Kuroitenshi17 December 3, 2023 2:50 am

I don’t think this is reincarnation because that doesn’t exactly make sense- this is more along the lines of a Do OVER - like a second chance at the same exact life. I make this statement because if it’s reincarnation- how exactly is he reincarnated into the exact same family with the exact same gun? It’s a Do over story very similar to Again except again involves going back in time 3 years. It’s not reincarnation because it’s more of a Do over situation because the ML basically knows what’s gonna happen before it happens.

IN THE FIRST LIFE.
Also I think people are mistaken the reason why the MC killed himself the first time. The MC is under the impression that the ML send the MC to his brother in law to be raped. After that incident the ML gets mad and rapes the MC and apparently marks him as his omega. It turns out that the MC gets pregnant and it’s not sure whether the child is the ML or the ML’s brother in law. We find out that the incident with the brother in law was a very bad weird coincidence of both of them being at the same place at the wrong time. Regardless apparently the ML kills his brother for touching the MC. So the MC believes that the ML basically offered him up like a peace of meat and he doesn’t know who the father of the baby is and is just so depressed about having an awful life in general he kills himself. It turns out that the baby was actually the MC and the ML.

I could be wrong but this is me reading all the spoilers and trying to make sense of it. So the premise of the story is the ML gets a chance to treat the MC with respect and TLC so the MC doesn’t off himself again in this second chance of the same life.

    dokumoku December 3, 2023 2:56 am

    this makes more sense to me like the reincarnation thing.

    RedNamy December 3, 2023 10:46 am

    yes according to novel it's not reincarnation it's travel back time and yes the baby's father is really the ML ..and the reason for the gun to be sealed and removed bullets cause the ML doesn't want the MC use it again.

    Kuroitenshi17 December 3, 2023 7:11 pm

    Thank you for clarifying lol people were confusing me and I figured that’s what they meant l!

    HADIFER December 4, 2023 4:00 am

    It’s regression, not reincarnation

Kuroitenshi17 December 2, 2023 12:58 am

So this is another miscommunication/ making assumptions bullshit trope so let’s have some horrible revenge then realize the other person wasn’t responsible and then let’s make up and love happily ever after—

JUST NO- so the black hair guys was an alpha in an orphanage and the blonde guy was thought to be an omega and gets sold by the orphanage as a child prostitute. The black hair guys tells the kid to run away to x location and I will come get you- something happened and apparently the black hair guy didn’t show up and the blonde kid gets molested in public because people think he’s an omega- WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUK- like not only the child prostitute thing but strangers see omegas in public as a given right to tough and rape them - wtf is the author thinking it’s extremely uncomfortable

So to better explain the blonde guy assumed wrong and is getting revenge on the black hair alpha by turning him into an OMEGA- AGAIN WTF- whatever happened to you is literally not because of the black haired alpha and under no circumstances does that give you the personal right to turn someone into an omega and rape them <_<. Also the way the author portray omegas is uncomfortable- aside from omegas can be raped left and right we have to watch the newly alpha turned omega MC get raped several times and the black haired guy literally can’t fight back at all. I’ve read numerous Omegaverse stories and this one has made me the most uncomfortable with the rape.

Kuroitenshi17 December 1, 2023 7:53 pm

The perfect ending would be is after the alpha and omega have a child together……… CHOI SIMOON the legit hot alpha Swoops in with the beta son and come backs to the omega to fix everything and breaks up the alpha and omega to fix his original family unit. Choi Simoon comes in, swoops the omega off his feet and the omega is easily suede because Choi Simoon is a real man ( when I say real man I mean he just isn’t anything like the other alpha) and a more responsible adult. Also we see the beta is in a healthy relationship with the other beta.

That ending isn’t good enough though I need to see chapters of the cheating alphas major mental break down ^_^. Like I want to see a chapter where the alpha has a legit realization hey I’m a dumbass and I don’t understand how adult relationships work etc etc ^_^. That would just be amazeballs!

    XMonarchX December 2, 2023 7:33 am

    well in the end he finds out the professors son is actually the beta he is dating lol and shit just gets more complicated after that.

    Kuroitenshi17 December 3, 2023 3:08 am
    well in the end he finds out the professors son is actually the beta he is dating lol and shit just gets more complicated after that. XMonarchX

    I know the real ending I just would prefer this ending a thousand times more because you never abandon your child for a lover

Kuroitenshi17 December 1, 2023 7:30 pm

Upvote if you prefer the beta and his friend, over the alpha and omega couple

    Idontgiveafuck December 2, 2023 4:52 am

    so there are really someone who prefer those trashes? whattashame

    cccc December 2, 2023 7:45 pm

    Those people who disliked need to get some taste lol

    Kuroitenshi17 December 3, 2023 3:04 am

    My dislike for the alpha and omega couple just stems from the fact they are like a forced story that is not believable. We found out there is a big age gap and I have a hard time believing that a stupid immature 20 year old who thinks he’s in love with the professor simply because of the sex it’s just a joke and I don’t believe it- also that the dad just doesn’t care his beta son disappears and doesn’t try to reconcile-

    I could possibly be ok with it if the Omega goes to his beta son and like BEGs for permission to allow him to date his ex boyfriend—- actually I can’t even stomach that because a good parent would always choose their current existing child over a lover. Also I looked online and this has like 55 chapters in total or something to that effect and I just really need for the manhua artist to move past showing us constantly that the alpha doesn’t feel guilty and that the beta still hasn’t found out the entire truth

Kuroitenshi17 December 1, 2023 3:22 pm

What a surprise even though he isn’t ever suppose to remember what happens when under hypnotism MAGICALLY HE CAN REMEMBER, and note again the title is PLACEBO ^_^ It’s so much easier for the older brother to blame hypnotism then admit his real feelings for his younger brother.

    RYUU December 1, 2023 3:27 pm

    I know right wkwk

    Kuroitenshi17 December 1, 2023 3:49 pm

    If anyone wants to disagree and argue CHAPTER 2 and I quote the Little brother says “ I just tried it out for fun in the hope I’d get him to shut up” also a little further more reading and the little brother says “ THE REAL WOO-YEON NEVER REMEMBERS WHAT HAPPENS HERE”

    Most recent chapter somehow the older brother states “I remember everything” - also notice the little brother didn’t make this a command and “Play Time was Over” already so how exactly did the older brother remember everything??

    Also if somehow I end up being wrong about this I would be ONLY slightly be disappointed because this author has the ability to make one Hell of a crazy ride mind fuck manhua that we haven’t seen before

    RYUU December 1, 2023 3:56 pm
    If anyone wants to disagree and argue CHAPTER 2 and I quote the Little brother says “ I just tried it out for fun in the hope I’d get him to shut up” also a little further more reading and the little br... Kuroitenshi17

    That's what I was thinking too from the reading the old chapters.

    Agreed with your last comment if it isn't then we are ones having placebo effect with the author lol.

Kuroitenshi17 November 30, 2023 3:05 am

I’m commenting on the overall manhua and how much I enjoyed the story. From a psych perspective the author did some homework on antisocial personality disorder. It’s hard to completely dislike the ML for myself because I understand that people with ASPD are very complex individuals ( not everyone with ASPD become serial killers, rapists etc etc) Also I fell in love with this manhua before I even knew this scene was going to happen and I enjoy the pace of this manhua immensely! This didn’t have a sex scene for Long Time there was such a build up to this scene and we did have LOTS of character development ( quite ALOT compared to a lot of other manhuas).

Also spoilers I started to read the novel because I got so into this manhua a while ago. The ML and the MC do get more intimate - if you take a step back and remember the ML has ASPD his actions for S3 are completely significant because InSEOB starts to make him feel certain emotions. I’m not going to give up major spoilers but hang in there you may not have liked this last scene but it does get better ^_^

Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 7:41 pm

As I said last week I will never believe that this manhua has a happy ending. I know what the ending is but to me that doesn’t mean happily ever after.

Regardless the smut doesn’t do it for me. I just want the main story to end asap and hopefully we get Beta happy ending side stories.

I found this chapter annoying because as I have commented on the alpha and omega relationship previously, it has no substance besides good sex which is subjective because the older professor is the only omega the alpha has had sex with…… that being said seeing the alphas internal monologue just infuriates me because he was literally motivated to take a taxi and rush to the hotel for a sex partner it’s just really not that effing serious and everyone else around the alpha must be ugly as fuck GOD just thinking about this just makes me even more mad like literally the requirement for the alpha is just an omega who leaks- which either a male or female omega would do the job- every single Omegaverse manhua or manga I’ve read, the omega is always “responsive in bed” 0.0 I just can’t get behind the alpha and omega letting their instinct make all their important life decisions — WHICH is also why I will never believe the alpha and the omega really have a happy ending <_<

    mimiko November 24, 2023 10:51 pm

    They will develop feelings and have a happy ending even if you hate to see it. And you won’t get beta side stories he disappears from the main story

    Ochako November 24, 2023 11:26 pm

    I would disagree with that he only needs a male/female omega. He didn't really react or got seduced by omega pheromones before the prof came along. Even now the junior omega girl was leaking pheromone everywhere all the time she was with him at that lunch date but he wasn't attracted to her at all or react to her. He rather found it annoying and repulsive. The author is either trying to push fated mates or that he is only into one omega. Anyways from what I heard the beta's story is not into this one. They don't even start dating until the end it seems.

    Lin November 25, 2023 8:27 am

    Maybe they're fated mates. But cheater is cheater, I imagine the alpha will cheat again, maybe with a beta, not because of pheromone but sexual attraction.

    Kuroitenshi17 November 25, 2023 3:12 pm

    Everywhere I read never stated they are dated mates which is why I think the Alpha will cheat again In the future. Also the comment about the omega female- she wasn’t in heat though so we don’t really know how he would react to a female omega in heat. Or even other male omegas in heat.

    Lin November 25, 2023 3:49 pm
    Everywhere I read never stated they are dated mates which is why I think the Alpha will cheat again In the future. Also the comment about the omega female- she wasn’t in heat though so we don’t really know ... Kuroitenshi17

    I don't believe cheater, esp smb like the Alpha, he can easily cheat on his partner of 3 or so years and showing little to no desire to redeem or repair the relationship.

Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 7:12 pm

Personally I just dont care about them being step brothers and fucking because they aren’t blood related. What I do have a problem with is so many mangas and manhuas use misinterpreting a characters actions, lack of communication, or miscommunication being the entire reason why characters are unhappy/ it’s also the reason why it takes forever to reach a somewhat happy ending.

The older brother and younger brother should have communicated better as children- Also the parents aren’t completely innocent because they should have seen that their children weren’t getting along.

So basically years of the older brother and younger brother not communicating properly leads us to our current story of the douche bag older brother and the creepy obsessive younger brother <_<.

If my theory about why this story is called placebo is an earlier post is correct I can’t exactly see how this will reach a happy ending. Well that’s not completely true, it will just involve some rude awakenings, and both characters having to seriously open up to each other emotional <_< I just don’t know

Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 7:05 pm

Too many people misinterpreted my last post so I’m just going to simplify it and explain it in better detail.


I have a theory that the author gave this the title “placebo” because at some point the author is going to reveal that the older brother was never really hypnotized and just played along. People keep misinterpreting what I’m saying I’m not making a judgement call on the ethics of the so called older brother being in an altered mental state and engaging in sexual relations- I’m saying the whole scenario of being able to hypnotize someone that hates you to sleep with you is complete fiction not possible in the real world. ( FOR CLARIFICATION in the real world CRIMINAL court cases that involve sexual misconduct with hypnotism are between Doctors and their patients which all of those cases involve some level
Of trust between doctor and patient and all
Of this happening over a relatively lengthy amount of time NEVER EVER a case where on the first day a doctor was able to immediately hypnotize his patient and engage in sexual activity)

WHAT I AM QUESTIONING IS whether the author gave their work the title of “PLACEBO” because in the end we are going to find out the younger brother never really hypnotized the older brother, the older brother just played along because it’s an easier pill to swallow when you can blame your actions on something else instead of admitting your deepest and darkest desires —— aka it’s easier for the Older brother to blame that he was hypnotized by his younger brother than to that admit out loud his true feelings about his step
Brother he would never want to admit.

You are free to agree or disagree, what Are your thoughts? I also remembered this author has a 3 chapter manhua with the same title BUT that particular manhua already showed us the Hollywood hypnotism trope and I seriously hope this isn’t just the same story using the Hollywood hypnotism trope and just making more chapters…………

    son of thors November 19, 2023 7:21 pm

    Oh? I actually find this interesting. Although a bit far fetched but who knows. Maybe both of the characters are just really that far gone

    †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈). November 20, 2023 5:08 am

    Then then what about mother and father? Dod they play along too?

    son of thors November 20, 2023 5:18 am
    Then then what about mother and father? Dod they play along too? †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈).

    This is an alternative universe from the side story from before. So in this story, none of that happened. It's on it's own

    †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈). November 20, 2023 7:06 am
    This is an alternative universe from the side story from before. So in this story, none of that happened. It's on it's own son of thors

    Ohh that good to know thank you for tellin me (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ coz that would be fuk up if that really happen.

    una November 20, 2023 11:23 pm

    oh my god i never even thought abt that....

    son of thors November 21, 2023 1:46 am
    Ohh that good to know thank you for tellin me (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ coz that would be fuk up if that really happen. †ʜAᴋAɱ (눈‿눈).

    Same that side story was so fucked up

    AWinterWonderLand November 22, 2023 5:25 pm
    Same that side story was so fucked up son of thors

    That wasn't a side. It was a short story which this one is based off of....

    AWinterWonderLand November 22, 2023 5:26 pm

    Wow .... hatred turned into super suppressed subconscious desires?!?

    son of thors November 22, 2023 6:47 pm
    That wasn't a side. It was a short story which this one is based off of.... AWinterWonderLand

    Yeah basically. I just don't know what else to call it besides an AU

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 6:06 pm

    I hope it’s an alternate universe because the thought of the younger son hypnotizing his father- when his father is the original owner of the hypnotizing book is just stretching things a little too much for my liking. That’s just taking this story even further away from reality

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 6:27 pm
    Wow .... hatred turned into super suppressed subconscious desires?!? AWinterWonderLand

    I am so happy I see you commenting and that you understand what a placebo is as well as the limits of what can be done with hypnotism!!!!!

    AWinterWonderLand November 24, 2023 6:28 pm
    I hope it’s an alternate universe because the thought of the younger son hypnotizing his father- when his father is the original owner of the hypnotizing book is just stretching things a little too much for m... Kuroitenshi17

    What's furthest from reality is that hypnosis even works in the first place. Hypnosis only works w participant's willingness to be hypnotized. That is, it is a consensual act that is done w/ their knowledge. Nobody just randomly gets hypnotized.

    AWinterWonderLand November 24, 2023 6:31 pm
    I am so happy I see you commenting and that you understand what a placebo is as well as the limits of what can be done with hypnotism!!!!! Kuroitenshi17

    Oh thank you!

    How funny!!! I literally JUST commented on your comment?!! About the thing you've just complimented me on. Hahaha well, thank you. I'm glad you're glad I know what I'm talking about. Hahaha.

    Well, I'm glad we both know what placebos and hypnosis is all about! It takes a lot of work to explain it to the lay person.

    Kuroitenshi17 November 24, 2023 6:43 pm
    Oh thank you! How funny!!! I literally JUST commented on your comment?!! About the thing you've just complimented me on. Hahaha well, thank you. I'm glad you're glad I know what I'm talking about. Hahaha.Well, ... AWinterWonderLand

    You have no idea my original post, people were Making completely absurd assumptions. Along the lines of saying I was ok “with the older brother being raped and that he wasn’t able to give proper consent” when all I was saying was unless this is fictional hypnosis, the younger brother isn’t actually being raped. As well as someone painfully trying to use examples of people being scammed out of their money is proof that fictional Hollywood hypnosis exists <_<

    AWinterWonderLand November 25, 2023 4:15 am
    You have no idea my original post, people were Making completely absurd assumptions. Along the lines of saying I was ok “with the older brother being raped and that he wasn’t able to give proper consent” ... Kuroitenshi17

    But Hollywood is fiction. I'm sorry. What?!?
    Yeah, I saw that post and half the time I'm tired when reading or writing responses so meh. That explanation doesn't make sense at all. Ppl get scammed because they believe in the lie, nothing to do w/ hypnosis....smh. well, hypnosis works if a person believes in it enough to be hypnotized, so it's similar, but they're not making the decision base on hypnosis. It's the brain's inability to sort out what's real/logical/probable so they buy into the lie. People who are older who can't make correct assessment or people who are gullible. I guess you can make an argument for both as a mind game, but it's not hypnosis.

Kuroitenshi17 November 19, 2023 6:21 pm

Chowon has commented on kyungsoo having a big penis for a Beta - so why couldn’t kyungsoo and Chowon have a baby together. Dojin the ex husband has developed alpha perfume sure it’s not as strong BUT it should have some sort of effect during Chowon’s heat to give some aide. Why did Chowon have to use a random alpha sperm donor to get pregnant? - I could understand if kyungsoo was shooting blanks but the whole premise that just because he’s a beta some how his genetic material aka sperm won’t work- if the author wants to make some stretches I’m down BUT make it make sense. I’ve read other Omegaverse manga and they explain that alphas have like bigger genitals but if Bin is already packing and Chowon a dominant omega we saw that Chiwon was visible impressed with kyungsoo’s meat stick - so what was the issue? Also I was feeling extremely bad for kyungsoo that the author decided to create that image that Bin is completely useless during chowon’s heat.

Heesoo and Dojin side story- At time where right now scientist in Japan has been successful with two male mice have been able to produce offspring ( with the assistance of a surrogate) why force this couples conflict about offspring? The author already showed the readers an image of Heesoo’s and Masters child why not give the readers what they want. Creating a random conflict and have them fight about a child when you know your readers want to see Masters and Heesoo baby since you already teased us with it like come on 0.0. If Heesoo and Master are suppose to represent gay men- like instead of adoption they totally have the opportunity of implanting a fertilized egg with Heesoo’s DNA and a fertilized egg with Masters DNA and have twins using A surrogate- yes the twins have different fathers but at the least the mother will ensure that the twins are at least half brothers- the forcing adoption situation I only hate it because it was so vague we don’t even get to see what the child looks like- it was just rushed and made me feel unsettled.

In a fictional world where an omega male is able to bear children and have a womb- for some reason the idea of using science to help Heesoo and Dojin make a baby is Preposterous

If the author wants to give us some realism considering this is a manhua made in Korea if Heesoo and Dojin represent a gay couple ……. Gay couples can not adopt children in Korea, the gay couple would have to leave Korea for a period of time and adopt from another country <_<

Maybe it’s just me but it feels like the author just wants the main couple to have a happy ending and the other two couples have to have random conflicts just because?

    .(^^) November 25, 2023 1:35 pm

    betas can't impregnate omegas in this omegaverse only alphas can, also the perfume that dojun made was mostly for the pheromones its doesnt change their basic dna of a beta or an omega.

    .(^^) November 25, 2023 1:38 pm
    betas can't impregnate omegas in this omegaverse only alphas can, also the perfume that dojun made was mostly for the pheromones its doesnt change their basic dna of a beta or an omega. .(^^)

    males omegas are males they dont have a womb like male omegas do thats why they adopted .

    a male alpha and a male beta cant have kids
    a male beta and a male omega cant have kids

    Kuroitenshi17 November 25, 2023 3:15 pm
    males omegas are males they dont have a womb like male omegas do thats why they adopted .a male alpha and a male beta cant have kids a male beta and a male omega cant have kids .(^^)

    I understand what you are saying but it’s not like an absolute. Kyungsoo and Chowon kept trying to have a baby- if they knew betas can’t impregnate omegas why did they try so much? Basically I’m asking wtf was wrong in that situation because the author didn’t give us anything really. I know male betas can’t get pregnant- I was saying in terms of science in this fictional world the author should have found so magical way to make it happen. Like take beta stem cells and stimulate it to become eggs cells

    gRaSsTaStEsGoOd December 1, 2023 1:08 pm
    males omegas are males they dont have a womb like male omegas do thats why they adopted .a male alpha and a male beta cant have kids a male beta and a male omega cant have kids .(^^)

    why can't a male beta and a male omega have kids? male betas only lack pheromones but their nethers should be working just fine, no?

    .(^^) December 1, 2023 1:48 pm
    why can't a male beta and a male omega have kids? male betas only lack pheromones but their nethers should be working just fine, no? gRaSsTaStEsGoOd

    each managa makes their story different
    so yeah dunno about that.

    Kuroitenshi17 December 1, 2023 2:22 pm
    why can't a male beta and a male omega have kids? male betas only lack pheromones but their nethers should be working just fine, no? gRaSsTaStEsGoOd

    That’s what I was commenting on I don’t know why kyungsoo and chowon couldn’t make a baby and she had to use an alpha sperm donor it made me upset

    gRaSsTaStEsGoOd December 1, 2023 4:04 pm
    each managa makes their story different so yeah dunno about that. .(^^)

    ah right... i just assumed the base rule was the same everywhere bc most omegaverse mangas (the japanese ones i mean) have the same introductory page (save for the additional details that the mangaka adds)

    gRaSsTaStEsGoOd December 1, 2023 4:06 pm
    That’s what I was commenting on I don’t know why kyungsoo and chowon couldn’t make a baby and she had to use an alpha sperm donor it made me upset Kuroitenshi17

    i'm just gonna consider kyungsoo's situation to be similar to that of recessive alphas for the sake of understanding ╮(" ̄▽ ̄)╭

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