really changed since then. And no this chapter doesn't 'prove' that eunoh is in love with joohyuk (though you can interpret it that way if you want, I guess) )
If you're talking about ch 16-18 in the car, that is a separate issue. If you think that eunoh should have 'fought back' in that scene in order to minimize it's significance, I strongly disagree.
In chapter 16, he did fight back and began to push joohyuk away/hit him. But he stopped, and the reason WHY he stopped makes sense. When eunoh pushed him away, joohyuk says "...are you trying to leave another scratch?", reminding eunoh of chapter 8. After this eunoh momentarily stops fighting back. Initially during the car scene, eunoh tells joohyuk to stop multiple times.
Do you want him to punch joohyuk in the face? Eunoh doesn’t want to injure joohyuk again.
Because of their history together he does care about him and his wellbeing. He wants joohyuk and miss baek to maintain their position within the baek family. Joohyuk even still has a mark on his face form the last time eunoh defended himself, actively reminding eunoh that he DID physically hurt joohyuk.
Eunoh doesn't want to hurt joohyuk. But he should not have to attack joohyuk to get him stop.
This scene in chapter 31 isn't finished, so we don’t' know what will happen next. But he does push joohyuk off. Joohyuk is also a man, is it really impossible that he's physically stronger than eunoh? Even if eunoh is stronger, there are the elements I mentioned earlier that prevent him from wanting to hurt joohyuk. Even if eunoh doesn't 'fight back' more, that doesn’t mean he has consented.
Yes exactly, thank you
Okay after this I better understand your perspective. However, I still disagree. I also was pro-3P ending (and have even left comments about this), but after this chapter I do not feel the same. I do not see how Joohyuk can salvage his relationship with Eunoh. He 'apologized' for how he has mistreated eunoh. But once eunoh rejects him, he does the same exact thing and forces himself on eunoh. If the author wanted him to be endgame with eunoh, they should not have done that. They should have just had joohyuk let eunoh leave in peace.
Chapter 8: he had just been with joohyuk in the shower, he has known joohyuk for years. They were best friends and has had a coerced sexual relationship with him for all of college (story isn't clear how long they've been at university). Dochan is essentially a stranger at this point. Eunoh definitely has complicated feelings for joohyuk, but this scene doesn't prove that he has romantic feelings for joohyuk. If you interpret it that way then fine, but sexual and romantic attraction are different thing. It makes sense eunoh isn't thinking of some guy he briefly met two times after such an intense, emotional moment.
Chapter 9 : I don't see how this is relevant? And yes, dochan immediately latching onto eunoh and having strong feelings can definitely be interpreted as strange. Doesn't change the fact he's been a kind, considerate person throughout the manhwa. If you're trying to imply dochan doesn't have serious feelings for eunoh, then fine?? Again, he is still a nice person and has consistently treated eunoh with respect.
Chapter 9: yes, and? I know he said that to dochan. What is your point. Just because eunoh initially didn’t have feelings for him doesn’t mean he’ll never have feelings for him
Chapter 16: yes he stays quiet. You can interpret silence = "I love you joohyuk" if you want. At the very least, it shows that eunoh is still conflicted about his feelings. Again, this is not explicit confirmation he has romantic feelings for joohyuk.
Chapter 18 (this is the bed chapter): yes because not hating someone means you have romantic feelings for them /s. Eunoh is allowed to have complicated feelings for someone he has known for several years, who helped him pursue his career in art, and used to be best friends with. you can interpret this as him having romantic feelings if you want. It’s not enough to convince me
eunoh having a history with joohyuk does not become "pointless" if joohyuk isn't endgame. Their past together is essential to understanding eunoh's character. We also have 31 chapters of these characters interacting. We also dont know the ending yet since this manhwa is not finished
It’s not only about Joohyuk being gay. There’s also the fact eunoh doesn’t want to “betray” ms baek
Chapter 21: this is eunoh essentially repeating the conversation he had with docahn back in chapter 9.
You can interpret eunohs' feelings for joohyuk has romantic if you want. I disagree. I think in the past when they were in highschool he potentially had a crush on joohyuk but wasn't completely aware of his own feelings (very common with queer ppl). However after Joohyuk began sexually assaulting him and became a "son of a bitch", that changed how eunoh felt about him.
I am not saying that dochan is more important to eunoh than joohyuk is. In chapter 30, eunoh has a sweet moment with dochan that reminds him of how lovers act. Then he goes to joohyuk. Then in chapter 31, eunoh thinks of dochan. Why is this not reasonable? Dochan literally told eunoh to tell him when he was leaving. Eunoh remembering that is him being a somewhat considerate person. When he thinks of is dochan saying "I'll be waiting eun-oh." He has also been spending more time with dochan and sees him (at least) as a friend
If anything, it's posisble this chapter (31) is a turning point in eunohs relaitonsip with dochan. We don't know for sure because again, this specific scene isn't even complete yet.
I don't know where you're seeing victim blaming. Please point that out to me because I'm clearly not blaming him. I'm just saying that Eunho obviously has feelings for him despite the blackmail, not saying that's healthy or good for him. I'm just saying that's apparent story.... also, why are we speaking as if this is a real person and not fictional? I'm just stating my opinion. so I'm not understanding why I'm getting paragraphs written to me for something that was so small. But i appreciate ur opinion as well, just defending mine
And why the omega didn’t terminate the baby makes even less sense. You know damn well every time the beta sees that child he’s gonna realize it’s the child of his ex with his father.
In my head the new ending the alpha gets with this new guys becomes a real man and matured and the omega aborts the baby and tries to fix his relationship with his son and do better in his career. That’s perfection right there.
Also am I the only one that noticed chemistry between the red hair guy and the alpha? Also again I am annoyed that a simple convo with someone new brings back not about the omegas personality or anything about him as a teacher AGAIN ITS ALL ABOUT PHYSICAL STUFF. He doesn’t love th e professor it’s just his dick loved the sex
Why and How did the narrative become that she wants the ML as her end game. She didn’t rush to get the ML out of prison and then she starts sleeping with the chief of police and becomes his wife…. If you wanted the ML you could have had him a long time ago…. Your ex husband paid off your debt and with your husband dead you are a free women…. She decided she wanted power and threw the ML to the wolves so where the eff does this lusting and desire for the ML come from you literally married another guy after you had the ML kill your now dead ex husband and you didn’t talk about any ways to get the ML out of prison even the guy who committed the first murder said that the madame was playing the ML…. Is this women smelling toast?
Yup, it kind of does not make sense that she says this was all for Seongrok when in previous seasons she didn't care about him and even others could notice she was just using him to get to the top without dirty her hands.
I disagree. I think we were seeing everything from seongrok pov and as far as he was concerned she didn’t give af anymore but we never got words from her mouth in previous seasons. Last season she even imagined them with a baby so I’d say she definitely wanted them together but she is selfish so she came first before rok. I guess now she’s reflecting
Hmm? nooo she’s been shown wanting to have him as endgame, she’s the definition of wanting to have her cake and eat it too. she was even dreaming about having a baby with him in s2, she just always thought Seongrok would be always be at her beck and call and be her loyal lapdog as she gains for power, she definitely wants him even more now that she lost out to jeoh
She started wanting him and realized she wanted a future with him after she couldnt have him anymore aka when he betrayed her and became loyal to our mc. Basically she wants what she cant have making him more enticing to her than before
Even if she does get him back though she still has her now new husband so like how is she gonna have him as end game? She’s gonna have him kill her new husband 0.0?
Idfk i dont think she planned to want him pike that and now just deals w it